With VDC on, is it even possible to lose control of the car?
 

I've been pushing the car harder and harder each day, I'm still on base rims/tires and I've been hearing my tires screech lately, when I'm going too fast on a turn or accelerating too fast (Reving quick to 4k, still breaking it in). I also experienced a bit of fishtail when I'm accelerating too hard from a stop on wet grounds.

Not really sure how far I can push it before I regret it. I've been driving FWD cars all my life.

Am I going to kill myself soon?

Lol it's gonna be hard to loose control and crash with it on unless hydroplaning.

If you want to have fun, I suggest grounding the yaw sensor which is usually under the center console. That way VDC will be 100% off by a flick of a switch.

i wonder wats for supper tonight...

vdc only controls acceleration so yes, very possible to lose control with it on. if you havent gotten there yet, your not going fast enough ;)


remember there are only to states of driving, on the gas or on the brakes...... when in doubt just give it more gas!!!!

Hitting the sauce early today OP?

lol what?

:ughdance::ughdance::ughdance:

Time to go harder.

Driving hard with VDC on doesn't mean much. Don't go turning it off and think you can drive like you've been driving though.

Yes it is very possible.

VDC can only do so much to keep the car stable. In some heavy rain and strong winds I would imagine a wreckless driver in a 370z would eventually crash. Even with VDC on.

Actually it does mean a lot. Someone who is driving with VDC on and VDC isn't cutting in means he is driving properly. That statement only holds true if someone doesn't know how to drive and VDC is cutting in all the time.

What if tires screech but the VDC doesn't come on?

Is it caused by the base tires not being good (wide) enough? When I put on my Volks I'm going with 305s at the rear, I'm suspecting this would not happen?

How hard could I be accelerating when I'm keeping it under 4k rpm?

At the end of the day you have a powerful RWD car

On the street given all the variables of the road you can easily lose control even with the VDC on either due to you carrying too much speed into an intersection or you hammering as the wheel is losing grip due to the road surface

I suspect that your tires are probably bald? anyway you want to ease off the line in our cars and allow grip to build otherwise the VDC will limit you every time

VDC does not only control acceleration. It can also brake individual wheels to pull a car that is losing control back in line.

Once, I was taking a corner in the rain and the back end started to slide. The car automatically braked the outside front wheel to keep the car from losing control. It was very neat to feel it working and there is no way that anyone can perform that type of car control manually as there is no way for a person to selectively apply the brakes to only one wheel.

Honestly, I drive with vdc off regardless of the weather because I consider myself a very experienced driver. So, of I do start to lose traction, I find it easier for me to gain control with my experience vs having the computer fighting me to control it. But if you have to ask this question, leave the vdc on lol.

Yes it is possible to lose control with VDC on....
http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...l?#post2433474

I guess id have to drive my car in the rain to experience that LOL, I did not know that, but good to know.:tup:

Nope, the car only has 13xx km on it.

Believe it or not, I am actually capable of gaining control back...under settings where I expect it to happen.

What I am worried about is having the car slip at times and places where I least expect it and catches me off guard.

I downshifted to 3rd today, braked a little past the pedestrian line and then took a hard left today with a Pontiac tailing me and the green left turn arrow was turning yellow. I heard the tires screech at that point, I was going pretty fast, I just don't know what the limit is before the car will spin out.

If the roads are dry, and your tires are not bald, and you aren't doing 70MPH it is pretty hard to totally lose control with VDC on. It might be possible depending on the road but you would have to be doing something incredibly stupid. The whole point of VDC is to keep you from being an idiot once you start to slip.

Knowing this statement to be true, I was still amazed at how true it was when I drove my Z on the track for the first time. That being said, I don't mind a little wheel spin now and again :driving: and I leave VDC off for the most part. The only time it kicks in is the rare occasion when I have forgotten to turn it off.

In the rain I always leave VDC on, and I have had several incidents where I lost traction, whether due to road condition, other drivers, or even that one time where I got stuck out in the rain on damn near bald tires on my way to Discount Tire. VDC and ABLS are doing their best, but they can only correct for so much. There is no substitute for experience - I have practiced evasive maneuvers in huge empty parking lots during the rain more than once. You don't want that first big mistake to be too big.

BTW, I believe ABLS (IIRC, Active Limited Braking System) is still active even with VDC off. It can easily be overcome with medium throttle.

It doesn't have to flash to cut in and to be working. Don't judge your driving on whether it's blinking at you.

VDC off is completely different. If you don't drive with it off, you don't know.

:iagree: but the OP was with VDC on can you lose control....if there is oil or fluids on the roads, VDC will not help! Like what happened to me today!!!
http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...l?#post2433474

Idk what tires are on the base but I never had that problem on my nismo. Even with the stock tires.

I run a 295 pilot supersport on the rear now and i definitely dont get that

I do drive with it off sometimes but I don't feel a need to since it never cuts in unless I **** up or roads suck.

I think I know what VDC cutting in feels like, I have done canyon runs with it off and on, no difference in time, no difference in experience(my first canyon run with VDC off in fact was an accident, I forgot I turned it off and I did the run thinking it was on the entire time)

Can your experience brake each wheel individually…?? :rolleyes:

wait, weren't you the one that couldn't shift your AT correctly? or was that someone else crying about shifting D to N or something...?

What…?? Someone bought an AT and ask the dealer "where's the clutch…!!??"

:wtf2:

:wtf2:

:rofl2: Hey man it could've happened to anyone.

Yes.





LMAO!!

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:icon17: true that. dogs and girlfriends dont help.

I still say it's completely different. You can pretty much floor it with VDC on with no worries about spinning out.

I pretend there is clutch in our Acura AT. Then I brake check every car behind me.

This is one of those threads that makes you just laugh.

dude..... how many foot do you have…????

:bowrofl::bowrofl:

http://uploads.neatorama.com/wp-cont...Rubble-Car.jpg

Not possible. I banged a U-ie today going 140, and vdc didn't kick in.

The 350z 2003 has more torque than any 350z/370z ever release....Nissan never told you they lightened the car in all the models just the fully loaded models vs fully loaded models... cause my base 350z with just the limited slip ( enthusiast model2003) weighs the same or less than the 370z base with sports package... 2003 was a beast on torque. I would never own any z with vdc... FREEDOM!!!! of course Nissan had three recalls on the tranny's after the 2003 and reduce the torque.. go figure. p.o.s. tranny and warping syncros...

Yes.

o Yeah definitely possible, but unless you are being stupid, it probably wont happen.

Think about it, go around a hairpin on a canyon road at 80mph. what do you think will happen? haha

i'm laughing now... =) thanks. VDC does cut off acceleration around corners. just not 100%. well I know that for a fact on the 350z,.. reason I owned an enthusiast 350z (traction control off button) (not vdc off button) big diff. didn't read whole thread.. don't care. bought base model 370z with sports package (trac control off button) I like only mechanicals no computers...

even with vdc off you don't have full control. It's been said in many reviews.