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juan05 08-07-2009 12:45 PM

370z nismo vs evo
 
Who do you think will do better 0 to 60 runs and quarter miles and track times after engines are broken in? My friend keeps sayng evos will spank my nismo....i doubt it...just want to get you opinion...

semtex 08-07-2009 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juan05 (Post 142221)
Who do you think will do better 0 to 60 runs and quarter miles and track times after engines are broken in? My friend keeps sayng evos will spank my nismo....i doubt it...just want to get you opinion...

The better driver.

shabarivas 08-07-2009 01:11 PM

Are you joking me? an evo + 1k = goodbye Z... no joke ... my evo X with the normal stage 1 cobb map w/ a cobb AP would destroy my Z and your nismo... Those things respond so well to boltons its not even funny...

Look at it like this... XTREMEBOOST had a full bolt on evo X (thats no tune / no fuel upgrades / no meth etc) that ran 11.9

You will need to be FI w/ about 15k in your car to be able to run that time... Goodluck

If he is stock it will be a drivers race - but he has his AWD launch which is awesome...

so here are your options:

If the Evo is stock - if you get a good launch your nismo will be ok (still close)
if he is modded at all - no hope at all for the Z

But if you were to open a 1/2 mile drag strip - your stock Z will destroy the Evo... they suck at putting power down up top.. and the run out of juice quickly - but when they have juice - you just cant eff w/ em...

theDreamer 08-07-2009 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by semtex (Post 142257)
The better driver.

This, end thread.

Red370 08-07-2009 01:17 PM

Spank? Evidently your friend is misinformed. Similar 0-60 times/Quarter mile times w/ a base Z, depending on how good a driver you are, you "should" take this one. Direct him to the new issue of DSport, the base Z put down better times than both the EVO and STI. Also while your at it, tell him to take his matchbox rally car back and get something that men drive, not a zit faced teenager drivin, turbo'ed family car.:icon17:

whoady4shoady 08-07-2009 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 142269)
Spank? Evidently your friend is misinformed. Similar 0-60 times/Quarter mile times w/ a base Z, depending on how good a driver you are, you "should" take this one. Direct him to the new issue of DSport, the base Z put down better times than both the EVO and STI. Also while your at it, tell him to take his matchbox rally car back and get something that men drive, not a zit faced teenager drivin, turbo'ed family car.:icon17:

Did you have to do it? LMAO :stirthepot:

Ryan@Forged 08-07-2009 01:41 PM

Another one of these threads...

Quote:

Originally Posted by juan05 (Post 142221)
Who do you think will do better 0 to 60 runs and quarter miles and track times after engines are broken in? My friend keeps sayng evos will spank my nismo....i doubt it...just want to get you opinion...

Once modded not even a contest. Evo hands down, without a question. You doubt it? May want to look harder into it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by semtex (Post 142257)
The better driver.

Wrong, not when modded.

Quote:

Originally Posted by shabarivas (Post 142260)
Are you joking me? an evo + 1k = goodbye Z... no joke ... my evo X with the normal stage 1 cobb map w/ a cobb AP would destroy my Z and your nismo... Those things respond so well to boltons its not even funny...

Look at it like this... XTREMEBOOST had a full bolt on evo X (thats no tune / no fuel upgrades / no meth etc) that ran 11.9

You will need to be FI w/ about 15k in your car to be able to run that time... Goodluck

If he is stock it will be a drivers race - but he has his AWD launch which is awesome...

so here are your options:

If the Evo is stock - if you get a good launch your nismo will be ok (still close)
if he is modded at all - no hope at all for the Z

But if you were to open a 1/2 mile drag strip - your stock Z will destroy the Evo... they suck at putting power down up top.. and the run out of juice quickly - but when they have juice - you just cant eff w/ em...

Well said

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 142262)
This, end thread.

Wrong again.


Plain and simple, if you bring modding into the game it's not a drivers race, it's not really even a race. The Evo has launch control, AWD, and is more responsive to mods. Multiple 8 and 9 second 1/4 mile Evo's out there. It's easy to make a 10 second stock block Evo these days. If you want a drivers race do a fully built Z with TT vs a lightly modded Evo.

FuszNissan 08-07-2009 01:47 PM

These threads are worthless. Sorry just my :twocents:

theDreamer 08-07-2009 01:47 PM

But we are not talking about modding Ryan, stock v. stock.
This is why I hate threads like this, well I can add this mod v. you and win, but if you add this mod you will win. That is great, but stock v. stock it is a drivers race, mostly.

Ryan@Forged 08-07-2009 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 142269)
Spank? Evidently your friend is misinformed. Similar 0-60 times/Quarter mile times w/ a base Z, depending on how good a driver you are, you "should" take this one. Direct him to the new issue of DSport, the base Z put down better times than both the EVO and STI. Also while your at it, tell him to take his matchbox rally car back and get something that men drive, not a zit faced teenager drivin, turbo'ed family car.:icon17:

You're misreading the opening post. This is not a stock vs stock comparison. This is a modded vs modded comparison. Way to stereotype the Evo drivers. Call it what you want, but the average "matchbox rally family car" will outrun and outcorner you. They are capable of much more than you would assume they are. I think you would also find that Evo drivers are just like the Z drivers. Same age range, maturity, and love for cars. I hate to see anyone stereotyping an entire community like that.

frost 08-07-2009 01:49 PM

:sigh:

shabarivas 08-07-2009 01:49 PM

Lol its funny but its also true - There are plenty of Xs in the 12s who have a turbo back + FMIC + tune ... thats what - 1000 + 500 + 500 (labor) + 1000 (MAX) for the tune ... so for 3k you could have a low 12s evo ... but you could hope he fries his clutch if its stock and then you would totally win :)

You buy a Z not to drag race out of the box.. you buy a Z to drive it and be one w/ the road and car - something that a lot of modern AWD cars dont do as well (at least for me)... Stock for stock means nothing as almost NO ONE will buy an evo and leave it stock... and you would be silly to TT your nismo Z... cus you could have just gotten the base one to TT...

shabarivas 08-07-2009 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 142316)
But we are not talking about modding Ryan, stock v. stock.
This is why I hate threads like this, well I can add this mod v. you and win, but if you add this mod you will win. That is great, but stock v. stock it is a drivers race, mostly.

Unless you are spending 15K + on a Z ... an evo w/ about 3k in it will WALK all over you... sorry but this is VERY true...

Ryan@Forged 08-07-2009 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 142316)
But we are not talking about modding Ryan, stock v. stock.
This is why I hate threads like this, well I can add this mod v. you and win, but if you add this mod you will win. That is great, but stock v. stock it is a drivers race, mostly.

I may be misreading the opening post. I assumed him referring to engines broken in he meant modded, not through the break-in time period. I don't see why anyone would take it to the drag strip without a proper break-in. I may just be a bit confused here. If we are comparing stock vs stock then disregard my comments as they only apply to modded vs modded.

theDreamer 08-07-2009 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shabarivas (Post 142323)
Unless you are spending 15K + on a Z ... an evo w/ about 3k in it will WALK all over you... sorry but this is VERY true...

Again, stock v. stock, please stop this well I can add 3k worth of mods. That is great, I know an Evo responds well to mods, but lets talk stock v. stock.

Red370 08-07-2009 02:02 PM

if you noticed, he said ABSOLUTELY nothing about light or heavy mods, stock for stock, its a drivers race. And my stereotypical views are my own, thats why we have these things called "opinions". The EVO/STI styling is nothing close to being refined, ugly as all shyte IMHO, they are designed for race use and thats it. I'll put my next paycheck on the fact that my Z will turn far more heads than an EVO 10/10 times, which is why I bought it. Suuuuure an EVO can be a track beast, but whats funnier is that Steph Papadakis in his junkyard EP3 Civic routinely eats your turbo box for breakfast, lunch and dinner. As I recall, just for shytes, he bought one for 500, turbo'ed it, built his own suspension and posted full second better times at Buttonwillow than 60K plus built EVO's. Lets not get into a pissing match here, I state facts, not BS.

frost 08-07-2009 02:04 PM

http://www.sneeko.net/images/macros/...pid-Actors.jpg

Brazilbro 08-07-2009 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 142269)
Spank? Evidently your friend is misinformed. Similar 0-60 times/Quarter mile times w/ a base Z, depending on how good a driver you are, you "should" take this one. Direct him to the new issue of DSport, the base Z put down better times than both the EVO and STI. Also while your at it, tell him to take his matchbox rally car back and get something that men drive, not a zit faced teenager drivin, turbo'ed family car.:icon17:

You probably think all black people like bbq's and watermelon too:owned:

Red370 08-07-2009 02:09 PM

oh did I mention that this was done for a total of 5K? And you as well as I know that mods for that car arent cheap. The 4B11 can only withstand 400-450 whp before they blow, now when we start talking about forged internals... how much we talkin now? BTW 8-9 sec EVO's will cost more to build than most Z owners make in a year.:icon17:

INSURANCE101 08-07-2009 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Brazilbro (Post 142352)
You probably think all black people like bbq's and watermelon too:owned:

and KFC

Red370 08-07-2009 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brazilbro (Post 142352)
You probably think all black people like bbq's and watermelon too:owned:

ouch, looks like I touched a nerve with EVO avatar guy! And yes, my black friends love bbq and watermelon, nuttin wrong wit dat!

:yum:

blue660r01 08-07-2009 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brazilbro (Post 142352)
You probably think all black people like bbq's and watermelon too:owned:

Dont they? Damn I must be living in a cave :shakes head:

nogoodname 08-07-2009 02:15 PM

http://www.opaquelucidity.com/facepalm.jpg

Red370 08-07-2009 02:17 PM

now, ahem, before we turn this into a civil war.. back to the question at hand, it will be a drivers race stock for stock, you think your better? Then go for it!

frost 08-07-2009 02:18 PM

http://www.offresonance.com/wp-conte...e-facepalm.jpg

Lug 08-07-2009 02:18 PM

We get to mod? I WILL DESTROY YOU ALL! :mad:

http://riceorama.com/images/2008/dec...ser_mobile.jpg

kdoske 08-07-2009 02:18 PM

I would like to turn this into a, 'what car looks better thread'. Evo or a 370Z? umm yeah, I rest my case....

LiquidZ 08-07-2009 02:34 PM

Threads like these are just ridiculous.

Ryan@Forged 08-07-2009 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 142345)
if you noticed, he said ABSOLUTELY nothing about light or heavy mods, stock for stock, its a drivers race. And my stereotypical views are my own, thats why we have these things called "opinions". The EVO/STI styling is nothing close to being refined, ugly as all shyte IMHO, they are designed for race use and thats it. I'll put my next paycheck on the fact that my Z will turn far more heads than an EVO 10/10 times, which is why I bought it. Suuuuure an EVO can be a track beast, but whats funnier is that Steph Papadakis in his junkyard EP3 Civic routinely eats your turbo box for breakfast, lunch and dinner. As I recall, just for shytes, he bought one for 500, turbo'ed it, built his own suspension and posted full second better times at Buttonwillow than 60K plus built EVO's. Lets not get into a pissing match here, I state facts, not BS.

Go back and read where I posted that I may have misread the opening post and to disregard if it was stock vs stock. It should be pretty easy to spot, I put it in bold lettering just for this reason.

How much is your paycheck? I look forward to claiming it if you really want to put your theory to the test that your Z will turn more heads 10/10. I like how you pull another car to compare to the Evo instead of your Z. There will always be a faster car, we can go back and forth all day with one car after another if you want to start that. I believe the discussion at hand was Evo vs Z.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 142358)
oh did I mention that this was done for a total of 5K? And you as well as I know that mods for that car arent cheap. The 4B11 can only withstand 400-450 whp before they blow, now when we start talking about forged internals... how much we talkin now? BTW 8-9 sec EVO's will cost more to build than most Z owners make in a year.:icon17:


Meet Ryan Gates 500+ hp stock block

http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/r...311_Jumper.jpg

There are no Z's in modified posting times anywhere in the ballpark of him.

So you're downplaying an Evo because it costs more to build. How much does it costs to get a Z up to 500+ whp?

Red370 08-07-2009 02:38 PM

Agreed, why does everyone have to be so damn opinionated!:rofl2:

Red370 08-07-2009 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan@Forged (Post 142402)
Go back and read where I posted that I may have misread the opening post and to disregard if it was stock vs stock. It should be pretty easy to spot, I put it in bold lettering just for this reason.

How much is your paycheck? I look forward to claiming it if you really want to put your theory to the test that your Z will turn more heads 10/10. I like how you pull another car to compare to the Evo instead of your Z. There will always be a faster car, we can go back and forth all day with one car after another if you want to start that. I believe the discussion at hand was Evo vs Z.




Meet Ryan Gates 500+ hp stock block

http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/r...311_Jumper.jpg

There are no Z's in modified posting times anywhere in the ballpark of him.

So you're downplaying an Evo because it costs more to build. How much does it costs to get a Z up to 500+ whp?

As ive stated, im not getting into a pissing match. And we'll see how long his aluminum block will last, not long im sure. Also, pass some advice onto that guy for me, stop blowing all that money on the block and either spend some cash on a better suspension setup or driving school lessons to keep those tires planted better.
:icon17:

Red370 08-07-2009 02:47 PM

And to be honest Ryan, shouldnt you be trying to sell your parts/services rather than campaigning for a car this board does not represent instead of getting into a pissing match with a lowly non premium member like myself ? Just my .02

Chupacabra 08-07-2009 02:48 PM

http://webpages.marshall.edu/~newman24/Topfuel.jpg

i will own all of you... sideways.

Smallywood 08-07-2009 02:49 PM

I'll just drive my brand new stock ZR1 if I want to race anyone...

Red370 08-07-2009 02:57 PM

a nismo Z and a ZR1? I smell a drug dealer! Haha

Ryan@Forged 08-07-2009 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 142405)
As ive stated, im not getting into a pissing match. And we'll see how long his aluminum block will last, not long im sure. Also, pass some advice onto that guy for me, stop blowing all that money on the block and either spend some cash on a better suspension setup or driving school lessons to keep those tires planted better.
:icon17:

He happens to be one of the best drivers in the time attack series right now. JRZ 3 way adjustable coilovers. Beating the competition by a significant margin, but you're right, he needs driving lessons :rolleyes:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 142407)
And to be honest Ryan, shouldnt you be trying to sell your parts/services rather than campaigning for a car this board does not represent instead of getting into a pissing match with a lowly non premium member like myself ? Just my .02

I think I/we do a great job selling parts/services and representing this community. I also am outspoken when i think someone has unrealistic goals or is presenting wrong information. I'm not campaigning for a case, just stating the facts as I see them and pointing out misinformation as I see it. I treat everyone the same whether they are a professional racer, vendor/sponsor, premium member, or a base member. None of us are better than anyone else. That's my 2 cents.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chupacabra (Post 142408)
http://webpages.marshall.edu/~newman24/Topfuel.jpg

i will own all of you... sideways.

:bowrofl: I give

Red370 08-07-2009 03:00 PM

well said Ryan.

bboypuertoroc 08-07-2009 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 142269)
All my posts fail except for the one directly above this.

Stop while you're behind.

bboypuertoroc 08-07-2009 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juan05 (Post 142221)
Who do you think will do better 0 to 60 runs and quarter miles and track times after engines are broken in? My friend keeps sayng evos will spank my nismo....i doubt it...just want to get you opinion...

He'll rape you 0-60 (if he can drive).

1/4 is a driver's race.

Stop with the ******* bench racing already and go to the ******* track.

Red370 08-07-2009 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bboypuertoroc (Post 142424)
Stop while you're behind.

And you sir, are an idiot, congratulations. :icon18: And please do some research before you spew forth that vomit you state as fact. No one will rape anyone if both are stock. The 0-60 times are the same. And 350bhp as opposed to the EVO's 291 suggest the Z's top end will win the 1/4 mile hands down. But im just stating the facts, chime in with the BS whenever you like.

EVO X
0-60: 4.9
1/4 mile: 13.6

370Z Base Sport
0-60: 4.7
1/4 mile: 13.2/.3

numbers dont lie hoss.

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleid=124209


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