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shika805 10-18-2013 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Redglare (Post 2525336)
November can't come sooner....

2900lbs i4 turbo Z could be a sweet deal..

also until some solid progress is made in the battery industry the sports cars should stay away or at least keep the battery potential minimal (like the porsche 918 spyder)

thats what i was saying though? doesnt that sound like a new 240sx? sr20t motor? why slap a the Z name to it? it aint right imo.

Pitch 11-08-2013 07:24 PM

meh. idc if its turbo 4...as long as its up to par with the cla 45 amg's...

or they could always just

make

a version of audis sexy as **** 2.5l 5 cyl <3333

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

rebe945 11-08-2013 10:33 PM

new Z
 
If they make it smaller, no upgrade for me. Hello C7.:gtfo2:

Volk Z 11-09-2013 04:44 PM

My wish list-
2800-2900 pounds
315-325+HP 4 cylinder turbo
19 inch forged wheel option
Tone down the rotor size to 13 inches to save weight
4 versions-
1. A REAL track version like an EVO RS deal being the lightest of the bunch no wing, forged wheels single exhaust, cross or slotted rotors w/stainless lines and good fluid. Oil cooler, recaro seats or equivelant. Come with an aggressive front lip (like the top secret lip for 370z) and have black housing in headlights
2. Touring version- this model would be the heaviest and offered in a convertible and have the bose system, 20 inch wheels, non sport brakes and leather seats.
3. Sport model- sport calipers, forged wheels (depending on how small they make the car 18 or 19 inch) dual exhaust, sport seats but not a brand name.

Since NISMO models will be offered for most of Nissans models then they could have that just be a sport model with the Nismo add ons.

I think 4 models above would appeal to a larger niche. I'm sure most remember the 350z models- Base, enthusiest, performance, touring, track, nismo etc too many similarities and not differentiating between them enough to appeal to a larger audience.

Just my thoughts

jlo370z 11-09-2013 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by rebe945 (Post 2561716)
If they make it smaller, no upgrade for me. Hello C7.:gtfo2:


This

2xtreme1 11-09-2013 08:31 PM

Well..Its November..
when is the event taking place?

Joepro 11-10-2013 10:37 AM

TOKYO MOTOR SHOW WEB SITE

alphajam 11-11-2013 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2485873)
It could cost $1000, weigh 1000 lbs, make 1000hp and have an attachment to fondle your balls while you drive and someone here would still bitch about it.

HAHAHAHA:bowrofl:

Redglare 11-11-2013 02:29 PM

I wonder what will the new car do the Z34 used car pricing?

If we follow history, when the 09 z34's hit the dealer lot the prices on used 07-08 HR's took a pretty stout hit (going from 23-24k used down to low 20's within a matter of a few month and sub 20's within a year) down to low teens today.

Now that happened because the z34 was an upgrade in everything, interior trim, weight, power etc.

If the z35 delivers the same progression of upgrades (better interior, performance, etc) It would be safe to speculate that the z34 used market would see a 10-15% price drop shortly after release.

A similar phenomenon happened with the release of the C7 and is currently going on, the leftover 13's c6 vettes are sold for massive discounts (talking 15-20k off msrp), which in turn hit the used c6 market, I was tracking ebay C6 prices (similar milage years etc) since the debut of the c7 and noticed a steady decline of total sale price (in the range of 10-20% and dropping)

andre12031948 11-11-2013 03:10 PM

You may be not aware
 
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Originally Posted by Redglare (Post 2564450)
I wonder what will the new car do the Z34 used car pricing?

If we follow history, when the 09 z34's hit the dealer lot the prices on used 07-08 HR's took a pretty stout hit (going from 23-24k used down to low 20's within a matter of a few month and sub 20's within a year) down to low teens today.

Now that happened because the z34 was an upgrade in everything, interior trim, weight, power etc.

If the z35 delivers the same progression of upgrades (better interior, performance, etc) It would be safe to speculate that the z34 used market would see a 10-15% price drop shortly after release.

A similar phenomenon happened with the release of the C7 and is currently going on, the leftover 13's c6 vettes are sold for massive discounts (talking 15-20k off msrp), which in turn hit the used c6 market, I was tracking ebay C6 prices (similar milage years etc) since the debut of the c7 and noticed a steady decline of total sale price (in the range of 10-20% and dropping)

In 08 Nissan gave a $5,000 rebate plus some dealers also added a $3,000 discount for a total of $8,000. They thought the 09 z's would just kill the 350 sales. Well the 09 370's did sell well, but the 07/08 hr's kept their price high. Even today, the 08's that are in normal good condition sell between $15/$16k to over $20k. So things might not be so bad for the 370's. Much depends on what Nissan gives us. I'm taking a chance. Just bought a 2012 with 1,100 mileage. Picking it up tomorrow.

Cmike2780 11-11-2013 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Redglare (Post 2564450)
I wonder what will the new car do the Z34 used car pricing?

If we follow history, when the 09 z34's hit the dealer lot the prices on used 07-08 HR's took a pretty stout hit (going from 23-24k used down to low 20's within a matter of a few month and sub 20's within a year) down to low teens today.

Now that happened because the z34 was an upgrade in everything, interior trim, weight, power etc.

If the z35 delivers the same progression of upgrades (better interior, performance, etc) It would be safe to speculate that the z34 used market would see a 10-15% price drop shortly after release.

A similar phenomenon happened with the release of the C7 and is currently going on, the leftover 13's c6 vettes are sold for massive discounts (talking 15-20k off msrp), which in turn hit the used c6 market, I was tracking ebay C6 prices (similar milage years etc) since the debut of the c7 and noticed a steady decline of total sale price (in the range of 10-20% and dropping)

That's usually what happens when ANY new model comes along. The first year cars tend to hold higher re-sale values than the last year of the same model. With the 370 though, it has maintained it's value pretty well all things considering. It's a niche car to begin with. Would you expect to pay the same amount for a C7 as a C6 for example? The C6's were getting huge cuts before the C7 were announced. It's 9 years old for Christ sake and plenty of used car inventory to go around. The same can't really be said about the 370z. Relatively speaking, it wasn't anywhere near as successful as the C6 or 350z for that matter. Very few cars actually sold or were made in comparison.

Redglare 11-11-2013 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 2564536)
That's usually what happens when ANY new model comes along. The first year cars tend to hold higher re-sale values than the last year of the same model. With the 370 though, it has maintained it's value pretty well all things considering. It's a niche car to begin with. Would you expect to pay the same amount for a C7 as a C6 for example? The C6's were getting huge cuts before the C7 were announced. It's 9 years old for Christ sake and plenty of used car inventory to go around. The same can't really be said about the 370z. Relatively speaking, it wasn't anywhere near as successful as the C6 or 350z for that matter. Very few cars actually sold or were made in comparison.

Good point, the c6 / c7 did have a longer run cycle/ flooded market.

But you can already see 09-10 base sports dropping into low 20's/sub 20 range, not high mileage examples either.
I know they will level out eventually and hold, but the question is at what point will the prices level out. It's not helping that the used/new markets getting flooded with other sporty coupe competitors.
It's not complete chaos though, at least the Z will never suffer the fate of a used mustang... The 11' mustang GT's retailed for 30k, now they are down to sub 20 range.
To sum it all up it's basically not possible to win at this game unless you are buying an F40/F50, or had a mint s2000/nsx example (in that case the value actually appreciated), it's just finding that perfect line if you aren't planning to keep the car forever, there is a good time to unload and a bad time.

Cmike2780 11-12-2013 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Redglare (Post 2564646)
Good point, the c6 / c7 did have a longer run cycle/ flooded market.

But you can already see 09-10 base sports dropping into low 20's/sub 20 range, not high mileage examples either.
I know they will level out eventually and hold, but the question is at what point will the prices level out. It's not helping that the used/new markets getting flooded with other sporty coupe competitors.
It's not complete chaos though, at least the Z will never suffer the fate of a used mustang... The 11' mustang GT's retailed for 30k, now they are down to sub 20 range.
To sum it all up it's basically not possible to win at this game unless you are buying an F40/F50, or had a mint s2000/nsx example (in that case the value actually appreciated), it's just finding that perfect line if you aren't planning to keep the car forever, there is a good time to unload and a bad time.

I think the S2k, late model Supra's and even the late model 300ZX are great examples. Though they held their value mostly because they ceased production, I think the 370Z will share the same fate. Sooner or later, it will be harder and harder to find one in great condition that hasn't been abused. The price of an 09 may dip below $20k, but if you think about it, that's about a reasonable 40% depreciation for a car that's close to 5 years old. Compared to something like the 7 series, S-Class or A8, it's actually really, really good. Those cars depreciate like crazy....we're talking about a 60-70% depreciation in the same time span. You can probably find a 2009 7 series that once cost over $100k for around $30k.

fuct 11-12-2013 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 2565393)
I think the S2k, late model Supra's and even the late model 300ZX are great examples. Though they held their value mostly because they ceased production, I think the 370Z will share the same fate. Sooner or later, it will be harder and harder to find one in great condition that hasn't been abused. The price of an 09 may dip below $20k, but if you think about it, that's about a reasonable 40% depreciation for a car that's close to 5 years old. Compared to something like the 7 series, S-Class or A8, it's actually really, really good. Those cars depreciate like crazy....we're talking about a 60-70% depreciation in the same time span. You can probably find a 2009 7 series that once cost over $100k for around $30k.

Pretty close
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XPNSD IT 11-12-2013 04:05 PM

Heard it's going to be Electric and FWD....only kidding on the FWD...can't wait to see what else I can't afford.

Redglare 11-16-2013 12:12 PM

One week left

Pitch 11-16-2013 01:26 PM

The last week and a half or so since I read this has gone soooo slow lol

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2xtreme1 11-19-2013 02:42 PM

Well, Its opening day for the press today in Tokyo for the Auto show..
so......expect pics and or specs anywhere between couple hours to a couple days? :D

MC 11-19-2013 03:40 PM

yup

Pitch 11-19-2013 03:47 PM

Be sure to post when you see the info up somewhere!

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Redglare 11-19-2013 04:22 PM

OT: the new nismo gtr will be 600hp

2xtreme1 11-19-2013 04:35 PM

If it looks sexy I will buy it...regardless of specs. However, a 4cyl would make it less appealing no matter how it looks.
I've said it before, it will be hard to top the 370 on looks imo .

Redglare 11-19-2013 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 2xtreme1 (Post 2575317)
If it looks sexy I will buy it...regardless of specs. However, a 4cyl would make it less appealing no matter how it looks.
I've said it before, it will be hard to top the 370 on looks imo .

Yeah I agree with looks department,

but look what people were saying about the 350z back then; that it would be impossible to top the looks and yet the 370 came out and trumped it in all departments including looks.

MC 11-19-2013 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitch (Post 2575246)
Be sure to post when you see the info up somewhere!

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We are covering the motor show for the GTR so we will have many details pics to share of the Z

MC 11-19-2013 05:35 PM

It might be here in a few hours!!

NISSAN NEWSROOM on USTREAM: News and events from Nissan Motor Co., Ltd. . Other News

sfearl1 11-19-2013 07:42 PM

Annnd where's the Z concept!? Idx nismo looks pretty sweet.. like a 510. Is that supposed to be the FRS fighter?

Edit: got another angle of that Idx thing. meh.

Redglare 11-19-2013 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by sfearl1 (Post 2575483)
Annnd where's the Z concept!? Idx nismo looks pretty sweet.. like a 510. Is that supposed to be the FRS fighter?

Edit: got another angle of that Idx thing. meh.

I was waiting... and waiting...........
maybe we will see it sometime this week, this could be good news - perhaps the car is not evolutionary enough (i.e. good old petrol burning monster)

MC 11-19-2013 07:50 PM

yeah not what I was expecting


but this version is cool
http://www.nissan-newsroom.com/COMMO...dxnismo-08.jpg

http://www.nissan-newsroom.com/COMMO...dxnismo-25.jpg

Ubetit 11-19-2013 07:51 PM

Hopefully we'll see the Z on Friday

Pitch 11-19-2013 07:51 PM

Dafuq is that thing?

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sfearl1 11-19-2013 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Ubetit (Post 2575495)
Hopefully we'll see the Z on Friday

What is friday?

Ubetit 11-19-2013 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by sfearl1 (Post 2575499)
What is friday?

Tokyo Auto Show

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...concept-report

andre12031948 11-19-2013 07:57 PM

it's a joke right ?
 
I can see Bozo the clown stepping out of that car.

2xtreme1 11-19-2013 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Redglare (Post 2575328)
Yeah I agree with looks department,

but look what people were saying about the 350z back then; that it would be impossible to top the looks and yet the 370 came out and trumped it in all departments including looks.

Really ? Dang
I didn't know that, but in my opinion the 370 is way to sexy compared to the 350 .
I never really liked 350s most if not all are ugly.

Are those pics the z concept ?? Wtf Ewwww

XiP 11-19-2013 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MC (Post 2575493)

wow that looks so awesome, i want one!!!! NOT -_-

2xtreme1 11-19-2013 08:28 PM

I just asked the guys from motor authority on instagram to take pics
I got a reply with them saying that they will try their best they only have 2 people

370Z JT 11-19-2013 08:32 PM

Pics!!

370Z JT 11-19-2013 08:57 PM

The Motor Report: Auto News And Reviews has a video.

2xtreme1 11-19-2013 09:00 PM

The pics triple posted is the nissan idx Nismo

Tick64 11-19-2013 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Z JT (Post 2575557)

Omg, did I see denim/jean materials used in the interior of the IDx (non-Nismo version)??? Try pausing the video at 2:37 and 2:40. Please say I'm hallucinating...


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