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Got PSI 07-29-2009 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by tooohip (Post 130376)
Stop feeding the trolls!!!

can we see some pix of your car plz ?

Shah 07-29-2009 07:56 PM

race me on a track with me driving a porsche and ill show you what a real sports car is...

theDreamer 07-29-2009 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Got PSI (Post 130386)
can we see some pix of your car plz ?

There is a search function, you can find his car that way.

370Z = sports car.
Your car = not a sports car.


This is 100% correct, the Z is 100% sports car, the BMW has the ability to be quick but provide that extra luxury people want for that "smooth ride." I, and many others, want a true sports car and the Z is a great car.

theDreamer 07-29-2009 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Shah (Post 130388)
race me in a porsche on a track and ill show you what a real sports car is...

Depends on the Porsche, so far the Z has taken on a few and won in many reviews. But they are in the same class (similar power/weight) so it was a great comparison.

Mercennarius 07-29-2009 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Shah (Post 130388)
race me in a porsche on a track and ill show you what a real sports car is...

Are you saying your BMW now outperforms Porsches on a track :bowrofl: :bowrofl: You guys are hilarious.

theDreamer 07-29-2009 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mercennarius (Post 130394)
Are you saying your BMW now outperforms Porsches on a track :bowrofl: :bowrofl: You guys are hilarious.

:rofl2:

Got PSI 07-29-2009 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mercennarius (Post 130394)
Are you saying your BMW now outperforms Porsches on a track :bowrofl: :bowrofl: You guys are hilarious.

please show me how you gathered that from his post...

you gotta be kidding me.

FR305 07-29-2009 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mercennarius (Post 130382)
370Z = sports car.
Your car = not a sports car.

Nobody bought a 370Z to stuff people in the back and brag to their relatives that they drive a european car. They bought it because its a proven sports car with 40 years of Z Car heritage thats one of the best bang for buck performance cars in production. Its also a much more emotionally designed car in both interior/exterior styling and driving dynamics. Go back to your BMW forums and take your BMW nutswinging :nutswinger: friends with you.

You base you comment on what? Why the **** would I buy my car for that? You are very ignorant if you think BMW drives think like that.

Im sure there was great emotion in designing your car I bet the designer had to finish quick because he had to take a ****. The last thing he must have designed was the door handles before he ran of to the bathroom. :tiphat:

Got PSI 07-29-2009 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 130397)
:rofl2:

Relax there cheerleader. That was not funny at all.

Shah 07-29-2009 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mercennarius (Post 130394)
Are you saying your BMW now outperforms Porsches on a track :bowrofl: :bowrofl: You guys are hilarious.

god your dumb

YOU RACE ME WHILE IM IN A PORSCHE AND ILL SHOW YOU THAT YOUR POS NISSAN ISN'T A REAL SPORTS CAR.

Mercennarius 07-29-2009 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Got PSI (Post 130402)
please show me how you gathered that from his post...

you gotta be kidding me.

Read what I quoted. :rolleyes:.

Shah 07-29-2009 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 130393)
Depends on the Porsche, so far the Z has taken on a few and won in many reviews. But they are in the same class (similar power/weight) so it was a great comparison.

911 carrera

Mercennarius 07-29-2009 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by FR305 (Post 130403)
You base you comment on what? Why the **** would I buy my car for that? You are very ignorant if you think BMW drives think like that.

Im sure there was great emotion in designing your car I bet the designer had to finish quick because he had to take a ****. The last thing he must have designed was the door handles before he ran of to the bathroom. :tiphat:

BMW makes their cars on a mass produced assembly line too, regardless of what you're salesmen told you :owned:

Shah 07-29-2009 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mercennarius (Post 130412)
BMW makes their cars on a mass produced assembly line too, regardless of what you're salesmen told you :owned:

wtf how did you get that from what he said..you really need to go back to school. you can't read or understand anything

FR305 07-29-2009 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mercennarius (Post 130412)
BMW makes their cars on a mass produced assembly line too, regardless of what you're salesmen told you :owned:

Ferraris are made on a assembly line too What exactly is your point? BTW are you including that smiley to let me know you are getting owned?

grahfz 07-29-2009 08:23 PM

...my old 528i/sport package/5speed (6% of all the 5 series imported were sticks at all) at road atlanta. Did great.

the 350's that showed up? didn't finish.. they were heavily fscked with though..
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theDreamer 07-29-2009 08:29 PM

:drama:

FR305 07-29-2009 08:33 PM

I see the word sports car being thrown around can any of you please enlighten me on what a "sports car" is/means to you and what makes the 370z more of a sports car than a 335i or a 328?

theDreamer 07-29-2009 08:43 PM

A sports car is a term used to describe a class of automobile, typically of two seats and two doors, with precise handling, brisk acceleration, sharp braking, and attractive aesthetics. A sports car makes trade offs in practical considerations such as passenger space, comfort, and cargo capacity in favor of those traits which enhance the joy of driving it.

The 335i or 328 both attempt to create a more luxury ride, while trying to maintain performance but are first a luxury car. The Z is first a sports car, and second at providing luxury.

alexanderb 07-29-2009 09:08 PM

Sports car - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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A sports car is a term used to describe a class of automobile, typically of two seats and two doors, with precise handling, brisk acceleration, sharp braking, and attractive aesthetics. A sports car makes trade offs in practical considerations such as passenger space, comfort, and cargo capacity in favor of those traits which enhance the joy of driving it.
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Sports car v. Sporting Models

A car may be a sporting automobile without being a sports car. Performance modifications of regular, production cars, such as sport compacts, sports sedans, muscle cars, hot hatches and the like, generally are not considered sports cars, yet share traits common to sports cars. They are sometimes called "sports cars" for marketing purposes for increased advertising and promotional purposes.[2] Performance cars of all configurations are grouped as Sports and Grand tourer cars, or, occasionally, as performance cars.

TurboSid 07-29-2009 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mercennarius (Post 130329)
To my knowledge there have been no engine failures due to a 370Z overheating....there have been a handful of 335i engine/turbo failures due to overheating. And if you have to ask about the runflat issue just search your BMW forums.



No, this is what you "simply stated":

Again please get off the 370Z forums if this is the kind of crap you're going to post. Nobody hear cares that you drive a BMW...I think I speak for more then just a few of us when I say i'm glad I don't. Never been impressed with BMWs bland styling, bland interiors, bland performance, bland everything, over priced and poor reliability. If you think your cars performance is impressive come take a ride in the 300ZX sitting in my garage http://www.photodump.org/stored29/icon_twisted.gif

The Z is a sports car...if you want to compare the BMW to something Japanese compare it to an Infiniti.

Like i said, PLEASE post up some solid info, like links to threads where u read about an n54 blowing up due to over heating. till then your statements have no validity behind them.

I can easily say "YO my boys 370z blew up and he never washed it and his car always gave him problems" which is the only defense most of u idiots can come up with.

At the end of the day i wanted to clear up some misconceptions of ignorant children on the internet. They can go back and stereotype bmw owners based off **** they've heard but at the end of the day my car > 370z. my cars not for status i bought my car because its a new platform with lots of potential and suits my taste in styling. I chose NOT to buy the 370z b/c it doesn't. plain and simple.

ConchZ2 07-29-2009 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by alexanderb (Post 130489)



The only true BMW “sports car” was the Z

BMW Z8 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

FR305 07-29-2009 09:30 PM

By the terms stated above the 335i meets all those criteria and it does better than the 370z. Not to mention the heritage of BMW which has been and will always be being THE ULTIMATE DIVING MACHINE :tup:

theDreamer 07-29-2009 09:34 PM

TurboSid, I understand why you love your BMW, I almost bought one, but why did you come here in the first place?
FR305, but the 335i (coupe) comes first as a luxury car, then a sports car. It is a 2 door car, but with a second row of seats which is not what a sports car is about. It has a solid engine, but it focused first on providing a good stable ride, not about going around a track first. Not saying it can not or is bad, but it is first set of priorities is not that of a sports car.

TurboSid 07-29-2009 09:38 PM

a friend linked me to the thread, i read some false statements, i wanted to clear the air.

That is all

BMW>Nissan 07-29-2009 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 130515)
:confused:
How can you come in here and say such things? I know many people who own BMWs who are IT geeks, have mommy/daddy's money, and how is anything we do to our cars "rice?" This is not the Honda/Acura world from Fast and the Furios, many people here track their cars and compete (and beat) many premier brands (BWM, Porsche, etc.).

again....even if nissan beats a "premier brand" it is still a little ricer nissan....
in the end....IT's STILL A NISSAN..."never more" quote the raven......

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 130515)
:confused:
How can you come in here and say such things?

because I can...

theDreamer 07-29-2009 09:52 PM

"Ricer Nissan"
Where is this comment coming from, what makes Nissan a ricer brand? You make comments like this, and I look around this forum and even another Z forum for 350z and do not see people doing "ricer" things to their cars. Now I could Google up some forums and clearly show you "ricer," and it would be nothing close to what Nissan is doing to their cars, especially the Z or even the GT-R.

SMJane_Again 07-29-2009 10:31 PM

Not a huge fan of posting in the middle of an all-out flame war, especially when I (as yet) do not have a dog in this fight. But I find it interesting that the 335i owners have decided to come after the Z owners, seeing as how they did this exact same thing to the E9x M3 owners. They've felt the need to impress upon both groups just how capable their vehicle is, and they pull no punches in doing so. It's right to feel affronted, because having an 'outsider' (non-Z enthusiast on a Z enthusiast forum) come in and blatantly pan your ideal/hobby is incredibly provocative. I think we, and really I mean the 370z owners who have already dropped coin on their rides, could take a page out of the M3 forums' book on how they deal with this less than desirable presence by choosing to engage in debate the level headed individuals who post (and there are a few, though so far it remains to be seen in this thread) and flat out ignoring the rabble rousers. If that seems too level-headed and reasonable, 335i owners, then by all means, flame on. My soul is prepared. But take a moment to remember where you are. Thanks.

S.

antennahead 07-29-2009 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SMJane_Again (Post 130570)
Not a huge fan of posting in the middle of an all-out flame war, especially when I (as yet) do not have a dog in this fight. But I find it interesting that the 335i owners have decided to come after the Z owners, seeing as how they did this exact same thing to the E9x M3 owners. They've felt the need to impress upon both groups just how capable their vehicle is, and they pull no punches in doing so. It's right to feel affronted, because having an 'outsider' (non-Z enthusiast on a Z enthusiast forum) come in and blatantly pan your ideal/hobby is incredibly provocative. I think we, and really I mean the 370z owners who have already dropped coin on their rides, could take a page out of the M3 forums' book on how they deal with this less than desirable presence by choosing to engage in debate the level headed individuals who post (and there are a few, though so far it remains to be seen in this thread) and flat out ignoring the rabble rousers. If that seems too level-headed and reasonable, 335i owners, then by all means, flame on. My soul is prepared. But take a moment to remember where you are. Thanks.

S.


"by choosing to engage in debate the level headed individuals who post (and there are a few, though so far it remains to be seen in this thread) and flat out ignoring the rabble rousers"

Very well said, nice post!

John

tag824 07-30-2009 12:18 AM

Hello everyone, let me introduce myself. I guess I started this all out war; unintentionally might I add... hahaha. I thought some statements regarding the 135i/335i were just false. Anyway there's unfair mudslinging going on here from both sides. For the record, no I don't think a Nissan is a POS just like a Bimmer isn't either.

I personally didn't like the Top Gear review. It wasn't fair IMO because it was comparing apples to oranges. The Z4 is a convertible and everyone knows convertibles weigh more to stiffen them up when the top is down. The 370Z is a coupe. Now if they tested a 370Z convertible against the Z4 that would be a different story.

That aside I like the 370Z. I like its looks and its an awesome bang for the buck. I'm actually going to test drive one probably this weekend because I love cars and I want to see for myself how it drives. I didn't get my car for it's name or to impress anyone. I can't really convey this that well online but if you saw me and my attire you would think I ride the bus to work. In other words status symbolism doesn't mean sh!t to me. :rolleyes:

Now as far as my 335i, it never ceases to amaze me in my daily driving. Winter or summer, I love it. It's quiet yet can be loud. It has a nice soft ride yet can take the twisties like it's on rails and on top of that has back seats with a large trunk. Just a win, win for what I wanted in a car. The twin turbo's give it that low end torque and just rips it off the line an just pulls for what seems like forever. And now that I have my PROcede CANbus tune it's both exhilarating and terrifying at once :eek:. My gawd is she fast... *quiver*

It's funny how everyone is getting so defensive over their cars but I don't like how some just flat out debunk things because of a name or calls it BS in retaliation. It's not mature or productive in a civilized debate. And if anything goes against the point you're trying to convey. How old are we all again? That goes for both the Bimmer guys as well as the 370Z'ers.

Hate... it's overrated. :tiphat:

AK370Z 07-30-2009 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by tooohip (Post 129738)

Troll alert!
:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by tooohip (Post 130376)
Stop feeding the trolls!!!

:iagree:

As a car enthusiast myself, I like to welcome people with ALL different cars including BMW to our forums. But if you're going to sign up to cause trouble or troll, it's really a shame. Those who caused trouble has been given a little time off. I hope when they return, their post(s) will be a lot mature.

onethreefive 07-30-2009 11:02 AM

Can't we all just get along? :tiphat:


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