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Redglare 09-05-2013 03:57 PM

Got caught in a stressful purchase bind.
 
Hey guys, I've been reading these forums forever now, so much information you guys rock!

I recently sold my 07 z33 6spd and was about to purchase a 370z, found a really low mileage (5k miles 2010 base sport for a reasonable price), the time to pull the trigger is now, but I am hesitating....

Please hear me out before I get a brick to the head. All the recent threads for the next gen Z are popping up, and look I know it's all speculation at this point, but one thing nissan did with all Z car generations (except one anomaly z32tt) was increase performance/ergonomic/design/aesthetics.

So now I am in a dilemma, drop close to 30k for an outgoing gen z34?, sit and wait who knows how long, I am guessing at least another year before they start hitting dealer lots.

I currently have a DD, so the Z was going to be purely a weekend warrior.

and just to clarify, no I am not interested in the current gen or future gen mustang g.:tiphat:

Arrvaxx 09-05-2013 04:01 PM

I think the general consensus is that they will be breaking the trend. There are a lot of threads on what might be coming.

theDreamer 09-05-2013 04:01 PM

If you always wait for the next best thing, you will always be waiting.

Arrvaxx 09-05-2013 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 2474572)
If you always wait for the next best thing, you will always be waiting.

That is true but his concern is valid and a car is a major purchase. Also, we will know a lot more in 6 months. What is the harm in waiting?

jburke26 09-05-2013 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 2474572)
If you always wait for the next best thing, you will always be waiting.

I agree, and a new Z will be much more $$ than you are spending on the used 2010 Z. Live it up now.

theDreamer 09-05-2013 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arrvaxx (Post 2474575)
That is true but his concern is valid and a car is a major purchase. Also, we will know a lot more in 6 months. What is the harm in waiting?

True a car is a major purchase, but you have to factor in enjoyment versus wait.
If he can wait for an officially announcement, probably not until 2014, and then choose between the going out 370z or get the new Z then that is fine. Though the point is, is it worth waiting instead of just purchasing and having fun now. And if something new comes out, he can always buy mods or even do a trade in for the newer Z as he is buying a used one. Diminishing value will have already hit picking up used so the value of the car will hold even with the announcement of a new Z.

SPOHN 09-05-2013 04:09 PM

As nice as it is to wait on the next model my concerns is with Nissan making a hole new engine. That's when recalls happen. Never a good idea to buy the first year model. Let the kinks get worked out.

enkei2k 09-05-2013 04:12 PM

I'd wait since you said it'll be a weekend car. Not like your DD is dying and you need a new car ASAP.

If I like the next gen, I'll take that and pay a bit more for it. If not, then I'll find an older model and settle. That's what I did when I picked up my 2012 Z. Saw the 2013 'refresh', threw up in my mouth a little, and went to the dealership to pick up a 2012 model instead.

kenchan 09-05-2013 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redglare (Post 2474562)
Hey guys, I've been reading these forums forever now, so much information you guys rock!

I recently sold my 07 z33 6spd and was about to purchase a 370z, found a really low mileage (5k miles 2010 base sport for a reasonable price), the time to pull the trigger is now, but I am hesitating....

Please here me out before I get a brick to the head. All the recent threads for the next gen Z are popping up, and look I know it's all speculation at this point, but one thing nissan did with all Z car generations (except one anomaly z32tt) was increase performance/ergonomic/design/aesthetics.

So now I am in a dilemma, drop close to 30k for an outgoing gen z34?, sit and wait who knows how long, I am guessing at least another year before they start hitting dealer lots.

I currently have a DD, so the Z was going to be purely a weekend warrior.

and just to clarify, no I am not interested in the current gen or future gen mustang g.:tiphat:

if you are not in luv with the Z34, i would just wait and see. you can always buy a used Z34 if you decide you want one later.

Minsu 09-05-2013 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2474593)
if you are not in luv with the Z34, i would just wait and see. you can always buy a used Z34 if you decide you want one later.

woah quite the wise words :bowrofl::ohsnap1:

Redglare 09-05-2013 04:47 PM

Lol thanks guys, all input processed and considered, might wait a bit longer and just throw the Z money in a nice semi-aggressive return investment.

I guess for another 6 month I will have to suffer a 4cyl auto dd, then when solid info on next gen comes along I will jump on a low mileage (sub 10k) Z.

It's going to be a painful time not having a Z under me. :(, every time I see a 350 or 370 on the road my clutch foot hits the footrest in the scion.

DIGItonium 09-05-2013 05:07 PM

Well if you like, wait for the new model. If it doesn't appeal to you, you can get great deals on the previous model. At least you will save up more till then.

1st 09-05-2013 05:33 PM

Life is a gamble that’s what I’ve been told.

JungleZ 09-05-2013 05:57 PM

If you get the current gen z get an automatic.

Mt Tam I am 09-05-2013 06:02 PM

I say brick to the head!

Rumors are just that. Wait for the unknown or take the current known. I doubt I'll trade in my Z34. Serously doubt it. Gen 7 Corvette sounds sweet too. By spending $10-20K more for a car may not result in that much more fun.

Good luck.

Mt Tam I am 09-05-2013 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1st (Post 2474663)
Life is a gamble that’s what I’ve been told.

So do we hedge our bets or double down? Answer is yes. :icon14:

NismoZ70 09-05-2013 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JungleZ (Post 2474679)
If you get the current gen z get an automatic.

Why should he get an automatic? I'm not asking because I think that's a bad idea. Just wondering what the logic is. Just interested to know.

Cbtech 09-05-2013 06:54 PM

You should never buy the first of anything that is:

A. Software (Windows Vista)
B. Mechanical (Steering wheel lock)
C. Computer or tech related (first gen Android phones - see software)
D. Young woman (fun at first but get old real quick)

If you are that guy then you are the one that everyone is sitting on the boat watching you sink because they want to see what happens before they jump in.

Drex 09-05-2013 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NismoZ70 (Post 2474718)
Why should he get an automatic? I'm not asking because I think that's a bad idea. Just wondering what the logic is. Just interested to know.

ignore the troll, manual is fine

Winn 09-05-2013 07:58 PM

As nice as it is to wait on the next model my concerns is with Nissan making a hole new engine. That's when recalls happen. Never a good idea to buy the first year model. Let the kinks get worked out.

:iagree:

They make changes to correct things as the line ages that they may not
announce. Looks to me like a lot of the chronic issues are always 09's & 10's.

PapoZalsa 09-05-2013 08:14 PM

Just concentrate on the car you want to buy now, $30K for a 2010 Base?

gr8-wrx 09-05-2013 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cbtech (Post 2474729)
You should never buy the first of anything that is:

A. Software (Windows Vista)
B. Mechanical (Steering wheel lock)
C. Computer or tech related (first gen Android phones - see software)
D. Young woman (fun at first but get old real quick)

If you are that guy then you are the one that everyone is sitting on the boat watching you sink because they want to see what happens before they jump in.


I would say "D." is just fine. Just move on when appropriate. :tup:

Redglare 09-05-2013 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PapoZalsa (Post 2474833)
Just concentrate on the car you want to buy now, $30K for a 2010 Base?

Quote:

Originally Posted by JungleZ (Post 2474679)
If you get the current gen z get an automatic.

it's actually 25,750 ~ after tax ~27k, for a 2010 base sport 6mt.

and I could never get an automatic Z, nothing is wrong with it but for a weekend warrior over 50% of the fun comes from rowing your own gears!:yum:

PaulZ370 09-05-2013 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JungleZ (Post 2474679)
If you get the current gen z get an automatic.

There is nothing like the thrill of a manual tranny...:driving:

Guavazo 09-05-2013 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redglare (Post 2474902)
it's actually 25,750 ~ after tax ~27k, for a 2010 base sport 6mt.

and I could never get an automatic Z, nothing is wrong with it but for a weekend warrior over 50% of the fun comes from rowing your own gears!:yum:

I have a 10 Base Sport 6mt, and after 2+ year owning it, it still puts a smile on my face everyday! I would said wait and see whats next, if you don't like whats next you can always find a great deal on out going model, you could even get a new one for the slightly more, since Nissan just did that price cut on the latest year model with the Japanese Yen been strong.

6MT 09-05-2013 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redglare (Post 2474562)
Hey guys, I've been reading these forums forever now, so much information you guys rock!

I recently sold my 07 z33 6spd and was about to purchase a 370z, found a really low mileage (5k miles 2010 base sport for a reasonable price), the time to pull the trigger is now, but I am hesitating....

Please hear me out before I get a brick to the head. All the recent threads for the next gen Z are popping up, and look I know it's all speculation at this point, but one thing nissan did with all Z car generations (except one anomaly z32tt) was increase performance/ergonomic/design/aesthetics.

So now I am in a dilemma, drop close to 30k for an outgoing gen z34?, sit and wait who knows how long, I am guessing at least another year before they start hitting dealer lots.

I currently have a DD, so the Z was going to be purely a weekend warrior.

and just to clarify, no I am not interested in the current gen or future gen mustang g.:tiphat:

IMHO, you're over thinking this. Do you think there were a lot of 350 owners or potential owners who hesitated on speculation that there'd be a new gen coming in "a few years"?

Just doooooo it!

synolimit 09-05-2013 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redglare (Post 2474902)
it's actually 25,750 ~ after tax ~27k, for a 2010 base sport 6mt.

and I could never get an automatic Z, nothing is wrong with it but for a weekend warrior over 50% of the fun comes from rowing your own gears!:yum:

You do realize you can buy a 2014 z base 6mt for 27k plus tax right??? No way in hell I'd buy a 10 at that price.

After talking with a guy that met the z designer and chief engineer who signed his engine covers, the new z will have a turbo 4 and a v6. Not sure if it's a new motor on the 6. You can bet a new body and the infiniti new line, the Q's, will be what the z will use as always since its infinities body nissan can't afford. Should be couple hundred pounds lighter. The IPL Q60 will have a TT v6 so be prepared for the nismo in 15-16 to get the same :tup:

MadChemist 09-06-2013 07:24 AM

Go for the 370. I wouldn't buy a first year model. Heard of the FRS? Known issues include problems with the fuel injection, tail lights condensing water, camshaft sensor failing, and coolant being used up rapidly. Plus waiting is no fun. You could be driving spiritedly around corner right now.

blackcherry20 09-06-2013 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 2474585)
As nice as it is to wait on the next model my concerns is with Nissan making a hole new engine. That's when recalls happen. Never a good idea to buy the first year model. Let the kinks get worked out.

^^^this.

7speed 09-06-2013 08:41 AM

Just wait....at this point it is all speculation about the next Z. For all we know it might end up being all our hopes and dreams.

There will be plenty of used Z34 in the upcoming months to choose from.

Chteelers 09-06-2013 09:38 AM

I saw wait. Then when the new one comes out you can weigh it against the old (current) version. Plus, if you decide to go with the old (current) version, you'll get a massive price discount

synolimit 09-06-2013 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7speed (Post 2475360)
Just wait....at this point it is all speculation about the next Z. For all we know it might end up being all our hopes and dreams.

There will be plenty of used Z34 in the upcoming months to choose from.

The guy I'm talking about isn't speculation. If it is then he lied about being with the designer, engineer, and something about working with them along with having their signatures after all said and done. People bull **** all the time but this isn't bull **** specially from the owner and creator of a large Nissan organization in ohio.

Redglare 09-06-2013 11:08 AM

Yea I can probably get a 2010 with under 10k miles for significantly less money too if I wait a little longer.

Cbtech 09-06-2013 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gr8-wrx (Post 2474895)
I would say "D." is just fine. Just move on when appropriate. :tup:

Yeah you're right I've just had mine for too long!

sent via my hand puter-ma-jig

OldGuy 09-07-2013 11:12 AM

I bought my '09 Z new in 09 and have had no problems. HOWEVER, my whole first year of ownership was concerned with reading about and checking for ECU whine, new springs for the back hatch, Steering Lock failure and the effects of no oil cooler, all of which were were problems common to the earlier (and especially first year) 370 Z's and subjects of many unhappy posts and complaints to Nissan. Fortunately, I didn't have to rely on my 370Z as a daily driver and I'm retired so I had the time to visit the dealership for attention to these things (and I didn't care about the oil cooler, as I never track or drive my Z that aggressively). But buying a first year model, particularly when there are major changes, can be a pain. By contrast, I just bought my wife a new Volvo. Her 2013 Volvo was in it's third year of production and it's perfect. No recalls or failures in the 2013 run. No problems discussed on the Volvo forums, etc. So I think I'd either buy the 370Z now or figure on waiting for at least the second year of the new model run. Also, the price might come down a bit, as well, after all the first year hoopla and fuss dies down.

Pintsize725 09-07-2013 12:15 PM

Buy the Z34 now. YOLO and all that shiz.............

Tigger 09-07-2013 09:21 PM

it's September. Weekend warrior. Winter around the corner. I'd ride it out and wait. Man. If I could listen to my own advice I would have waited at least long enough to know whether I'd want the new one or not. But hey, can't complain. Every corner is a thrill. An it's my dd. Sooooo.....

wagz 09-07-2013 11:11 PM

Op I am in the same boat as you. Ready to make the move next year, only thing I cannot decide on is whether to wait for the new Z or go 370. After many discussions with friends it was recommended to at least wait and hear out Nissan sales pitch at Detroit this coming January, rumor is that to celebrate Nissan anniversary they will have the new Z concept at the auto show. You should wait until then at least and see if you wish to go with a Z35. Good luck.

venus 09-08-2013 09:48 AM

Other WTF
 
"He who hesitates loses." More historically accurately, "He who hesitates is lost."Applies to much in life but never makes it much easier to make a decision that influences your immediate or distant future. Then there is the Risky Business Tom Cruise quote, “Sometimes you just have to say, What the f*ck.” The statement not the question. I tend to wait too long a miss the window… Yes, I'm in a similar boat with you!!!

What's wrong with purchasing a used now for 10k less and waiting for the renovation? Get SOMETHING fun now!

nmjaxx9 09-08-2013 07:25 PM

Dont wait, you gonna regret it and then your gonna b1tch about it online. :inoutroflpuke:


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