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Pitch 06-19-2013 08:10 PM

Mustang recaro's fit in 370z?
 
So, im back, and after a buddy traded in his '13 mustang with track pack only and 20k miles for 29k, im most likely goin to be doin the same. Considering mine is a year newer and will have half those miles, i should be able to get at least that, which is the payoff amount. More by the time i do it around february. And then i can get my lovely z34 :DDDD

Anywho, my question is does anyone know if or think the recaros in the new mustangs will fit in the 370? I know they are incredibly expensive and i REALLY dont want to part with them and go back to normal stock seats in any car. Not to mention, it wont increase my trade in value 3k so id rather keep them if theyd be of use.

Any info would be great! And yes, i have searched google and found nothing

JungleZ 06-19-2013 09:29 PM

I have no idea if they fit but you should sell those recaros and save for suspension mods. The stock 370Z has suspect scary sloppy handling and horrible tires. You're gonna need swift springs and better tires.

synolimit 06-19-2013 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JungleZ (Post 2370917)
I have no idea if they fit but you should sell those recaros and save for suspension mods. The stock 370Z has suspect scary sloppy handling and horrible tires. You're gonna need swift springs and better tires.

:gtfo2:

m4a1mustang 06-19-2013 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitch (Post 2370833)
So, im back, and after a buddy traded in his '13 mustang with track pack only and 20k miles for 29k, im most likely goin to be doin the same. Considering mine is a year newer and will have half those miles, i should be able to get at least that, which is the payoff amount. More by the time i do it around february. And then i can get my lovely z34 :DDDD

Anywho, my question is does anyone know if or think the recaros in the new mustangs will fit in the 370? I know they are incredibly expensive and i REALLY dont want to part with them and go back to normal stock seats in any car. Not to mention, it wont increase my trade in value 3k so id rather keep them if theyd be of use.

Any info would be great! And yes, i have searched google and found nothing

I actually just sold my Recaros. I told myself if they wouldn't sell I'd test them in the Z. :icon17:

I know for sure you'll need to fab some custom mounts. They should fit height/width wise.

6spd 06-19-2013 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2370929)
:gtfo2:

x2

SS_Firehawk 06-19-2013 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JungleZ (Post 2370917)
I have no idea if they fit but you should sell those recaros and save for suspension mods. The stock 370Z has suspect scary sloppy handling and horrible tires. You're gonna need swift springs and better tires.

You are out of your mind.

red2010z 06-19-2013 11:42 PM

Jungle has never wrote anything worth reading in all his post.


The tires that come with the 370Z is a great tire! I never had a complaint and I track my car every Friday (when i am in Texas) I only got PSS because they were on sale for 20 inch tires.

People buy Swifts to get rid of the gap between the tire and fender not cause the Z drives like shiat!

JungleZ 06-20-2013 12:09 AM

Ya that's why almost every reviewer says the 370z is scary to push to the limit on every stock car they tested . Even the most experienced drivers have the tail swinging out.

Pitch 06-20-2013 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2370936)
I actually just sold my Recaros. I told myself if they wouldn't sell I'd test them in the Z. :icon17:

I know for sure you'll need to fab some custom mounts. They should fit height/width wise.

I see...well im a machinist so we have a tendency to make anything work haha. Now if its worth the hassle or not, im not sure

Pitch 06-20-2013 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JungleZ (Post 2370917)
I have no idea if they fit but you should sell those recaros and save for suspension mods. The stock 370Z has suspect scary sloppy handling and horrible tires. You're gonna need swift springs and better tires.

You realize im driving a boat on wheels with a big *** engine right? Im pretty sure the zeds handle a whole hellofalot better than my yacht stock

red2010z 06-20-2013 12:15 AM

Where did you find these findings jungle? Post some links.

People do say after they install the Swifts the car handles better, does not mean they just switched the springs out for handling. It was because of the gap.

JungleZ 06-20-2013 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Pitch (Post 2371085)
You realize im driving a boat on wheels with a big *** engine right? Im pretty sure the zeds handle a whole hellofalot better than my yacht stock

The mustang gt is almost as fast as an m3 on a track at a cheaper price tag and the 370z needs like 2000$ in suspension and tires at least to be respectable and not feel like you're going to die when you push the limits.

JungleZ 06-20-2013 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by red2010z (Post 2371086)
Where did you find these findings jungle? Post some links.

People do say after they install the Swifts the car handles better, does not mean they just switched the springs out for handling. It was because of the gap.

Swift springs reduce body roll and make the car feel more planted. Imagine Chris Harris doing a 370z review with swifts and Bridgestone re11 he wouldn't say the brz is more fun..

synolimit 06-20-2013 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by JungleZ (Post 2371090)
Swift springs reduce body roll and make the car feel more planted. Imagine Chris Harris doing a 370z review with swifts and Bridgestone re11 he wouldn't say the brz is more fun..

Dude you drive a base. Hello?

I have a 13 sport. I haven't measured everything (sway bar sizes etc) but I don't have body roll. My WRX with koni adjustables with RCE yellows (330 lbs) and my friends 11 STI can't touch the stiffness of these stock components.

fxroar 06-20-2013 01:23 AM

I sense a troll. Don't feed the trolls. /thread

UNKNOWN_370 06-20-2013 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by JungleZ (Post 2371090)
Swift springs reduce body roll and make the car feel more planted. Imagine Chris Harris doing a 370z review with swifts and Bridgestone re11 he wouldn't say the brz is more fun..

The Z has almost no body roll stock. The most important reason for getting swifts is reducing bump steer under aggressive street driving which is not generally recommended, but we do it anyway.

Don't talk out your azz just to Bash jungle.

And if pushing to the limit is so important? Why didn't you get the sport pkg or Nismo?

m4a1mustang 06-20-2013 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2371592)
The Z has almost no body roll stock. The most important reason for getting swifts is reducing bump steer under aggressive street driving which is not generally recommended, but we do it anyway.

Don't talk out your azz just to Bash jungle.

It actually has a lot of body roll stock. Damn soft stock bars!

It pretty much keels right over in a hard corner.

http://stfoto.smugmug.com/Cars/ZDayZ...ragon10-XL.jpg

Which is fine. Nothing wrong with that. And it's easily corrected with more aggressive bars. Definitely needs much bigger up front so the front tires actually work!

saber 06-20-2013 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2371113)
Dude you drive a base. Hello?

I have a 13 sport. I haven't measured everything (sway bar sizes etc) but I don't have body roll. My WRX with koni adjustables with RCE yellows (330 lbs) and my friends 11 STI can't touch the stiffness of these stock components.

yup, the WRXes roll all day long compared to the z :rofl2:

then again i'm just on stock springs on my WRX. just have a swaybar and underbody brace...and a tower strut. wtf O-o;

UNKNOWN_370 06-20-2013 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2371598)
It actually has a lot of body roll stock. Damn soft stock bars!

It pretty much keels right over in a hard corner.

http://stfoto.smugmug.com/Cars/ZDayZ...ragon10-XL.jpg

Which is fine. Nothing wrong with that. And it's easily corrected with more aggressive bars. Definitely needs much bigger up front so the front tires actually work!

Blame it on your euro-shocks. :p As far as off the lot sports car goes. My Z stock had well controlled body roll by comparison of other vehicles in the price range.

cooltoy 06-20-2013 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Pitch (Post 2370833)
So, im back,

You were gone?

RoshDawg 06-20-2013 10:56 AM

JungleZ seriously needs to be banned from this forum. I personally find all his posts to be terribly unhelpful and just outright annoying.

With different brackets I would imagine it could fit in the Z. Measure the width though and let us know. I can go out to my car and measure my stock (sport touring) seats and tell you if yours will be too wide. I do highly recommend not letting those awesome seats go to waste in the trade in. What would you do to replace those seats though? Have you found out how much stock mustang seats cost?

Oh and you're right Steve about the bars! That was the first mod I got! Just a couple hundred bucks and an easy install later and I was :driving:

m4a1mustang 06-20-2013 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2371606)
Blame it on your euro-shocks. :p As far as off the lot sports car goes. My Z stock had well controlled body roll by comparison of other vehicles in the price range.

That's the key word. Z actually rolls more than a stock Mustang (the "sport" package equivalent) but it does it with better body control. So while the Mustang rolls less it does it faster than the Z (dampers), so it can feel sloppier. Body roll just hurts the Z because the front tires aren't working like they should. Definitely needs a stiffer front bar to help maximize contact patch for more front grip. The question is... how stiff. ;) :yum:

m4a1mustang 06-20-2013 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by RoshDawg (Post 2371623)
JungleZ seriously needs to be banned from this forum. I personally find all his posts to be terribly unhelpful and just outright annoying.

With different brackets I would imagine it could fit in the Z. Measure the width though and let us know. I can go out to my car and measure my stock (sport touring) seats and tell you if yours will be too wide. I do highly recommend not letting those awesome seats go to waste in the trade in. What would you do to replace those seats though? Have you found out how much stock mustang seats cost?

Oh and you're right Steve about the bars! That was the first mod I got! Just a couple hundred bucks and an easy install later and I was :driving:

The leather Recaros are money. Like $3k retail.

Edit: If OP does get Z34, it makes more sense to me to sell the Mustang Recaros and then buy a new set of aftermarket Recaros (lighter, sans airbag) which will be much easier to mount. Sportster CS :yum:

http://www.tunerworks.com/products/i...52_01_4443.JPG

Chuck33079 06-20-2013 11:03 AM

Those are gorgeous. I love seats with the thigh extension. I still don't know why we didn't get one stock. Hell, the G37S has one so Nissan has access to them.

jburke26 06-20-2013 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by JungleZ (Post 2370917)
I have no idea if they fit but you should sell those recaros and save for suspension mods. The stock 370Z has suspect scary sloppy handling and horrible tires. You're gonna need swift springs and better tires.

Sounds like your just pissed you didn't get the sport package....

m4a1mustang 06-20-2013 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by jburke26 (Post 2371747)
Sounds like your just pissed you didn't get the sport package....

No, he's just pissed. ;)

Chuck33079 06-20-2013 11:49 AM

Goddammit people, stop quoting that moron. If everyone puts him on ignore and we all agree to not quote him, none of us will have to deal with him anymore.

m4a1mustang 06-20-2013 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2371755)
Goddammit people, stop quoting that moron. If everyone puts him on ignore and we all agree to not quote him, none of us will have to deal with him anymore.

But then what will we do at work?

jburke26 06-20-2013 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2371758)
but then what will we do at work?

exactly!

Chuck33079 06-20-2013 11:55 AM

True. I failed to factor that in. Maybe we just all agree not to quote him so only those of us who want an easy target can see him?

synolimit 06-20-2013 12:18 PM

Can anyone confirm sport springs? Are they base springs, nismo spring stiffness, or something in between??

So at minimum you guys are saying with a sport package euro shocks get a front sway bar? What's our size and how thick does whiteline get up to?

Chuck33079 06-20-2013 12:24 PM

Unless something changed for 2013, sport and base springs are the same.

m4a1mustang 06-20-2013 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2371822)
Unless something changed for 2013, sport and base springs are the same.

Correct. Springs are the same. 2013s get a damper tweak over the 09-12s but other than that they are the same.

m4a1mustang 06-20-2013 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2371815)
Can anyone confirm sport springs? Are they base springs, nismo spring stiffness, or something in between??

So at minimum you guys are saying with a sport package euro shocks get a front sway bar? What's our size and how thick does whiteline get up to?

If you do a quick search there's a lot of information on the various bars offered for our cars. Whiteline is always a good choice but there are many others.

You might as well order the whole front/rear set instead of one bar (unless you are in some AutoX class that only allows a front bar change.) Good idea to read up on how the bars work and affect handling so you can make an educated decision on what to go with, and understand how to set them up. There may be a lot of trial and error associated with getting an adjustable bar setup "just right" for you.

Remember, what works for one person might not always work for another.

synolimit 06-20-2013 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2371832)
If you do a quick search there's a lot of information on the various bars offered for our cars. Whiteline is always a good choice but there are many others.

You might as well order the whole front/rear set instead of one bar (unless you are in some AutoX class that only allows a front bar change.) Good idea to read up on how the bars work and affect handling so you can make an educated decision on what to go with, and understand how to set them up. There may be a lot of trial and error associated with getting an adjustable bar setup "just right" for you.

Remember, what works for one person might not always work for another.

I've been through it a million times before. Trial and error costs money which I'm not into throwing away. If what works for someone gets me close enough, that's fine with me.

m4a1mustang 06-20-2013 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2371844)
I've been through it a million times before. Trial and error costs money which I'm not into throwing away. If what works for someone gets me close enough, that's fine with me.

Well pretty much any bar choice will be an improvement over stock. Stillen and Whiteline are popular. Eibach too.

By trial and error I meant testing the numerous adjustments on the bars. Most of them are multi-adjustable front and rear.

Chuck33079 06-20-2013 12:43 PM

I think he meant trial and error in regards to the settings on the adjustable bars, not trial and error meaning buy several different bars and see what works best.

m4a1mustang 06-20-2013 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2371852)
I think he meant trial and error in regards to the settings on the adjustable bars, not trial and error meaning buy several different bars and see what works best.

Read my mind. ;)

synolimit 06-20-2013 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2371850)
Well pretty much any bar choice will be an improvement over stock. Stillen and Whiteline are popular. Eibach too.

By trial and error I meant testing the numerous adjustments on the bars. Most of them are multi-adjustable front and rear.

Gotcha.

RoshDawg 06-20-2013 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2371870)
Gotcha.

For what it's worth. I went with Stillen front and rear, and used the middle stiffness setting for the front and softest setting for the rear. Keep in mind even the softest setting for the aftermarket bars (at least Stillen) are far more stiff than the stock ones. Oh an the rest of my suspension is stock.

Back to the seats, does getting aftermarket seats without airbags affect insurance?


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