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nizmo370 06-21-2013 12:24 PM

Anyone come from an RX8 ?
 
Currently own a 2006 rx8 and ive owned it for almost 4 years now. To be honest i never thought i would want another car again cause this car was my dream car but ive had enough of it and the 370z platform has caught my eye for a while now. That and the Evo X.

The power isnt there (currently have low compression on the engine) but even when the engine was healthy it wasnt fast enough for me. Have many small issues here and there such as the trunk not working, the windows making a noise while rolling up, and other little things here and there. I know no car is perfect but i would think NIssan would be better quality.

I want inputs from people whove previously owned an rx8 and now have an evo x. DO you like it better ? Do you regret it ? What do you miss about your rx8?


Probably will be my summer car and i willl buy a beater car for winter. Im still young not married no kids yet. My other option like i said is the Evo X. I was really intrigued by the power its capable of making with just bolt ons and a tune but when i saw one in person at a meet last night, it didnt look good to me. It didnt look sexy as the other amuse 370z i saw.

PS im not trying to make this into a 370z vs evo x thread. THeyre both great cars and both have different things to offer.

Any input is greatly appreciated

cossie1600 06-21-2013 12:28 PM

I miss the smoothness of the rotary engine, the 4 seats, the steering response and the cheap tires. Other than that, nothing else

JungleZ 06-21-2013 12:33 PM

Get the evo X ,coming from an s2000 I was highly disappointed in this 370z

Bking 06-21-2013 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nizmo370 (Post 2373465)
I want inputs from people whove previously owned an rx8 and now have an evo x. DO you like it better ? Do you regret it ? What do you miss about your rx8?

I think you're better off asking this in an Evo forum.

I've driven both but I did not own them. Personally I believe the two cars are in different class. The I would miss about the rx-8 will be the exterior/interior design and maybe the RWD. The Evo's interior is ridiculous. The good thing about the Evo is the power, real backseats, and, depends on where you live, 4WD.

But just take the 370z, you won't regret it.

Bking 06-21-2013 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JungleZ (Post 2373485)
Get the evo X ,coming from an s2000 I was highly disappointed in this 370z

I had a s2000 prior to the 370z. Why were you disappointed? I drove my friend's s2000 after I switched and I hated the s2000. The power band really sucks and I feel cramped sitting inside the car compared to the Z.

nizmo370 06-21-2013 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 2373471)
I miss the smoothness of the rotary engine, the 4 seats, the steering response and the cheap tires. Other than that, nothing else

Haha the smoothness is probably the only thing ill miss. If i get the Z i wont miss the looks but with the evo i think the looks with be missed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JungleZ (Post 2373485)
Get the evo X ,coming from an s2000 I was highly disappointed in this 370z

Can you elaborate as to why please ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bking (Post 2373495)
I think you're better off asking this in an Evo forum.

I've driven both but I did not own them. Personally I believe the two cars are in different class. The I would miss about the rx-8 will be the exterior/interior design and maybe the RWD. The Evo's interior is ridiculous. The good thing about the Evo is the power, real backseats, and, depends on where you live, 4WD.

But just take the 370z, you won't regret it.

Ive posted this thread on the evo x forum as well. Trying to get inputs from both sides.

The way i see it right now:

Evo X if i want power and attract dicks

Nismo 370z if i want a sexy coupe and attract chicks

If only the z came boosted it wouldnt even hesistate. I want something with boost but nothing comes boosted with the looks and handling i want .. of course except the GTR

Haboob 06-21-2013 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bking (Post 2373498)
I had a s2000 prior to the 370z. Why were you disappointed? I drove my friend's s2000 after I switched and I hated the s2000. The power band really sucks and I feel cramped sitting inside the car compared to the Z.

He just hates the Z and looks for any opportunity to bitch about it and put it down. :rolleyes:

Hopefully his lease is up soon so he can leave this community.

Yetamedi 06-21-2013 01:07 PM

I had an RX-8 (2004 model I think) and now own a 370Z NISMO. Some of things I do not miss about the RX-8 was the low power, the fact that it would seem to get 15 mpg no matter how I drove it, the heat from the footwells and center console (god forbid you put a cold drink there, cause it wouldn't be in short order).

I did enjoy how light it was and how I could throw it around corners. I also appreciated the suicide doors and back seat (no matter how small it was). Now that I own a Z (having just came from a 2011 5.0 mustang), I feel like I have the fun parts of the RX-8 minus a lot of the drawbacks (the back doors and seats being the only difference really).

I feel like I have 90% of the power of the mustang (I know performance wise its very comperable, but it still feels just a smidge slower which I would equate to the torque difference more than the HP) with the fun to drive part of the RX-8. The Z handles waaaay better than the 5.0 did and I get a hell of a lot more compliments on the Z than I did with either the RX or stang.

Vertigo 06-21-2013 01:41 PM

I had a lemon law claim on my 2006 RX8 and was issued a full refund for every payment made toward it. The only thing i miss about the RX8 when comparing it to the Z ..... the paint.

Cmike2780 06-21-2013 02:04 PM

I liked my RX-8, but huge lack of torque and off the line grunt really bugged me. The motor was great when it was new, but around 50k miles, it felt like it was on it's way out. Gas mileage was also terrible. I was averaging around 20-22 mpg on the highway and around 14-16 mpg city. It really got annoying with such a small tank. I had to fill up twice a week on average. Adding oil got annoying after a while also. I don't miss having to warm up the engine to move it a few feet on the driveway. On some occasions, I actually ended up just shifting to neutral and pushing. I really hated changing the oil filter on that thing and have the scars to prove it.

I do miss the smoothness at the high rpm's and the overall feel on the road. It felt light and well balanced. You can drive through twisty roads with confidence. The Z by comparison has a heavier feel to the steering. It's not bad, just different.

I have no regret selling the RX-8 & buying the Z. I like the Evo, but I'm kind of tired of it. I dunno....the Z just feels a bit more grown up.

nizmo370 06-21-2013 02:16 PM

Ive never had issues with the car for the first 2 or so years of ownership. Now its little things here and there pissing me off. Trunk doesnt open unless manually. Window makes a clanking noise when rolled up. Just to name a few. The car has low compression on the front rotor (got it tested last year). My plan was to get the new engine under warranty and then selling it but if im trading it in i dont think the amount of money i would get for it would be much different with the old engine. Also ya the power is not there at all. Ive hated getting beat by civics. Not that i race or anything, just a little street fun sometimes.

Do you guys think it would be wise to get the engine replaced before selling or am i better off just selling it as is ?? Keep in mind im still saving for the new car so i would either have to hold on to his car for a bit after the new engine or if i sold it as is , i would have to drive a shitty civic for a bit till i can afford the z.

RoshDawg 06-21-2013 02:50 PM

I have not driven the RX8, but I have owned an Evo X MR. The dual clutch sucks at low speeds (I may have had a lemon though, I'm not sure, but dealer couldn't and wouldn't fix it). If you get the GSR, it only has 5 gears, which annoyed me personally as I believe 6 is ideal. Besides passengers, the Z is MORE practical. I say this because of the silly trunk in the Evo (they have the battery and washer fluid back there, which cuts on cargo space). You could always put your cargo on the back seats, but that's messy IMO.

If the MR's dual clutch behaved properly, I would have probably still kept it, but proper dual clutches are hard to come by..

The Z also looks so sick, and the interior is no comparison. If you get bad weather though, the Z isnt the best choice. I can comment a lot on the two, if you need more advice feel free to ask anything.

And I just like to take this time out and again say how much JungleZ annoys me, as well as this entire forum.
Edit: I genuinely think he likes all the negative attention he gets from here. Why he is still on this forum is beyond me..

JARblue 06-21-2013 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Haboob (Post 2373502)
Hopefully his lease is up soon so he can leave this community.

He's barely a year in :facepalm:

http://i44.tinypic.com/nn445d.jpg

ParkStr8 06-21-2013 03:03 PM

Since you asked. In 2011 I bought a 2010 RX8 with 5k on it as a "toy" car to play with. It was fully loaded sans navigation - and owned by a woman. I did my research and knew all the "issues" - but I figured they were no big deal if managed.

Within the first week I knew I had made a mistake for the type of driver/owner I am.

Low on power, horrible mileage, cheap plastics, oil consumption to the max, terrible build quality, water in tail lights, pain to maintain, etc... Upside - 4 doors, it was light and handled well once you got it going.

The Z is in another league. Design, materials, build quality, engine, - everything. Think of it like if you were comparing our Z to a Cayman or 911. That's how far a step up it is.

Most Z's are fairly bullet proof. The only chance you have of getting a decent price is to have the rotary engine replaced under warranty.

-s-

Haboob 06-21-2013 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 2373776)
He's barely a year in :facepalm:

http://i44.tinypic.com/nn445d.jpg

http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-angry016.gif :crying:

edub370 06-21-2013 03:12 PM

z has better mpg, reliability, build quality, and power.

somehow mazda missed the mark with that rotary. usually with an engine you can have 2 of the following 3 things. performance, reliability, and economy. the rx8 has literally none of those traits... not a single one.


coming from an rx8, you will want to get intakes and test pipes on a Z to smooth out the way up in the rpm's so it doesn't feel super coarse compared to the rx8.

forza370z 06-21-2013 03:36 PM

Curious what evo forum says about 370z...

nizmo370 06-21-2013 03:43 PM

Theyre posting more in terms of the Evo x vs RX8. Which is essentially what i asked about lol. Here is the link if you guys want to check it out

Anyone come from an Rx8 - EvoXForums.com - Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X Forums

edub370 06-21-2013 03:57 PM

evo x is much more mod friendly. it will "feel" faster with the same hp since it has more torque. it doesn't quite have the looks of the z, but can be driven year round, and haul more people. not bad cars, but i like the more exotic look and feel of the z. plus the nissans interior is miles above the evos

i feel as far as quality and finish, the nissan is far above a mazda or mitsu. fun to drive is completely opinion based.

nizmo370 06-21-2013 04:08 PM

i agree with you on that. I think the z is a true sports car. Meant to be abused and perform like a sportscar. Whereas the evo is sedan with lots of power, dont get me wrong the z is plenty fast but the evo will respond to mods better as you said. The Z is a sexier car and im starting to lean towards it right now. I would sacrifice the AWD and slightly better power capabilities for a style with decent power.

alvitdk 06-21-2013 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by nizmo370 (Post 2373920)
i agree with you on that. I think the z is a true sports car. Meant to be abused and perform like a sportscar. Whereas the evo is sedan with lots of power, dont get me wrong the z is plenty fast but the evo will respond to mods better as you said. The Z is a sexier car and im starting to lean towards it right now. I would sacrifice the AWD and slightly better power capabilities for a style with decent power.

:iagree:

Cmike2780 06-21-2013 04:21 PM

The Z is more than mod friendly as long as you have the cash. You'll be at around 300-330whp (depending on the dyno) with full bolt-on's and tune. Twin turbos will get you bigger gains, but you'll end up spending $10k-$15k. To be honest though, bolt-on's are enough for me since it's mostly a daily driver.

binary0x01 06-21-2013 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bking (Post 2373498)
I had a s2000 prior to the 370z. Why were you disappointed? I drove my friend's s2000 after I switched and I hated the s2000. The power band really sucks and I feel cramped sitting inside the car compared to the Z.

My buddy has an s2k and yeah it is small inside, like really small.

binary0x01 06-21-2013 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 2373940)
The Z is more than mod friendly as long as you have the cash. You'll be at around 300-330whp (depending on the dyno) with full bolt-on's and tune. Twin turbos will get you bigger gains, but you'll end up spending $10k-$15k. To be honest though, bolt-on's are enough for me since it's mostly a daily driver.

Yeah, once the Z is a second car, then the track toy/occasional street rat build investment can commence.

nizmo370 06-21-2013 06:04 PM

Just saw a white evo x while i went out to grab a bite. It didnt look that nice to me. Its a nice looking and ive seen some really nicely done ones on instagram etc but i think the nismo 370z blows it away in terms of looks.


Anyone wanna give me their opinion on whether i should get the engine replaced under warranty before selling ? If i get it replaced i will probably hold on to it a bit. If not ill sell it as is and pick up a used civic while i save for the nismo.

From what i heard if i were to trade it in it wouldnt matter. If i sell privately it might. You guys think i would get more money selling as is or with a new engine ?

isayimandrew 06-21-2013 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nizmo370 (Post 2373465)

The power isnt there (currently have low compression on the engine) but even when the engine was healthy it wasnt fast enough for me. Have many small issues here and there such as the trunk not working, the windows making a noise while rolling up, and other little things here and there. I know no car is perfect but i would think NIssan would be better quality.

Any input is greatly appreciated

the 370Z has small issues like trunk not working either.... LOL

Quote:

Originally Posted by nizmo370 (Post 2374057)
Just saw a white evo x while i went out to grab a bite. It didnt look that nice to me. Its a nice looking and ive seen some really nicely done ones on instagram etc but i think the nismo 370z blows it away in terms of looks.


Anyone wanna give me their opinion on whether i should get the engine replaced under warranty before selling ? If i get it replaced i will probably hold on to it a bit. If not ill sell it as is and pick up a used civic while i save for the nismo.

From what i heard if i were to trade it in it wouldnt matter. If i sell privately it might. You guys think i would get more money selling as is or with a new engine ?

It depends on the dealership youre dealing with. Some will give you more money, some will take whatever and just sell it so you just gotta see. Its all about your negotiation.

nizmo370 06-21-2013 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ParkStr8 (Post 2373779)
Since you asked. In 2011 I bought a 2010 RX8 with 5k on it as a "toy" car to play with. It was fully loaded sans navigation - and owned by a woman. I did my research and knew all the "issues" - but I figured they were no big deal if managed.

Within the first week I knew I had made a mistake for the type of driver/owner I am.

Low on power, horrible mileage, cheap plastics, oil consumption to the max, terrible build quality, water in tail lights, pain to maintain, etc... Upside - 4 doors, it was light and handled well once you got it going.

The Z is in another league. Design, materials, build quality, engine, - everything. Think of it like if you were comparing our Z to a Cayman or 911. That's how far a step up it is.

Most Z's are fairly bullet proof. The only chance you have of getting a decent price is to have the rotary engine replaced under warranty.

-s-


Can you elaborate more on that last part ?? You mean getting a decent price selling my 8 with a replaced engine ?

forza370z 06-21-2013 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nizmo370 (Post 2374163)
Can you elaborate more on that last part ?? You mean getting a decent price selling my 8 with a replaced engine ?

Well, if you can get an engine replaced under the warranty for free then why not?

forza370z 06-21-2013 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nizmo370 (Post 2373499)
The way i see it right now:

Evo X if i want power and attract dicks

Nismo 370z if i want a sexy coupe and attract chicks

If only the z came boosted it wouldnt even hesistate. I want something with boost but nothing comes boosted with the looks and handling i want .. of course except the GTR

IMHO, the evo x is a bada$$ looking car. I like it. If done it right it's so sexy.:yum:

But I admit the 370z is a better looking car. I've got countless compliments on the car from all ages. BOTH girls and guys take pictures of my car makes me thinking of a new bussiness.:p Sometimes I fell this car just gets too much attentions...:shakes head:

As far as the performence and mod friendly. Evo x is not much faster than the 370 stock to stock. It might feel faster because of the turbo. But yes, evo will gain more power from the bolt-ons compare to the 370. Thus the mods on Evo is cheaper under 500whp. That said, if you want anything beyond 500whp, both Evo X and 370 are expensive.

nizmo370 06-21-2013 10:41 PM

^ Essentially i want a 400whp that can be daily driven in the summer and stored in winter. I can always TT the Z with the GTM kit but that would mean keeping the Z for a while ;).

Another thing is that 400 whp can be achieved with the evo for probably about 5 grande give or take. With the Z i believe you would have to boost it to get those numbers which usually costed about 8-10 grande ffrom what ive been reading.

Leaning towards the Z alot more right now. The evo x is a mean looking beast but its no sports car.

VQ370ZTT 06-21-2013 11:30 PM

370Z boosted is the only way to go, besides getting a GTR. :D

forza370z 06-21-2013 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nizmo370 (Post 2374320)
^ Essentially i want a 400whp that can be daily driven in the summer and stored in winter. I can always TT the Z with the GTM kit but that would mean keeping the Z for a while ;).

Another thing is that 400 whp can be achieved with the evo for probably about 5 grande give or take. With the Z i believe you would have to boost it to get those numbers which usually costed about 8-10 grande ffrom what ive been reading.

Leaning towards the Z alot more right now. The evo x is a mean looking beast but its no sports car.

I agree. If you want to bump the power to 400-500 whp, then you have to boost the Z. There are a few options. IMHO, the cheapest and most reliable boost would be the Stillen super charger kit. It's enough to make 400-500 whp while it has 2-year warranty and 48 state legel I believe. GTM, even the Fast Intentions new tt kit is built for bigger power. And be prepared to spend 15k if you want to do everything right. But it's another topic. Good luck with your decision OP!

KERMIT 06-22-2013 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nizmo370 (Post 2374320)
^ Essentially i want a 400whp that can be daily driven in the summer and stored in winter. I can always TT the Z with the GTM kit but that would mean keeping the Z for a while ;).

Another thing is that 400 whp can be achieved with the evo for probably about 5 grande give or take. With the Z i believe you would have to boost it to get those numbers which usually costed about 8-10 grande ffrom what ive been reading.

Leaning towards the Z alot more right now. The evo x is a mean looking beast but its no sports car.

Sounds like a C7 vette would be perfect for you. Also, why is your target 400 whp?

nizmo370 06-22-2013 08:00 AM

^ too young to own a vette. Im in my early 20s. Doesnt have to be 400whp .. just shooting for a summer car that can keep up with alot of cars on the track.

2xtreme1 06-23-2013 12:12 AM

Z is just way to sexy!
I don't think there is another car around the price range that gets the attention the Z does.
The way people look at the car can make you feel like you're driving an exotic lmao but you're not.

chrischhorn 06-23-2013 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nizmo370 (Post 2374558)
^ too young to own a vette. Im in my early 20s. Doesnt have to be 400whp .. just shooting for a summer car that can keep up with alot of cars on the track.


I thought the exact same thing when I bought my Z. I bought when 23. Now about to be 25. Still in love with it and puts a smile on my face everytime I walk out to it :-)

nizmo370 06-23-2013 01:38 AM

thanks guys i think i will go with the Z. Right now nismo 370s are going for about 35 - 40 grande its out of my budget but i think i will get the engine replaced and stick with it for a bit.

luigi90210 06-23-2013 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nizmo370 (Post 2374320)
^ Essentially i want a 400whp that can be daily driven in the summer and stored in winter. I can always TT the Z with the GTM kit but that would mean keeping the Z for a while ;).

Another thing is that 400 whp can be achieved with the evo for probably about 5 grande give or take. With the Z i believe you would have to boost it to get those numbers which usually costed about 8-10 grande ffrom what ive been reading.

Leaning towards the Z alot more right now. The evo x is a mean looking beast but its no sports car.

it costs 6k for a turn key supercharger kit from both stillen and GTM(stage 1) and both of those kits will give you more than 400whp on 91
if you are looking for 400whp on a evo with the stock turbo, you will most likely have to tune for E85(i am not too sure about the evo x but the evo9 needed to be retuned for E85 to break 400whp on the stock turbo reliably, keyword being reliably)

get the 370z though

even stock, the 370z can hold its own against a bunch of cars that outclass it on the track, and boosting it will just make it better

nizmo370 06-23-2013 10:23 PM

thanks for the info !!!

Nismo 370z it is. I dont think i would like driving a car which gets more attention from guys than chicks lol. Even though the evo x is a complete beast i think the nismo 370z is sexier. GTM TT FTW

onzedge 06-23-2013 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 2373776)
He's barely a year in :facepalm:

http://i44.tinypic.com/nn445d.jpg

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