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Kip 07-31-2013 03:35 PM

Nismo air system/Nismo Pipes
 
Hi,
I am new to forum. I just bought a gun metal grey 2013 370. Standard. It had 150 miles on it. Dealer drove it down from Hickory NC to Raleigh NC. Last Z I had was a 1978 280, back in 1982.

My question is, I've been told I'd get better gas mileage with an upgrade to Nismo Pipes and Nismo intake. I know it'd sound better. Also I don't want to void the warranty. For around 2 grand. I don't want to me it crazy fast or anything. Guy at Nissan also stated it would bump my hp up to around 350 and would be faster than the Nismo due to the weight difference. Any experts around?

Thanks,
Kip

UNKNOWN_370 07-31-2013 03:58 PM

I would do research in the intake and exhaust section. He just trying to sell expensive nismo products. Nothing wrong with nismo parts. But you can get a better exhaust for $500 less and much lighter. Intakes. I have an opinion that is not popular so I won't even go there...

Will you get better gas mileage doing breather mods? Only if you geezer-drive it. Intake and exhaust section will be your best friend with the questions you ask.

http://www.the370z.com/intake-exhaust/

Mt Tam I am 07-31-2013 04:49 PM

Welcome.

Regardless of what happens in a test environment, as soon as you hear those intakes, you want to hear ever more. Your milage goes to hell because of this. And it is totally worth it.

Same song, different verse with CBE.

Enjoy the new Z. I too had the '78 Z. This one is better.

luigi90210 07-31-2013 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Kip (Post 2427222)
Hi,
I am new to forum. I just bought a gun metal grey 2013 270. Standard. It had 150 miles on it. Dealer drove it down from Hickory NC to Raleigh NC. Last Z I had was a 1978 280, back in 1982.

My question is, I've been told I'd get better gas mileage with an upgrade to Nismo Pipes and Nismo intake. I know it'd sound better. Also I don't want to void the warranty. For around 2 grand. I don't want to me it crazy fast or anything. Guy at Nissan also stated it would bump my hp up to around 350 and would be faster than the Nismo due to the weight difference. Any experts around?

Thanks,
Kip

IMO unless you're buying a full Nismo 370z exhaust(not the Nismo Stuned exhaust) i wouldnt even bother with a nismo exhaust

as far as intakes goes, the Nismo intake is practically the Injen intake with a bypass valve(to ensure the motor wont suck up water if you happen to submerge your normal filters) but it isnt really worth the $600 price tag associated with it

now if you want cheap power, the factory air box is already a cold air system so you can just do drop in filters and HPS Post MAF tubes and make about the same as most of the CAI out there

Guard Dad 08-01-2013 01:59 AM

Forget improved mileage, you just won't see it.

If you want a power bump for a good price I would suggest the stock exhaust from the Nismo Z. It has a better sound, larger pipes, nice tips and perfect fit. Clean used ones should run you $400 on the private party "parts for sale" section of this forum. This exhaust is well built from stainless steel so it will last longer than the car. It is worth maybe 8-12 horsepower, not as much as some of the aftermarket units but good bang for the buck.

As for intakes, I went with the Stillen G3 long tube intake. It is CARB 50 state legal which means it is certified to meet or exceed factory emissions specs and is good for about 18 horsepower. It is beautifully made out of polished aluminum. My dealer has been fine with it for the last 2.5 years.

The two together should get you to 350+ horsepower at the flywheel for a total of about $1,000 if you do the install yourself.

luigi90210 08-01-2013 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Guard Dad (Post 2427930)
Forget improved mileage, you just won't see it.

If you want a power bump for a good price I would suggest the stock exhaust from the Nismo Z. It has a better sound, larger pipes, nice tips and perfect fit. Clean used ones should run you $400 on the private party "parts for sale" section of this forum. This exhaust is well built from stainless steel so it will last longer than the car. It is worth maybe 8-12 horsepower, not as much as some of the aftermarket units but good bang for the buck.

As for intakes, I went with the Stillen G3 long tube intake. It is CARB 50 state legal which means it is certified to meet or exceed factory emissions specs and is good for about 18 horsepower. It is beautifully made out of polished aluminum. My dealer has been fine with it for the last 2.5 years.

The two together should get you to 350+ horsepower at the flywheel for a total of about $1,000 if you do the install yourself.

carb just means its cali legal, everyone outside of cali could care less about carb honestly and having the Nismo 370z, it does NOT sound any different than a regular, sure its design is better than a regular 370z exhaust since it is a true dual setup but as far as sound goes, it isn't any different from a stock 370z

if OP really wants to save money, OP could get the Topspeed Pro1 Exhaust, it should make about the same as every other exhaust out there since its a true dual 2.5in setup although there are no dynos i have seen for this exhaust

Zteve 08-01-2013 07:34 AM

not worth it IMO unless you like the NISMO stuff, then go for it

C4Calvin 08-01-2013 11:33 AM

Is there any difference between the Nismo intake system and the Base? I thought they were both the same.

I just use K&N drop-in filters in my Z.

luigi90210 08-01-2013 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by C4Calvin (Post 2428381)
Is there any difference between the Nismo intake system and the Base? I thought they were both the same.

I just use K&N drop-in filters in my Z.

Well on the nismo 370z the intakes are the same. But nismo "makes" cold air intakes and sells them through their website.

Its basically an injen cai with a bypass valve and its painted black and has nismo on it instead of injen.

kenchan 08-01-2013 04:32 PM

In other words, just put a Nismo logo on your base and you're set!

Kip 08-01-2013 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luigi90210 (Post 2427469)
IMO unless you're buying a full Nismo 370z exhaust(not the Nismo Stuned exhaust) i wouldnt even bother with a nismo exhaust

as far as intakes goes, the Nismo intake is practically the Injen intake with a bypass valve(to ensure the motor wont suck up water if you happen to submerge your normal filters) but it isnt really worth the $600 price tag associated with it

now if you want cheap power, the factory air box is already a cold air system so you can just do drop in filters and HPS Post MAF tubes and make about the same as most of the CAI out there

Help me a bit, HPS Post MAF tubes? Are these a particular type of exhaust? I do want a little more sound, but not the dropped Honda big pipe rat sound.

GTLAW 08-01-2013 04:46 PM

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I have to fully disagree!! The S-tune NISMO CBE from Japan is very high quality exhaust system and does not drone like many other aftermarket systems. The NISMO is full SS with 36 month warranty when installed by Nissan dealer when the car is new.

The pipes are bigger and you will get a nice bump in Hp also it's lighter then OEM.

The Nismo intake system is nice because you don't have to cut into your car frame as with the STILLEN Gen 3 junk!!

Go NISMO!! Attachment 73865Attachment 73866


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luigi90210 08-01-2013 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kip (Post 2428788)
Help me a bit, HPS Post MAF tubes? Are these a particular type of exhaust? I do want a little more sound, but not the dropped Honda big pipe rat sound.

HPS Post MAF Tubes are a replacement part of the intake, you know the rubber accordion part of the intake after the airbox, the post maf tubes pretty much replace that with smooth silicone tubes, those with K&N Drop-in filters net anywhere from 10whp to 14whp dyno proven(search the forums if you want to see them)
they also do not change the sound of the car
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Originally Posted by GTLAW (Post 2428798)
I have to fully disagree!! The S-tune NISMO CBE from Japan is very high quality exhaust system and does not drone like many other aftermarket systems. The NISMO is full SS with 36 month warranty when installed by Nissan dealer when the car is new.

The pipes are bigger and you will get a nice bump in Hp also it's lighter then OEM.

The Nismo intake system is nice because you don't have to cut into your car frame and STIlleN gen 3 is junk!!

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and i fully disagree with you, the nismo stune exhaust is only good for about 7whp while the Stillen and other CBE systems are good for 15-18whp

ya its lighter but so are other aftermarket exhaust systems and those are cheaper and give you more power and the Nismo Intake is literally the Injen CAI with a Bypass valve you could buy the Injen CAI for $100 less than a nismo intake and gain the same power

Nismo parts are a great example of paying for the name and not the part

kenchan 08-01-2013 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTLAW (Post 2428798)
I have to fully disagree!! The S-tune NISMO CBE from Japan is very high quality exhaust system and does not drone like many other aftermarket systems. The NISMO is full SS with 36 month warranty when installed by Nissan dealer when the car is new.

The pipes are bigger and you will get a nice bump in Hp also it's lighter then OEM.

The Nismo intake system is nice because you don't have to cut into your car frame and STIlleN gen 3 is junk!!

Go NISMO!! Attachment 73865Attachment 73866


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:icon18: :tup:

kenchan 08-01-2013 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by luigi90210 (Post 2428903)
HPS Post MAF Tubes are a replacement part of the intake, you know the rubber accordion part of the intake after the airbox, the post maf tubes pretty much replace that with smooth silicone tubes, those with K&N Drop-in filters net anywhere from 10whp to 14whp dyno proven(search the forums if you want to see them)
they also do not change the sound of the car

and i fully disagree with you, the nismo stune exhaust is only good for about 7whp while the Stillen and other CBE systems are good for 15-18whp

ya its lighter but so are other aftermarket exhaust systems and those are cheaper and give you more power and the Nismo Intake is literally the Injen CAI with a Bypass valve you could buy the Injen CAI for $100 less than a nismo intake and gain the same power

Nismo parts are a great example of paying for the name and not the part


only you is serious...

luigi90210 08-01-2013 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2428929)
only you is serious...

yes, intakes and exhaust systems are very serious matters

forget work or family, if someone doesnt get the right intake, it can literally mean life or death

GTLAW 08-01-2013 09:34 PM

Omg!! I would not take Stillen CBE if someone gave it away lol. Go ask anyone how bad there Stillen CBE has nothing but tons of rust in it lol. Go be my guest!!

The NISMO S-tune will not rust and will last for many years to come!!

Please don't even try and compare Stillen cheap made rusted exhaust to NISMO who is made my Fujitsubo!

SMDH


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Chuck33079 08-01-2013 09:39 PM

I was working on my buddy's G37 last weekend with a Stillen cbe. No rust to be found.

GTLAW 08-01-2013 09:45 PM

Stillen rust issues.

http://m.myg37.com/forums/showthread.php?t=243140


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Chuck33079 08-01-2013 09:49 PM

Yes, it can happen. I was just pointing out that you said to "ask anyone with a Stillen cbe", and I was just under a car with one and no rust less than a week ago.

luigi90210 08-02-2013 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by GTLAW (Post 2429091)
Omg!! I would not take Stillen CBE if someone gave it away lol. Go ask anyone how bad there Stillen CBE has nothing but tons of rust in it lol. Go be my guest!!

The NISMO S-tune will not rust and will last for many years to come!!

Please don't even try and compare Stillen cheap made rusted exhaust to NISMO who is made my Fujitsubo!

SMDH


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uuuuhhh, that is a mighty bold claim you are making, you better have some proof to back up that claim...

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...jpg?1307463786

GTLAW 08-02-2013 08:45 AM

FUJITSUBO Official site

THE NISMO S-tune! Trust me you will love it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW09ghVqwLY

luigi90210 08-02-2013 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GTLAW (Post 2429549)
FUJITSUBO Official site

THE NISMO S-tune! Trust me you will love it!

370z Nismo S Tune Exhaust - YouTube

sounds like a stock exhaust, i think my nismo 370z's stock exhaust is louder

Chuck33079 08-02-2013 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTLAW (Post 2429549)
FUJITSUBO Official site

THE NISMO S-tune! Trust me you will love it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW09ghVqwLY

That's with HFCs, so just the cat back isnt going to sound like that. The S Tune costs $1700. There's a lot of better options out there for that kind of money. Options that give you much more power than the S Tune.

dmhenderson 08-02-2013 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTLAW (Post 2428798)
I have to fully disagree!! The S-tune NISMO CBE from Japan is very high quality exhaust system and does not drone like many other aftermarket systems. The NISMO is full SS with 36 month warranty when installed by Nissan dealer when the car is new.

The pipes are bigger and you will get a nice bump in Hp also it's lighter then OEM.

The Nismo intake system is nice because you don't have to cut into your car frame and STIlleN gen 3 is junk!!

Go NISMO!! Attachment 73865Attachment 73866


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o_O

What in the heck is going on in this thread? Generally speaking, JDM <fill in the blank> generally isn't worth the cash for performance gains alone but if you want ~JDM~ stuff, by all means I guess.
My Stillen G3 intakes were on the car for two years with no rust whatsoever. They're off now but only because I went FI.

Having had a base 370z exhaust, a Nismo exhaust and a Fast Intentions exhaust, I can tell you that Nismo/base do not hold a candle to the F.I. system. The "S-tune" looks identical to my old Nismo exhaust so... yeah. I guess I could be missing something.

dmhenderson 08-02-2013 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by luigi90210 (Post 2429808)
sounds like a stock exhaust, i think my nismo 370z's stock exhaust is louder

Sounds like the base nismo exhaust with the raspy berk HFCs to me.

UNKNOWN_370 08-02-2013 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2429836)
That's with HFCs, so just the cat back isnt going to sound like that. The S Tune costs $1700. There's a lot of better options out there for that kind of money. Options that give you much more power than the S Tune.

the dealership straight offered me an s tune for $1143 but I'm still not sure it's worth it compared to FI. Stillen just doesn't do much in the sound dept. Yes it has more depth, but no volume increase whatsoever which makes it boring imho.

Chuck33079 08-02-2013 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2429881)
the dealership straight offered me an s tune for $1143 but I'm still not sure it's worth it compared to FI. Stillen just doesn't do much in the sound dept. Yes it has more depth, but no volume increase whatsoever which makes it boring imho.

That's a good deal. i just pulled the price off of Z1's website.

dmhenderson 08-02-2013 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2429881)
the dealership straight offered me an s tune for $1143 but I'm still not sure it's worth it compared to FI. Stillen just doesn't do much in the sound dept. Yes it has more depth, but no volume increase whatsoever which makes it boring imho.

I'd be really sure they were selling you an S-Tune exhaust and not someone's nismo exhaust that got pulled off for something else during a sale. I absolutely would not put it past a dealership to do this.

luigi90210 08-02-2013 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dmhenderson (Post 2429858)
o_O

What in the heck is going on in this thread? Generally speaking, JDM <fill in the blank> generally isn't worth the cash for performance gains alone but if you want ~JDM~ stuff, by all means I guess.
My Stillen G3 intakes were on the car for two years with no rust whatsoever. They're off now but only because I went FI.

Having had a base 370z exhaust, a Nismo exhaust and a Fast Intentions exhaust, I can tell you that Nismo/base do not hold a candle to the F.I. system. The "S-tune" looks identical to my old Nismo exhaust so... yeah. I guess I could be missing something.

the S-tune exhaust is not a true dual setup like the nismo 370z exhaust(this one has an H-Pipe instead of the y pipe) but basically its the same thing as the base exhaust

all of the nissan exhaust systems though are really quiet and are pretty restrictive when compared to other exhaust systems out there for the Z

dmhenderson 08-02-2013 04:12 PM

Agree with you there. I didn't see the midpipe on it was just looking at the muffler setup and it looked identical.

Regardless, there are better options but hey, exhausts are a matter of personal taste so do whatever.

GTLAW 08-03-2013 08:58 AM

F.I looks like poop from the rear. The S-tune is not being loud it's about Quality!!

The Amuse CBE for the 370 does not have Hpip or Ypip. But sounds sexy and is not to loud. But again sounds like most of you are trying to turn your 370 into a Mustang anyways.

Do what you want but, but having peace of mind is worth more to me then having something loud.




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dmhenderson 08-03-2013 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTLAW (Post 2430666)
F.I looks like poop from the rear. The S-tune is not being loud it's about Quality!!

This must be why you're running a fast intentions exhaust in your signature and I don't think many other people share your opinion that it "looks like poop from the rear" but then again, you appear to be trolling so whatever.

Quote:

The Amuse CBE for the 370 does not have Hpip or Ypip. But sounds sexy and is not to loud.
What? Who said anything about the Amuse CBE? I didn't even know this existed for the 370 (I know it does for the 350) but I don't even want to see the pricetag on that.

Quote:

But again sounds like most of you are trying to turn your 370 into a Mustang anyways.
Dumb baseless/strawman argument.

Quote:

Do what you want
You should have stopped here.

Chuck33079 08-03-2013 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmhenderson (Post 2430710)
This must be why you're running a fast intentions exhaust in your signature and I don't think many other people share your opinion that it "looks like poop from the rear" but then again, you appear to be trolling so whatever.

Beat me to it. I'm not the biggest fan of the canister look of the FI from behind, so I had Tony ceramic coat the mufflers black. Problem solved. More power, better sound and still less than the S Tune exhaust. And I've never seen a single negative comment about FI quality. It's pretty much the benchmark for build quality. The only negative thing about FI is the wait time, and that's to be expected with something like this.

And I'm not sure how buying an exhaust that provides more power and a better sound at a lower price point than the S Tune is trying to turn a 370 into a Mustang.

dmhenderson 08-03-2013 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2430736)
Beat me to it. I'm not the biggest fan of the canister look of the FI from behind.

I actually like the way it looks on the Nismo. Fits the rear bumper very well.

Chuck33079 08-03-2013 10:52 AM

It's a better design that way. Less bends always makes more power. I just wanted more of a sleeper look, and bright shiny SS cans doesn't do that. With the cans blacked out, they pretty much disappear unless you know what you're looking at.

dmhenderson 08-03-2013 10:54 AM

If I had unlimited money, I'd probably run ART pipes, Z1 momentum headers, some sort of custom X-pipe and a GThaus Meisterschaft axle-back

Chuck33079 08-03-2013 11:00 AM

I don't think you're going to be hurting for power the way your exhaust is now.

dmhenderson 08-03-2013 01:21 PM

Yeah I just like the sound of the GThaus

GTLAW 08-04-2013 09:52 AM

My sig was very old and I no longer have that setup. You have a sports car made in japan! So when you start putting parts made in the US on it, it changes the character of the car. I don't expect anyone to understand that, because we on a car form and most people just put what ever they see fit on there car that is loud. F.I makes good CBE! but it's not JDM quality! and the NISMO is!

So if you want to keep calling me names that' fine but again people fear what they don't understand! that's how most people show ignorance!


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