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6spd

I still hate the response of turbo motors, twin or not. I used to think "oh turbo = cool" until I started driving so many, now I can't stand it compared to NA.

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Go take a test drive in a Focus ST (just ignore the toque steer). The torque come in so low, you are hard pressed to tell, just gobs of torque right off the bat (max torque at around 2500 RPM). You get that by using a smaller turbo but it pays for it by running out of air over 6K RPM. With the newer setups, especially twin scroll setups, you can almost eliminate the old legacy problems of earlier setups.

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JungleZ

And I can't stand the 3.7 rough coarse super linear powerband, at least the turbo 4 banger will put you back in your seat a bit and get 20mpg guaranteed.

Chuck33079

Here we go again. How many times do we have to ban this fuckwit before he is permabanned?

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UNKNOWN_370

You can't guarantee 20mpg's. Many hyundai 2.0GT gencoupes get 18mpg's.
Manual Scion FR-S seeing 18mpg's??? How can you guarantee mpg's when the car isnt out yet?

Secondly, if you want to get thrown back in your seat. Shift above 5200rpm. Try 5700rpm. I have no problems throwing my seat back. it's just it takes driving skill to do so in the Z. You gotta harness the power. It's not just there.

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You should be able to get over 20 MPG. The Focus ST gets 23/32MPG @ 252 hp/270lbft. The trade off is that to get that 32 MPG, you have to drive it like your greatgrandma stole it. Once you get your foot in it a fair amount, it's down to 25 MPG. Now, to scale that up to mid 300's, you can probably keep it in the mid 20's at worst. I say the turbo DI engine lets you have an economy car or a sports car, but not both at the same time.

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UNKNOWN_370

And I agree we should. But there are no guarantees. Especially if nissan pulls 330 to 350hp out of a turbo 4. I would hope they can accomplish it. I think they re going directions with fuel efficiency that i never thought nissan would achieve. But they've never impressed in the sports car,efficiency arena.

I tend not to focus on what Ford and other domestc brands are doing as much as what Nissan is doing vs what other japanese brands are doing. In some cases, i will also look at porsche (like with our Z's) But what ford does is not a good indicator of what nissan will do next when i compare both autos philosophy of design and performance.

But i see where you're going and share your viws from the general information your are giving.

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