2013 7 auto vs Dodge ram ..Hemi engine? Bro-inlaw says he can take the Z..

JARblue

and that would be why I engine brake in 3rd for this purpose...

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Bucketlist2012

Yes....Slowing down without brakes gives them the hint....Well Done...

Anyone slamming the brakes will be starting a new thread ..."totaled the Z"...

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1971 Z/28 with coil overs, rushforth's, willwoods, Hotchkis. 4 speed
GMC Sierra1500

UNKNOWN_370

I like this method. Bucket is just quoting you cuz we are on each others iggy lists. It's an indirect self righteous opportunity comment toward me but IDGAF

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luigi90210

slamming on your brakes is not illegal, no need to make up fake laws just because you dont like it when someone slams on their brakes while you're tailing them

what if, and i know this is going to sound crazy, but what if there was a situation in which you need to suddenly stop, like i dont know, maybe a kid running out in front of you, or an animal jumping out in front of your car or something falling off a car, or dare i say it, when a car suddenly stops in front of you because they had to stop suddenly in order to keep their family safe

all it takes was "i thought i saw a road hazard in front of my car"(and it can be anything from a plastic bag, to a small toddler walking out on the street) and you have won the lawsuit because the driver who rear ended you wasn't maintaining a safe distance

no matter what you want to think, slamming on your bakes is not and never will be illegal because outlawing that will cause all kinds of safety issues to anyone in the car

Bucketlist2012

What a joke....You cherry pick one sentence out....I said if there are witness to the fact that you slammed on your Brakes to cause an accident, you will fix your own car.....I don't tailgate, so nice try is assuming that I do....

If you are witnessed by a third party slamming on your Brakes for no reason other than to cause an accident, it is road rage...And you will fix your own car at the very least..

But truly nice try trying to cherry pick one sentence...

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2009 Sport/Touring 370Z
1971 Z/28 with coil overs, rushforth's, willwoods, Hotchkis. 4 speed
GMC Sierra1500

luigi90210

But what is the witness going to say? You were driving then suddenly slammed on your brakes?

What if a rabbit or other small animal ran out on the road and the witness didn't see it?
What if you thought you saw a small animal out on the road and slammed on your brakes?

You can't possibly tell me that you can be held liable for something that you have no control over.

Now if you were to cut someone off because they cut you off than brake check them, the party who rear ended you will have a case. But someone can not be held liable for just slamming on their brakes and being rear ended by a tailgater.

Oh and I really don't care if I cherry pick one statement, you posted an incorrect statement and I am correcting you

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oh and FYI, i only quoted that sentence because i agreed with the rest of your post, if you brake check someone, you would be at fault because you attempted to cause an accident, but slamming your brakes in its own is not illegal

Bucketlist2012

Go for it Luigi...Slam on your brakes if you get tailgated....I will wait for your thread, "just got my Z totaled"... What is the witness going to say ? " Nothing was around and the front car was angry because it was being tailgated, so they slammed on the brakes to cause an accident. ". That IS illegal...It can be called reckless driving....maybe read the post above from a person who talked to a cop....

And then if you try to lie and say you saw an animal when the witness knows you were in a road rage, that is insurance fraud...Lying to your insurance to prove a point to the tailgater...Good luck with that....

Don't get your panties in a bunch....The next tailgater will make you angry soon enough...

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1971 Z/28 with coil overs, rushforth's, willwoods, Hotchkis. 4 speed
GMC Sierra1500

Coon-azz

its all in how you state it to the officer. If you say, "Saw a deer run out in front of you and you tried to stop" and the guy behind you was deliberately tailgatinging (after you tapped your brakes once as a warning) then the court might ask the truck driver why he ingored the first warning and made the decision to use his vehicle as a weapon; putting both himself and the other driver at risk... As the driver of the Z you just say you don't know anything about the guy behind you... Saw an animal run out in front of me and I hit the brakes to slow down. The tailgating dumb *** hit me; even after I had tapped my brakes once before to warn them.

....or put a video recorder in the back window and take the recording down to the local majestrate....with that kind of evidence, they usually issue a summons...its worked real nice for me in VA. It helped our majetrate take a few of these tuck fards off the road; for ever.

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Bucketlist2012

I have to say I hate Tailgaters and I am not one of them. Any Car especially large trucks that tailgate suck....My posts were directed at Luigi who said I was making up laws...I didn't...If an Independent witness says you purposely slammed on your brakes because you were mad, then you better have a front Camera that can prove the deer ran out, or as stated by an attorney, you will be fixing your own Car..

The Attorney states that if you purposely slam on your brakes and it was from anger, you will be the one who used your car as a weapon...This attorney has gotten convictions of assault on the front car... It is not a cut and dry case...Unless you have two cameras at the time of the accident. And no independent witness.. Also remember you are stating that all you have to do is Lie.... To the police and your insurance...A crime ..

And I am not defending tailgaters...They suck...My original post stated that slamming on your brakes for the sole reason of responding to a tailgater is a crime is accurate...People have been convicted of assault...That is just my way of warning you guys that it may not turn out like you want it to...But good for you on the camera...Get one for the front and you have it all covered...

And last why would anyone slam their brakes on a tailgater in a Z car ? That is just looking for a bad accident. Especially a large truck...

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1971 Z/28 with coil overs, rushforth's, willwoods, Hotchkis. 4 speed
GMC Sierra1500

Coon-azz

Ok. I agree that causing the accident is not ideal; especially in a Z.
I was simply making a point that if you articulate your response correctly, you may not look like the guy who slammed on his brakes. And perhaps the deer scenario was a poor one. Perhaps, let the tuck fard keep riding you and let up off the gas. This way if he tails you and taps your car, you could say that you were adjusting your distance between you and the car in front of you. I believe the law holds the second car accountable to adjust his/her speed to adjust to traffic. If they couldn't, then it would indicate what? That they were tailgating. Either way causing an accident is not ideal, but neither is making a conscious decision to purposely tailgate someone. As far as court goes...

In my above statement, one might be not telling the truth, but don't assume that in the real world, neither the other driver nor the po-po is going to be honest. When you go to court you have an OPPORTUNITY for justice; doesn't mean you will get it; just because you told the truth and did all the right things. Just a thought...Not recommending you cause an accident, but just recognize its in the presentation...

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ZBro16

This reminds me of a story from fairly recently as I was traveling through the great state of ALLEERRBAMMMEERR (College Football capital of the world. Roll Tide and War Cam.)

I was driving one of my many performance cars in my possession. I have so many small performance cars. Some people from the south tend to think I cannot handle a large vehicle since I have so many small "zippy" cars. "Cute little toys" they were.

On this particular day, I needed gas. I stopped at this hybrid gas station/truck stop. On one side, you could gas up normal vehicles, and on the other side, you could fuel your vehicle of choice for a work truck that may or may not be used in the Mexican cartels.

I opted to prepay and go inside. There aren't very many people at this truckstop, so the two guys inside with beards, mesh-backed hats, and sleeveless flannel shirts were pointing to my Z and chuckling (the redneck chuckle that could sometimes be mistaken for a small child hyperventilating on the playground after a rough game of tag). The one that looked like he was a love child between a dude on Duck Dynasty and Larry the Cable Guy approached me first.

"I HAVE TRUCK. YOU HAVE TINY CAR. I WANT TO GO FAST. YOU WANT TO GO FAST BUT NOT FAST AS TRUCK. TINY MAN."

Thankfully, my primary occupation is that of a translator for a major consultant firm, and I specialize in 17 different languages. To my advantage, one of those languages is "retarded *** redneck". I interpreted his infantile sentence formulation as a sort of challenge to my Z with whatever truck he was driving. I quickly scrambled for a rebuttal which would satisfy his truck-driver-complex but also avoid completely eluding the peak of this man's mental capacities.

"NOPE," I replied. "YOU WIN."

Upon his realization that I could perhaps predict the future, and the future appeared to favor his wildest aspirations, he was completely stunned and speechless. I handed him a piece of beef jerky, got my gasoline, and moved on with my life.

JungleZ

I have a 5.0 foxbody mustang kid rev his engine everytime he sees me and he's tried to race every import I've ever had. His father with a supercharged gt said go hop in your rice rocket and get off my lawn when i confronted him for doing rev flyby drag racing. These people just hate imports

Also here in the oc, all the bros want to have lifted trucks. I've had problems with lifted trucks my whole life.

Amj2020

If anyone wasn't understanding about the racing on my street and told me to screw off after putting my family in danger... they would most likely find a roofing truck which has dumped roofing nails onto their driveway right behind their tires for a week. How unfortunate

Apoc370z

Typing in all caps made this question so much more legit

Haboob

No, it's more of a Southwest thing. It's all over AZ as well.