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theDreamer 07-27-2009 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mercennarius (Post 128069)
Having read all the problems the 135i/335i cars have been having i'd stray away from owning one of those...especially after seeing my friends 3 series fall apart over the past year.

This makes me happy I did not go 135i, I saw it launch and fell in love, but that was before the Z came rushing up and passing it. I test drove the Z one afternoon during lunch and I almost walked out that day with it, just the wrong color.

Pharmacist 07-27-2009 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mercennarius (Post 128069)
Having read all the problems the 135i/335i cars have been having i'd stray away from owning one of those...especially after seeing my friends 3 series fall apart over the past year.

I didn't say I'd own it. :D I would've leased it just for the duration of warranty. But yeah, reliability of german cars has just gone down the crapper. Heck, Mercedes ranks even below GM in reliability :S

ArtVandaleigh 07-27-2009 09:28 PM

Glad to see a great review from Top Gear!

nightfire 07-27-2009 09:37 PM

Well I wouldn't go as far as saying german cars have gone down the crapper, that's a little harsh. I mean BMW isn't made to be a track car and everyone knows that. If you want a great luxury car that turns on a dime and will give you trouble free years as long as you don't abuse it, then you get a BMW. My mom had an E46 330ci convertible and that thing rocked for the street, but I would never take it on the track. Now she has a 335i convertible and it's even more enjoyable to drive. Mercedes however, I can't say the same for. They're quality and reliability have been pretty bad for the last 10 years or so and they love to make innovative stuff that's way to pricey and loves to break. But look at porsche, they're one of the last (if not the last) non-supercar company that has an entire line up of cars that are built for the street and the track but is still made for every day luxury. I wouldn't count out those germans just yet...

RCZ 07-27-2009 10:18 PM

I was disappointed with the review. They just spent 14 minutes doing drifting in the rain and got no real results in the end. Then he downplayed it pretty badly and ended it abruptly when the Z killed the Z4 on the track. He had NO reason to pick the BMW this time around and frankly his reviews have been less than objective lately since he tries to make them so absurd to try and be funny. The humor is getting really repetitive too.

zZSportZz 07-27-2009 10:29 PM

Is it me...or was his pick of the BMW sarcastic? Even the crowd laughed. Sounds to me like he picked the 370z...just based on that comment.

Mercennarius 07-27-2009 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by zZSportZz (Post 128261)
Is it me...or was his pick of the BMW sarcastic? Even the crowd laughed. Sounds to me like he picked the 370z...just based on that comment.

Thats what I was thinking too...

Forrest 07-27-2009 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by zZSportZz (Post 128261)
Is it me...or was his pick of the BMW sarcastic? Even the crowd laughed. Sounds to me like he picked the 370z...just based on that comment.

He actualy picked the 370z, becuase he hated the 350z so much he coudlnt out right say i choose the 370z so he had to make it sarcastic.

Thats how i took it. Jeremy talks crap thats what he does. I like his crap talking even though he coudltn admit he wanted the 370z

Pharmacist 07-27-2009 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by nightfire (Post 128227)
If you want a great luxury car that turns on a dime and will give you trouble free years as long as you don't abuse it, then you get a BMW.

Tell that to the owners of brand new 335i whose car stalls cuz their fuel pump fails. And based on what i read, the problem plauges not just 07 or 08 but even 09 model years. 3 years and bmw still can't make a fuel pump that works. Apparently even the redesigned upgrade are still prone to failure. Really inexcusable for such an expensive car. And it has nothing to do with abuse or track use either.

BMWs are good as lease cars, just for fun and showing off. But only a lunatic would really own one beyond the warranty expiration.
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My mom had an E46 330ci convertible and that thing rocked for the street, but I would never take it on the track. Now she has a 335i convertible and it's even more enjoyable to drive.
I test drove a 335i coupe with stick shift. It was lots of fun. I have to say the engine smoothness and quiteness, low end torque, and the smooth linear clutch and smooth transmisssion shifting were really pleasurable, quite a notch better than the Z. But the inability to cheaply tune them for track use and the horror stories I read about their reliability turned me to the Z.
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But look at porsche, they're one of the last (if not the last) non-supercar company that has an entire line up of cars that are built for the street and the track
*cough*cayenne*cough*

nightfire 07-27-2009 11:42 PM

I haven't read up too much about tuning the 335 but it can't see how it would be a nightmare to tune being already TT'd and a monster of a motor. But you did say for the TRACK, which it was never made for.

The cayenne yes I have to admit it's a quick SUV, but it's still a big ol' SUV. I don't really know what they were thinking when they made that besides trying to cash in on the US market for a novelty type of car. Not one of my favorites but then again there's never been a car manufacturer that hasn't made some poor model choices along the way.

And the fuel pump issue, hmm I have to research that. I haven't read up a lot about the comments people make toward the car besides initial testing from car magazines etc and my own driving experiences with the car. I do remember them saying something about the overheating issue due to the lack of an oil cooler (just like the Z), but I believe they fixed that for the new model year and retro fitted all previous years with the coolers.

And as far as leasing it and not owning it, I'm not too sure I agree with you on that one but to each his own. I've had experiences with a late model 840ci, two 7 series, and two 3 series and none of them gave us any trouble. And the cars were driven everyday with a decent amount of miles on them. Needless to say they weren't beaten on by any means so I'm sure there were a few problems I potentially avoided by not participating in aggressive street driving with any of them (except the new 335 i'll flog on every once in a while but no problems yet knock on wood).

Mercennarius 07-28-2009 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by nightfire (Post 128322)

And the fuel pump issue, hmm I have to research that.

Check out the BMW forums. The failing fuel pump is a fairly common problem on the new 335/135is...along with a handful of other problems.

rudi 07-28-2009 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Forrest (Post 128281)
He actualy picked the 370z, becuase he hated the 350z so much he coudlnt out right say i choose the 370z so he had to make it sarcastic.

Thats how i took it. Jeremy talks crap thats what he does. I like his crap talking even though he coudltn admit he wanted the 370z

Thats exactly how I saw it. He seemed reluctant to say anything good about the 370 and when he did he made it sound like he had to say it, like it was in the script.

g96818 07-28-2009 04:35 AM

i kinda liked the z4, but o wells, on to bigger and better things :happydance:

CantZme 07-28-2009 06:15 AM

Lmfao,, buy bmw its slower,less exiteing,more expensive, less more equipted.. love it lol

gnarf 07-28-2009 08:57 AM

Dinosaurs?!?!?! what the f***!!!!!!!!!!!!


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