We need to make all Noobz do a search for "VDC off" on here.

I took his comment to be correct. Its like a bike, in a turn if you being to slide out and close the throttle the bike will snap back. it over steers to the opposite side and "high sides you off about 5-10-20 feet into the air. Same goes for a car, slide, close, it snaps and slides to the other side. To me that says "lift off oversteer, to other side that you were over steering on."

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Dang, Thats a bad turnout for havin some fun... At least you guys are ok. Been working at a collision center for years and it would have to be alot of damage to total out a newer Z. For instance you would need about 24k in damage to total out a 35,000.00 dollar car. Airbag deployment has nothing to do with it. Most companies have a 70-80 percent threshold to be reached before they total your vehicle. I have seen some go as much as 85 percent of the value of the vehicle. Weve put in new frames, engines, airbags, you name it. State Farm however will total one before they put in a new frame. We get a few trucks that get totaled from time to time because of this. Just contact your insurance company and choose a reputable collision center.

OP, it takes some balls to admit that here on the forum. It really sucks and I hope you get it squared away asap. I totalled my '08 350Z from turning vdc off and trying to show off...It's a life lesson learned. It sucks, costs quite a lot of dollars but in the end you know to either take it to the track for hpde events and learn the art of driving fast, in a controlled manor or not to try that stuff on the streets.
tl;dr Life lesson learned,learn from it and don't repeat.

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side note, Ol Lorenzo had some bad highsides in his rookie year.:eek2:

Lift off oversteer is a mid/rear engine car issue. When you lift off the throttle, the weight transfer moves forward, giving the front tires grip, but also makes the rear light. With less grip on the rear tires, a mid/rear car begins to rotate it's rear biased weight around the now grippy front tires. This is what made 70s and 80s (90s probably too) Porsche 911s treacherous to drive.

Tragic story, but at least no one is hurt, ego aside.

Next time, it'd be better to find a BIG empty lot with no islands or poles to hit. Cars will always magically steer towards those.

OP did your side curtain air bags go off? if not you could always look in the FS threads for some one selling OEM seats and just replace that then replace all of the wheel/drivetrain parts you broke :ugh2:

Lift off oversteer is an issue specific to mid/rear cars, but every car can do it. Especially if you put a stiff roll bar on the rear, combine it with crappy tires and drive on wet roads. But if you do that, then you are just looking for it aren't you?

Lol. Thank god I never have! Once all most but my boot caught the tank, my body rubbed the ground, but the bike stabalized and went straight and I just used it to climb back on and up. The guy behind me after the race was S-ing bricks when he came over to talk to me haha

Yep, it's an ineherent dynamic to anything with a good bit of weight on the rear axle, but can be dialed in on most anything.

Really, anything that's reasonably well-balanced will exhibit some oversteer if the throttle is lifted at the limit.

I used to turn off the traction control before I had even backed out of the driveway. I went through my rear tires too quickly. Now with new PSS installed at all four corners I leave it on. Most of the time.

Ya I still make sure to press vdc off right after I turn the car on. Especially when it's raining. When you have even a decent amount of skill (I by no means am exceptionally skillful) with low traction maneuvers, things are safer when you have the option of right foot steering.
Granted you have to be aware you don't have vdc and adjust your driving habits accordingly. But vdc must be off in order to conduct defensive driving techniques.
I don't want people to be reading this and thinking they're safer with vdc off. Go practice and take some lessons if possible. Know your limitations

Showing off by drifting or power sliding is the number 1 way to crash your car. Besides, that's showing off driver skill than the car itself (which is meant for the track). Show off how well it grips and carves the road (with vdc on), which IMO is far safer than power sliding.

Depending on who your insurer is you may not get a premium increase. I've replaced several broken windows over the years, had my Mustang 5.0 stolen twice, wrecked once during the theft, plus my kid wrecked her Jeep Cherokee when she was 16 and they never raised the premiums. Probably because we had no citations and the accidents/thefts were far apart. If your record's clean up until now it's probably best to go ahead and report it. We're with AAA by the way and have been with it since college, a looong time ago.