So many of these guys must be some how bionic. At least their ears anyway. To hear over and over how they can estimate and predict everything about an engine they know nothing about with their ears is just AMAZING! I guess maybe I am just jealous that I need a timing system to be able to tell. Oh well that or a rear view mirror if we are comparing the Z to mustangs or Camaros.....

How can you even compare a 400whp to a 350hp at the crank? sorry but you sounded like some kinda ign%%@*t! :icon18:

I said satisfying, and as an aside, fast. lol. It didn't help that it was FWD and had 225 tires, and the Nismo is RWD with 285 tires. Obviously the 370 seems very tame because of this. I'm just sad, and expressing it, that's all. Twin turbo please lol. 370ZX

Nick, here's older pictures of the car:
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showt...=%5BEquinox%5D

And mods...
'07 MS3 GT, Black SOLD
Bolt-ons: Xede EMS(18psi), Ported and Polished KO4 Turbo, Clipped Turbine Wheel, Larger Billet Compressor Wheel, Corksport FMIC, PG Exhaust Manifold, CP-E Downpipe back (no cats) exhaust, Forge Bypass Valve, TWM Short Shifter w/ solid bushings, TRZ Rear Motor Mount
Rice: 18" Volk TE37 Time Attacks(Black and Red), ProSports Boost Gauge, AEM UEGO AFR Gauge, Lotek Triple Dash Pod, Optima Yellow-top Drycell, AutoEXE Shift Knob, A'PEXi Turbo Timer, Red Valve Cover, Shaved Mazdaspeed Emblem, Shaved Side-moldings

It's the Xede EMS that added 80whp by itself. :)

That's a sick mod list for the ms3. Looked like it was a great car. Just turbo the 370z and I'm sure you'll be happier :-P

this thread was kinda helpfull for me ,
the real true opinon came out from all partys
now it narrows down for me , either the 2010 evox or 2010 370z
same price range but 2 different world of cars..

now i have a 350z and will keep it even after the new buy
so...why 2z in the garage? thats the feeling im geting right now

Stop comparing the Z and Evo total oppisites
4 or 2 door (do you really neeed/want the back seat/
price range is nowhere the same unless your taking a loaded Z to a base Evo
and for performance Z is more fun to tune (my opinion)

I've owned both and here's my input on EVO and Z

EVO-
The Good.
1 Easy to mod for power.
2 AWD for snow.
3 Seats 5, you can get away with this as a family with your wife.. ;)
4 That BOV sound woooshhhh woooshhhh is priceless..
The Bad.
1 Stupid wheel problems, you danage one, then you gotta replace all 4 togther so that they will have same size and won't damage the LSDs.
2 Tubro lag is very bad with a 2.0L size. There are 2.3 or 2.4 stroker kits, but cost a fortune..
3 (Might not be a bad) You site staright up in the car.
4 Problems caused by mods...more lag, leaks,...

Turbo, 4 wheel drive....I took the car eveywhere, camping trip, skiing, work. It's really nice when it was stock. A year later, I got used of the stock power and started adding parts. I'm sure you all know how it goes on mods, especially with turbo cars. You change one engien part, it will lead you to change another...intake, exhaust, cams, bov, boost controller, larger injector, intercooler, spark plugs, wires, clutch/flywheel, dyno tuning, I even went as far as adding a Alky Kit (a second fuel tank that holds alchol+methnoal, a control module, and a injector that you tap into the intake, when boosting it sparys into engine to mix with the air/fuel mixture and it would cool down the engine internal, and thus allowing higher boost.) It was boosting at 28psi w/about 340HP/TQ to the wheel..........well, the car became very very fast, but undriveable as a day to day car.....tubro lag was very bad (nothing from under 3800rpm), clutch was heavy, and the exhaust sound was killing my hearing.......
The end result of that was I enjoy it less, from 6 days a week to may be only Friday night (lets not get into that =) ).


370z - RWD, nice flat TQ, lower to ground.
I just got the car a week ago, so I don't have too much thoughts yet, but this is what I come up with so far.

The Good.
1 V6 power. I can drive in 6th at local speed.
2 Nice low end power
3 Overall easy to drive
4 Pretty tach gauges

The Bad.
1 Fat wheels pick up rocks too easily
2 Low front end, gotta slowly roll over bumps and ramps
3 Blind spots..OMG I can't see a thing! lol.

I still breaking in the z right now, so I have to drive it really slow. However I can feel that it wants to go and don't like to be shifted at 2000rpm (especiall 1st gear) =) I think because it's V6, it much easier to drive daily. I'll have to wait till i'm done w/ break-in to find out more about it...

Alright, I'm late to the party..... but did mook say he "double clutches"? seriously? these transmissions have synchros, isn't double clutching just for tanks and farm equipment because there's no synchros so you have to match the gears more closely?? I mean I know it's cool when Dom says "you were granny shifting instead of double clutching like you should..." but isn't that just movie hype? Are there any track drivers out there "double-clutching"?

Don't think so...

:iagree: :bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl:

Does anybody find anything seriously wrong about this post? I wouldn't call 400whp on a fwd exactly satisfying. It's more in a terribly misguided category in my opinion.

who cares about mazda if it's not an FD ?

I quit reading your post right there. get better sources to back up your BS :gtfo2:

yeah I kept driving it here and there and it kind of grew on me, so I only have three gripes left:
1) why the hell can't I disconnect the traction control completely in a sports car(no, the button does not kill all the gadgetry)? Especially in a car as accomplished as the Z. In something as psychotic as an m coupe, maybe. But the Z? Michael Schumacher himself noted it's safety (he is actually the Stig in Top Gear reviews).
2) having one wheel spin on hard corner exits sucks.
3) engine sound is a mood killer

Once again you don't have your facts right.
1) Yes actually traction is COMPLETELY OFF on 370Z when you push the off button. (he is actually the Stig in Top Gear reviews) Wrong! That's what top gear would have you believe.
2) That's why I didn't buy a mustang or a camaro. My vlsd is working quite alright for me on my sport package touring.
3) I actually find the BOV sound a mood killer.

You should really read more posts then write because you have a lot to learn kid.