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FricFrac 07-31-2009 01:08 AM

Check it out - CF pillars cheap!
 
3M has an amazing new product out that looks like CF. It has a weave and everything. You really have to see this stuff in person to believe it. Just had my pillars done. Unfortunatley I had to take the pics in the dark with a flash but you get the idea :) I asked the installer about doing up kits for a DIY.....

I was just over to show a friend of mine who is a Z nut the car for the first time and he asked if the CF was stock. I had to tell him no and its not CF :)

http://www.the370z.com/attachment.ph...3&d=1249019909

SpawnAeroJohn 07-31-2009 01:18 AM

Noice! I still like the real cf though :P

http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/t...m/SSPX1827.jpg

FricFrac 07-31-2009 01:24 AM

Yea but for people who just want CF for the look why pay for real CF? I can understand using it for its intended purpose of light weight and strength replacement parts. But if you are just slapping it over top of another part instead of replacing it....

tonmed123 07-31-2009 01:30 AM

SPAWN is the way to GO!!!! SPAWNSPAWNSPAWN!!!!! I cant wait to get my pillars.

SpawnAeroJohn 07-31-2009 01:30 AM

Ours are replacements but I do see your point. But the 3M stuff does look pretty noice!

Sashimi 07-31-2009 02:58 AM

Hmmm I was thinking of blacking out the front, but maybe I can cover it with CF tape, got to look into it we'll see.

Skyline around here did it's trunk with it
http://www.the370z.com/attachments/n...g-dsc_0388.jpg

Shunya 07-31-2009 04:07 AM

so how much was it done for?

Sashimi 07-31-2009 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shunya (Post 131885)
so how much was it done for?

Are you asking me? I'm not sure I forgot to ask him, I'll probobly text him tomorrow if I remember. maybe a lot since the job was done really well, it could easily fool anyone who doesn't know what real CF looks like, even I was fooled, I saw it and I was thinking "this doesn't look like any CF I've seen before, but it looks great!!"

I just remember him saying his exhaust was around 10K. and I thought the Zele exhaust was expensive!!!

Cjanik 07-31-2009 07:55 AM

the real CF stuff looks soooo much better than the fake, it has to do with the contrast with the light shining on it. I love it.
A trained eye can pick up fake to real pretty easily.

2theextreme 07-31-2009 08:05 AM

At first I didn't think I liked the CF pillar look but after seeing these pics I'm sold! Gonna have to add it to my list of upgrades!

Forrest 07-31-2009 04:10 PM

enlighten me, why do we want or like CF?

i am kind of confused.

Mike@Blackline 07-31-2009 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forrest (Post 132302)
enlighten me, why do we want or like CF?

i am kind of confused.

every piece of carbon fiber ive ever owned i painted over, only exception being engine bay kits

FricFrac 07-31-2009 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cjanik (Post 131917)
the real CF stuff looks soooo much better than the fake, it has to do with the contrast with the light shining on it. I love it.
A trained eye can pick up fake to real pretty easily.

Which is what is cool about this stuff. Its textured like CF so it changes with the angle of lighting just like CF.

kdoske 08-01-2009 10:37 PM

yeah i have seen it in person. It really does look pretty close to a real Dry Carbon mold.

fly yellow 08-01-2009 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forrest (Post 132302)
enlighten me, why do we want or like CF?

i am kind of confused.

Because it is like basket weaving for men.

SpawnAeroJohn 08-01-2009 10:47 PM

We (some of us) get carbon fiber products for either or both of the 2 of the following reasons.

1. Its lighter and gives us weight reduction which will allow us to perform better

and or

2. Its appealing to the eye to many and most just like it for its neat appearance.

For those who want it for reason 2 is just for looks. To some eyes it makes the car look sharper / more agressive just like anything else such as a paint job or a new shift know or sport pedals.

Simple as that.

We make them for those who like them.

NXTAZEE 08-01-2009 11:08 PM

I would consider the film as an inexpensive way to cover the very soft and very easily scratched pillars. That single stage paint really scratches easily. I think it will look awesome with PG paint. I'm thinking of doing the fangs as well when I get my Z.

Shunya 08-01-2009 11:40 PM

actually it doesn't look too bad :) i think it looks decent.

FricFrac 08-02-2009 12:14 AM

The pillars are plastic. They almost look like black glass but they are plastic....

Pushing_Tin 08-02-2009 03:26 AM

So is that piece made specifically for the Z, or was it cut to fit?

355890 08-02-2009 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FricFrac (Post 131684)
3M has an amazing new product out that looks like CF. It has a weave and everything. You really have to see this stuff in person to believe it. Just had my pillars done. Unfortunatley I had to take the pics in the dark with a flash but you get the idea :) I asked the installer about doing up kits for a DIY.....

I was just over to show a friend of mine who is a Z nut the car for the first time and he asked if the CF was stock. I had to tell him no and its not CF :)

http://www.the370z.com/attachment.ph...3&d=1249019909

Where did you purchase?

Shunya 08-02-2009 11:41 AM

I have friends that also does this :)
maybe I'll get some guys to pre-cut some and see if you guys want it.
but gotta check it out with them 1st :P

RCZ 08-02-2009 12:40 PM

I am at a loss for words. Its scary that 3M saw enough demand for fake carbon fiber to develop this. I guess this thread is proof that they have a good idea in their hands.

spearfish25 08-02-2009 01:05 PM

I'd tape my B pillars with that in a heartbeat if it has any longevity and sun resistance. What's the product number, where do you order it, and how much does it cost?

batman_4 08-02-2009 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 355890 (Post 134385)
where did you purchase?

+1

Quote:

Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 134679)
i'd tape my b pillars with that in a heartbeat if it has any longevity and sun resistance. What's the product number, where do you order it, and how much does it cost?

+1

Shunya 08-02-2009 01:09 PM

^even if it's not sun proof you can always replace it i guess. should be that much in cost.

spearfish25 08-02-2009 02:18 PM

Yeah, while I like the SpawnAeroJohn products, justifying $200 for a set of stick on CF B Pillars is pretty tough. I'd have to hand my wife my balls along with a hammer if she found those arriving in the mail.

A look alike CF tape that will cover all the little nicks in my plastic B pillars would be very welcome in my book though.

Shunya 08-02-2009 02:39 PM

then just get overlays then u save your balls too :)

Pushing_Tin 08-02-2009 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 134595)
I am at a loss for words. Its scary that 3M saw enough demand for fake carbon fiber to develop this. I guess this thread is proof that they have a good idea in their hands.

Why is it scary? Both of my pillars have scratches on them and this would be a cheap way to cover them up.

Please elaborate......

antennahead 08-02-2009 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 134835)
Yeah, while I like the SpawnAeroJohn products, justifying $200 for a set of stick on CF B Pillars is pretty tough. I'd have to hand my wife my balls along with a hammer if she found those arriving in the mail.
A look alike CF tape that will cover all the little nicks in my plastic B pillars would be very welcome in my book though.


"I'd have to hand my wife my balls along with a hammer if she found those arriving in the mail"



That was funny!!! :tiphat:

John

FricFrac 08-04-2009 11:13 AM

I'll ask the guy about doing a kit up. He wrapped mine for the car show but it would be easy enough to have it as an overlay that goes to the edges. He's also done stuff up and hit it with a clear coat to give it a glossier apperarnce. There is also a third option - 3M has a clear film that goes over the Di-Noc film as well but I haven't seen that. I guess it really depends on what look you are going for.

It would be interesting to see if this would work for a front bumper that is covered in rock chips. Instead of repainting you could use the fake CF and give it a CF look while covering the paint chips. I'm assuming something with all the curves of our bumper would require an installer... but for the pillars its too easy for pretty much anyone to install.

I guess the question would be for a kit would you want a more advanced kit where you need a heat gun to wrap the Di-Noc or one that runs up to the edges that is a simple install?

SpawnAeroJohn 08-04-2009 11:21 AM

^IMO That belonges on honda. For small parts its good but to do a whole body panel.... Not looking for a fight! Just my opinion.

FricFrac 08-04-2009 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpawnAeroJohn (Post 137551)
^IMO That belonges on honda. For small parts its good but to do a whole body panel.... Not looking for a fight! Just my opinion.

I'm going to assume you are refering to the front bumper. Sounds like a great idea for those who have bumpers full of chips and are looking to make it look new again with a different look than a respray.

Do you mean a whole body panel like a hood or rear hatch?

355890 08-04-2009 12:32 PM

FRICFRAC - Where did you purchase this 3m tape.

SpawnAeroJohn 08-04-2009 12:41 PM

Yeah. I once saw a flock of hondas who had hood and trunk carbon fiber wraps where you can see the line where the new piece of vinyl starts. Very cheap. If they can wrap panels with out brakes then it would look good.

Caravanshaka 08-04-2009 12:50 PM

lol, seeing the line where they break is like seeing a girl's panty-line and realizing she has granny panties on!

It's just doesn't belong on a good body!

Shunya 08-04-2009 01:00 PM

^lol i like that comparison~!

aniwaise i was never really a huge fan for the CF look. dun dislike it tho
but I've always tend to body color out all my CF parts on my car.
like my ITR most my my exterior is cf but all painted.
i dun like my ITR looking like a panda

Modshack 08-04-2009 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 355890 (Post 134385)
Where did you purchase?


Here's a source:

Neffywrap.com, Home of the Original Neffy Carbon Fiber Wrap

http://neffywrap.com/gallery/thumb.p...sh1.jpg&view=y

RCZ 08-04-2009 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pushing_Tin (Post 135380)
Why is it scary? Both of my pillars have scratches on them and this would be a cheap way to cover them up.

Please elaborate......

sure. Carbon fiber is used to reduce weight for racing applications, not for adding body accents or to cover up scratched surfaces. What is scary to me is that there is so much demand from people who could care less about weight savings and just want it because it looks pretty that a company would spend probably a lot of money to create a material that resembles it. As a matter of fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the demand from pseudo enthusiasts for fake carbon has become greater than that of real carbon for people who actually use it for what it is intended. That's what's scary.

If that doesn't bother you, then it actually looks pretty good and a lot like real carbon!

SpawnAeroJohn 08-04-2009 03:58 PM

Hes my favorite poster ^


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