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cacatoto7 08-23-2009 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by 510z (Post 163726)
The paint on my monteray blue was sprayed by jesus himself.
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ougirlkel 08-23-2009 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Vectorsumio (Post 163625)
Well, I haven't seen the defects you are talking about. My car was a showroom car. Never out on the lot and it has been garaged since purchased. To me, it almost sounds like a paint defect from using a very aggressive acidic wash? I've not seen another Z in this color yet so I have no other point of reference.

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/c...1/RQuarter.jpg

Interested in this post though... Sure hope "lunar landscape" doesn't show up in my future.
No Joke HUH? Pretty car!!!!

IDZRVIT 08-23-2009 12:07 PM
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So after a long process of trying to find my exact same car...I got a new one. I picked it up last week...and it has the same purple spots (not as many, but still...).
I can't believe that you would take delivery of a second car with the same defect. Surely you must have looked over the second car to see if it had the same defect. Care to explain that one?

I also don't understand why people complain about orange peel paint and but then take delivery of the vehicle. Orange peel is sooo obvious to see. Yet peeps take delivery and then complain after the fact. Don't you paint complainers do a pre-delivery inspection before you hand over your cheque?

ougirlkel 08-23-2009 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by IDZRVIT (Post 164919)
I can't believe that you would take delivery of a second car with the same defect. Surely you must have looked over the second car to see if it had the same defect. Care to explain that one?

I also don't understand why people complain about orange peel paint and but then take delivery of the vehicle. Orange peel is sooo obvious to see. Yet peeps take delivery and then complain after the fact. Don't you paint complainers do a pre-delivery inspection before you hand over your cheque?
I actually haven't accepted and signed anything on this second car. So technically, the purchase agreement I have is still on the first car that has been sitting in the back of their lot for over a month. That's why I want to ensure I get everything on this second car taken care of prior to me changing over the loan specs. So, there's the explanation....

I don't have any problem with orange peel on either car!

Benibiker 08-23-2009 07:00 PM
Red is a bad color on any car, the paint just doesn't stand up to the elements. Friend of mine had a 2003 Z and the red paint had come off the top of the mirrors. I had a 1999 red Mustang and the roof slowly became spotted over the years. Also had a red Mazda that had paint coming off the roof, hood and trunk. I waxed those cars like crazy, just didn't help. Just get another color...

WShade 08-23-2009 07:10 PM
You cant blame the color for those issues. More than likely those issues came from location, climate and age. Although, you do have to maintain red almost as much as you do black. Don't buy red or black if you are not meticulous and familiar with proper auto detailing.

Vectorsumio 08-24-2009 11:13 AM
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You cant blame the color for those issues. More than likely those issues came from location, climate and age. Although, you do have to maintain red almost as much as you do black. Don't buy red or black if you are not meticulous and familiar with proper auto detailing.
And you can take that statement to the bank!!! Well Said!

Blown32 08-24-2009 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by WShade (Post 165483)
You cant blame the color for those issues. More than likely those issues came from location, climate and age. Although, you do have to maintain red almost as much as you do black. Don't buy red or black if you are not meticulous and familiar with proper auto detailing.
For your information being meticulous and familiar with PROPER DETAILING has nothing to do with DEFECTIVE PAINT AND THE PAINTING PROCESS!So I don't know where you are coming from as maybe you don't also!
The point everyone is trying to make that has defects in the paint jobs and paint on the new Z is garbage.So your statement has nothing to do with that issue.
I for one know all about detailng and meticulous PROPER CAR CARE.I have had many black cars and have NEVER had such problems with paint as the new Z!
As for the poster that said "get used to it"! Well his statement pretty much speaks for it self about his character!
We are on here to discuss our likes and dislikes and problems we may be having related to the paint on our new Z.Please understand the frustration we who are having these problems feel after buying a new car.It doesn't matter if it cost $20,$30 or $40,000 dollars.It is a new vehicle and Nissan didn't just start making cars yesterday!Price on a NEW car shouldn't matter as far as quality of the paint job!

WShade 08-24-2009 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Blown32 (Post 166336)
For your information being meticulous and familiar with PROPER DETAILING has nothing to do with DEFECTIVE PAINT AND THE PAINTING PROCESS!So I don't know where you are coming from as maybe you don't also!
The point everyone is trying to make that has defects in the paint jobs and paint on the new Z is garbage.So your statement has nothing to do with that issue.
I for one know all about detailng and meticulous PROPER CAR CARE.I have had many black cars and have NEVER had such problems with paint as the new Z!
As for the poster that said "get used to it"! Well his statement pretty much speaks for it self about his character!
We are on here to discuss our likes and dislikes and problems we may be having related to the paint on our new Z.Please understand the frustration we who are having these problems feel after buying a new car.It doesn't matter if it cost $20,$30 or $40,000 dollars.It is a new vehicle and Nissan didn't just start making cars yesterday!Price on a NEW car shouldn't matter as far as quality of the paint job!
You need to calm down. I was responding to this statement:
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Originally Posted by Benibiker (Post 165461)
Red is a bad color on any car, the paint just doesn't stand up to the elements. Friend of mine had a 2003 Z and the red paint had come off the top of the mirrors. I had a 1999 red Mustang and the roof slowly became spotted over the years. Also had a red Mazda that had paint coming off the roof, hood and trunk. I waxed those cars like crazy, just didn't help. Just get another color...
Maybe you need to read the entire dialog prior to flying off the handle. I hope you have a blessed day. :tiphat:

Blown32 08-25-2009 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by WShade (Post 166635)
You need to calm down. I was responding to this statement:


Maybe you need to read the entire dialog prior to flying off the handle. I hope you have a blessed day. :tiphat:
Thanks for the blessing!
As for flying off the handle I'am a very calm man.Just say it as I see it!Have a nice day!

ougirlkel 08-25-2009 06:18 PM
:(So here's the latest...

I was supposed to meet with my Sales Manager from my Nissan Dealer along with the GM of that dealer...of course the GM flaked and my Sales Manager can't make any decisions for anything! So, he basically told me that "they have done everything" they can do for me. In other words, which he admitted, Nissan is perfectly willing to expect someone to pay full price for a brand new 370Z with paint defects. CRAP! If I were a new customer off of the street, I'm sure these paint defects would be used as some type of bargaining chip and I'd get a discount of some type off the car...same with hail damage, etc!

I basically told him where to go and that this was not an acceptable replacement for the first car, with the same paint defects, that Nissan stated they would not hold a warranty on that paint!!!!!!

He left the room for a while and came back to tell me that someone from Nissan Regional would be coming in tomorrow to look at the paint defects on this car. So...we'll see...

I pretty much think I'm getting screwed on this deal! Still don't have my car!!!

Oh, and I was going to try to get photos of the defects but they left the car so freak'n dirty there was no way to get any good photos...I tried...!!!!

BanningZ 08-25-2009 07:07 PM
Maybe the Z isn't for you. Have you looked at the G37's, or other cars of similar fortitude? It sounds like Nissan actually has gone above and beyond trying to help, but unless you can choose one from the factory, there is only so much the dealership can do after trying to correct the problem.

Good luck with the paint issue, I hope it all gets resolved to your satisfaction.

ougirlkel 08-25-2009 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by BanningZ (Post 169140)
Maybe the Z isn't for you. Have you looked at the G37's, or other cars of similar fortitude? It sounds like Nissan actually has gone above and beyond trying to help, but unless you can choose one from the factory, there is only so much the dealership can do after trying to correct the problem.

Good luck with the paint issue, I hope it all gets resolved to your satisfaction.
Unfortunately that seems to be what it's coming down to. However, the dealer could do more and offer me an additional discount on the car. I will have to do an entirely new purchase agreement on this second one so the price isn't set in stone as of now. Or...they could just let me out of the deal entirely and I will wait for the 2010's to come out and hope for better quality paint.

The sad part is that I really LOVE this car...it's just beautiful and I love the ride...but I do expect quality paint and should settle for no less than that.

JungleB 08-25-2009 07:46 PM
Here's some interesting information on how to deal with paint defects on new cars. If worse comes to worse you can spend a little bit of money and take them to small claims court. From what you're saying it sounds like they would want to settle before court since the paint is defective.


Scroll down to the Getting a paint/defect settlement section.
LemondAidCars.com

Benibiker 08-27-2009 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by WShade (Post 165483)
You cant blame the color for those issues. More than likely those issues came from location, climate and age. Although, you do have to maintain red almost as much as you do black. Don't buy red or black if you are not meticulous and familiar with proper auto detailing.
I agree and haven't bought another red car.:tiphat:

SB350z 08-27-2009 01:12 AM
I'm sorry, I don't see any purple defect in this picture ;). I see a beautiful Z and a pretty girl.

http://www.the370z.com/members/ougir...first-370z.jpg

:hello:

simota1 08-27-2009 03:24 AM
Sup man... im feel really bad for you... i have a solid red also but i dont have any defects of purplish or watever ur saying.... i live on a small island and the weather here sucks not to mention the harsh salt conditions ur car is put through... but even then no purple haze... the only complaint to it was that there was fish eye reaction on the roof... but they gave me a discount and i didnt really care much after that... :happydance: all im gonna say is hang in there i know ur frustrated and u feel like batting the z cuz of the frustration ur going through but dont worry in the end itll be worth it... :tup:

here are pics of my z... first is recent but the pic is high def taken by my good friend but over saturated from wat people say... the second is with a regular camera i took... still looks like that bright shiny and red... no purple...

http://www.the370z.com/members/simot...-0057-1-wm.jpg

http://www.the370z.com/members/simot...poiler-001.jpg

mrmixitup 08-27-2009 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted by ougirlkel (Post 156302)
It doesn't have the quality of a $50,000 car!!!!!!
LOL. This must be your first Nissan. You want to see horrendus paint? Try this:

1. Walk up to a 2002 Sentra SE-R Spec-V*.
2. Lightly apply pressure to the paint using your fingernail.
3. Witness the carnage.

*This experiment will also work on 02-06 Altimas.

Seriously, you couldn't even wet sand a B15 Sentra. If you did, there would be nothing left.

Blackbelt 08-27-2009 10:04 AM
Believe it or not.........
 
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Originally Posted by ougirlkel (Post 156080)
So, I am so comforted to know I'm not the only one having problems with my BRAND NEW RED 370Z!

I bought it in June and immediately noticed little purple/pearlish spots all over the car. You couldn't feel them or get them off and the dealer tried to do some stuff and had no success. Nissan actually had someone from HQ come in and look at this car and they said "get her a new one". So after a long process of trying to find my exact same car...I got a new one. I picked it up last week...and it has the same purple spots (not as many, but still...). They had called it "fallout" as a result of pollution...the first car came from S. Texas. But this second car came from S. Dakota...so I doubt it's pollution!

I took it to my paint guy and he said it looks like moisture got on the car before they did the clear coat and is trapped in between the red and clear. So, his concern was that it may try to come out someday and mess up the paint.

I took the car back today and told them I wasn't satisfied and just don't even want it anymore. It is rediculous to spend this much money on a car and it not be PERFECT...I'm tired of messing with it. As I was leaving the lot, I stopped at the red (lower end model) they have on display...it has the same crap on it...purple/pearlish spots in the paint....REDICULOUS!!!!

Nissan really needs to check the quality controls on their paint process!!!!
I purchased my Solid Red 370Z in July 2009. A couple of weeks after that while it was sitting out in the hot North Carolina sun I noticed little paint bubbles on the hood and front fender. They looked like droplets of water but they were firm to the touch. I really stressed out about it but while I was trying to take a picture of them to send to my salesman I went to clean some bug splatter off the car with a damp cloth and when I ran the cloth over the bubbles they rubbed off and there was no trace of them ever having been there. The bubbles still appear, only smaller, and only appear in the hot sun. I am meticulous about detailing my 370Z at least once a week so it's not tree sap or something of that nature. My latest theory is that either the clear coat is oozing something because there is no red on the cloth or maybe the "First Place Finish" car wax the dealer had on it when I bought it is bubbling up in the hot sun. Has anyone else with the bubble problem tried wiping them off with a damp cloth?

p j turner 08-28-2009 02:53 PM
red paint
 
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Originally Posted by ougirlkel (Post 156080)
So, I am so comforted to know I'm not the only one having problems with my BRAND NEW RED 370Z!

I bought it in June and immediately noticed little purple/pearlish spots all over the car. You couldn't feel them or get them off and the dealer tried to do some stuff and had no success. Nissan actually had someone from HQ come in and look at this car and they said "get her a new one". So after a long process of trying to find my exact same car...I got a new one. I picked it up last week...and it has the same purple spots (not as many, but still...). They had called it "fallout" as a result of pollution...the first car came from S. Texas. But this second car came from S. Dakota...so I doubt it's pollution!

I took it to my paint guy and he said it looks like moisture got on the car before they did the clear coat and is trapped in between the red and clear. So, his concern was that it may try to come out someday and mess up the paint.

I took the car back today and told them I wasn't satisfied and just don't even want it anymore. It is rediculous to spend this much money on a car and it not be PERFECT...I'm tired of messing with it. As I was leaving the lot, I stopped at the red (lower end model) they have on display...it has the same crap on it...purple/pearlish spots in the paint....REDICULOUS!!!!

Nissan really needs to check the quality controls on their paint process!!!!
Ifeel the need to reply to this ,as my RED G T R, IS having the same problem.I live in the uk but have never bought a RED car before.I have very soft paint with very small raised spots,also bird poo is etching right into the paint .Nissan is investigating.While the garage has offered to buff the paint.I think this is stupid to try this. I will keep you posted on this.I previously owned 2 350z s,but they were metallic silver/blue,no probs with them.P J T paul from uk:stirthepot:

ougirlkel 08-29-2009 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by JungleB (Post 169200)
Here's some interesting information on how to deal with paint defects on new cars. If worse comes to worse you can spend a little bit of money and take them to small claims court. From what you're saying it sounds like they would want to settle before court since the paint is defective.


Scroll down to the Getting a paint/defect settlement section.
LemondAidCars.com
Yeah...after five brutal days of arguing with them this week...I've decided that I will have to take that route!

ougirlkel 08-29-2009 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by SB350z (Post 172050)
I'm sorry, I don't see any purple defect in this picture ;). I see a beautiful Z and a pretty girl.

http://www.the370z.com/members/ougir...first-370z.jpg

:hello:
:) So Sweet!!! Thanks...and it does look great huh?? You have to look up close to see the spots...

ougirlkel 08-29-2009 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Blackbelt (Post 172306)
I purchased my Solid Red 370Z in July 2009. A couple of weeks after that while it was sitting out in the hot North Carolina sun I noticed little paint bubbles on the hood and front fender. They looked like droplets of water but they were firm to the touch. I really stressed out about it but while I was trying to take a picture of them to send to my salesman I went to clean some bug splatter off the car with a damp cloth and when I ran the cloth over the bubbles they rubbed off and there was no trace of them ever having been there. The bubbles still appear, only smaller, and only appear in the hot sun. I am meticulous about detailing my 370Z at least once a week so it's not tree sap or something of that nature. My latest theory is that either the clear coat is oozing something because there is no red on the cloth or maybe the "First Place Finish" car wax the dealer had on it when I bought it is bubbling up in the hot sun. Has anyone else with the bubble problem tried wiping them off with a damp cloth?
That's different...I have not experienced the bubbles like you describe...However, that would require that I actually have the car to begin with...I haven't had it for over a month now.

ougirlkel 08-29-2009 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by p j turner (Post 174660)
Ifeel the need to reply to this ,as my RED G T R, IS having the same problem.I live in the uk but have never bought a RED car before.I have very soft paint with very small raised spots,also bird poo is etching right into the paint .Nissan is investigating.While the garage has offered to buff the paint.I think this is stupid to try this. I will keep you posted on this.I previously owned 2 350z s,but they were metallic silver/blue,no probs with them.P J T paul from uk:stirthepot:
WOW...that stinks and I feel your pain! My Dad actually has a red GT-R as well but I haven't had a chance to really look at it closely to see if it may have the same problem too (he's out of state). I will get to see it here in a week or so and I will be looking for defects!!! I'll let you know what I find.

cptspeed 08-29-2009 11:35 AM
I have a red Z also. The paint sucks, period. purple dots, orange peel, fine scratches, easily chipped, the whole nine. Experienced the same thing with my 350. But I love the car and will drive it till its time to get repainted. I see people paying 5000 plus for rims, stereos, etc. I have no problem repainting when time comes. If you want a sports car with all characteristics of a Z and an A-one paint job, buy a porsche cayman. The Z has a great ride, engine, interior, performance and handling. There is no competition in the 30,000 dollar price range. Buy the car, baby the paint and you'll be happy. You can get most of blems out of the paint if taken to someone who knows what they're doing. Don't let the dealer touch the paint. Worth a couple hundred dollars to me.

OWSIU 08-29-2009 12:28 PM
Are those "little purple/pearlish spots all over the car" tiny specks about the size of a bic ball point pen tip and are distributed maybe and inch or so apart?

cptspeed 08-29-2009 04:19 PM
mine were yes

antennahead 08-29-2009 10:10 PM
Sorry you are still having problems. I hope you get it resolved to your satisfaction!

John

ougirlkel 08-31-2009 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by OWSIU (Post 176265)
Are those "little purple/pearlish spots all over the car" tiny specks about the size of a bic ball point pen tip and are distributed maybe and inch or so apart?
yes...some are tiny dots and some were larger (up to pea size)...

Blackbelt 09-01-2009 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by OWSIU (Post 176265)
Are those "little purple/pearlish spots all over the car" tiny specks about the size of a bic ball point pen tip and are distributed maybe and inch or so apart?
I also have them exactly as you describe. Have you tried wiping them with a damp cloth followed by a dry cloth? When I do that the spots on my car disappear, which leads me to believe it is either surface pollutants or the wax beading up.

ougirlkel 09-01-2009 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Blackbelt (Post 181459)
I also have them exactly as you describe. Have you tried wiping them with a damp cloth followed by a dry cloth? When I do that the spots on my car disappear, which leads me to believe it is either surface pollutants or the wax beading up.
We tried everything to get these out...the dealer even tried claybar and buffing...

ougirlkel 09-17-2009 10:56 AM
So the dealer I have been dealing with has hired a new Service Manager who has taken my case. He reviewed my file and everything that they have attempted to do to the car to fix this problem...he wanted to try to find an alternative to repainting the car since that would not be an ideal situation for any of us...

So, this Service Manager (who is now my hero) thought outside the "bay" and has come up with a way to fix it...he told me how and said a lot of "car" words that I didn't quite understand, but the section he tested looked good. So he thinks he may have my car (nice and shiny no purple dots) back to me by tomorrow!!!! OMG this would be fantastic!

If this truly does work the way I am hoping it will, I will get the details of what he did so I can let everyone know who might have similar issues~!

I am just so glad that I may not have to have my BRAND NEW car repainted!!!!:driving:

kdo2milger 09-17-2009 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ougirlkel (Post 202112)
So the dealer I have been dealing with has hired a new Service Manager who has taken my case. He reviewed my file and everything that they have attempted to do to the car to fix this problem...he wanted to try to find an alternative to repainting the car since that would not be an ideal situation for any of us...

So, this Service Manager (who is now my hero) thought outside the "bay" and has come up with a way to fix it...he told me how and said a lot of "car" words that I didn't quite understand, but the section he tested looked good. So he thinks he may have my car (nice and shiny no purple dots) back to me by tomorrow!!!! OMG this would be fantastic!

If this truly does work the way I am hoping it will, I will get the details of what he did so I can let everyone know who might have similar issues~!

I am just so glad that I may not have to have my BRAND NEW car repainted!!!!:driving:

glad to finally here that :tup: but i must have details...what are they doing?

wet sanding and polishing?

ougirlkel 09-18-2009 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by kdo2milger (Post 202165)
glad to finally here that :tup: but i must have details...what are they doing?

wet sanding and polishing?
I will let you know as soon as I find out the specifics...they were hopeful that I would get the car back today! So, I am waiting by the phone for the good news! Two months without my baby...I'm going crazy!!!!

kdo2milger 09-18-2009 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ougirlkel (Post 203686)
I will let you know as soon as I find out the specifics...they were hopeful that I would get the car back today! So, I am waiting by the phone for the good news! Two months without my baby...I'm going crazy!!!!
2 months! thats enough to drive a person insane :icon14:

let us know how it goes..

red z's!

Blackbelt 09-21-2009 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by kdo2milger (Post 203705)
2 months! thats enough to drive a person insane :icon14:

let us know how it goes..

red z's!
Yes, please let us know what you think. If it works to your satisfaction I would love to have the Service Manager's contact information so my local Service Manager can get the details. Your SM should consider going into business for himself fixing paint issues such as this.

Has anyone experienced the paint bubble issue on any colors other than Solid Red?

Blown32 09-21-2009 03:38 PM
I have a couple on my hood and the color is black!I'll bet every 09 Z has some sort of issue if they are looked at hard enough!

maiku 09-24-2009 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Spikuh (Post 156342)
Oddly enough I was discussing paint colors the other day with my uncle, who has owned a couple Z's (still has his 50th 300zx) plus a few other Nissans and he mentioned that red has typically been the color that wears out or tears up the fastest on Nissans.

May or may not be true, so take it for what its worth.
Red is pretty much always the fastest to wear out, regardless of the manufacture. It shows fading the most.

kdo2milger 09-24-2009 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by maiku (Post 211887)
Red is pretty much always the fastest to wear out, regardless of the manufacture. It shows fading the most.
oh really :rolleyes:

maiku 09-27-2009 01:51 PM
Yeah, I thought that was common knowledge. o__o
Be sure to keep her garaged if you can and keep it waxed.


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