Yeah, you are just dead wrong. In a lot of places tons of patrol LEOs still use constant on K or KA which gets picked up by even shitty cobras miles away. As far as IO goes, as long as you have cars in front of you getting hit you are going to get reflective bounces if you have a good detector. Naturally curvy or hilly areas are going to cut down on your detection range but that's a known fact.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYSCZzq2xEI

Now if you get hit with Lidar then yeah you cooked, but the fact is Lidar is still way more rare than radar and the LEOs using it have to be setup and sitting still. But lidar can be defeated easier than radar with the use of jammers. So that's a moot point.

You're wasting your time. He's made up his mind that they don't work, and no amount of facts, real world experiences or math can change it. Any time his position gets compromised he moves the goalposts.

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Wow, this thread went from helpful to a troll ruining it quickly. For those looking into buying a high end unit. Just read this.

-Look at your area and what cops use, find a unit that will pair up against that. High speed units using laser, traffic cams or van units, etc.
-Use your eyes

Read the review on amazon by ERH for the escort redline this review what you can really expect from one of these detectors.

Argue all you want there are simply to many instances when these radar detectors simply don't work and you will get nailed.

Amazon.com: Customer Reviews: Escort RedLine Radar Detector

Average customer review 4.3 out of 5 for 88 reviews. Are we to understand that all 73 four or five star reviews are biased or corporate shills?

10/88 reviews are two stars or less- 11.36%, meaning 88.64% like their unit. Right in line with all of the other review sites you've given to "support" your argument.

Ok lets pick your one review and pull it apart.

-He put them both on with a few feet of each other, major issue right here. It is known that many detectors can interfere with each other if to close, one reason they are shielded so much on the inside.
-Congrats that he only picked up 2 out of 16 cops he saw. I can pass over 30 cops on my way home from work and only pick up a signal 10% of the time. Many times because the cop is on his way home or to his outpost wanting to clock out, meaning he is not running anything so he does not have to stop. I had one follow me, I was doing 90 and he got next to me and sped up to get to his outpost.
-Finally he played it "safe" by sticking to 5mph over. Good, if he was keeping with the flow of traffic by the sounds of his review, then the cops probably were not watching him. They were waiting for the guy doing 15+mph over and tag him.

Sorry but your 'nitpicking' reviews to prove your point is worthless. There are countless positive reviews to outweight any negative ones you can produce to prove these do provide a defense against radar. Is it a perfect system? No, but it gives the driver another level of awareness and in the end that is what is being sold.

Actually, we can count them lol. Just using his sources we're sitting between 86-90% positive even if we include the reviews that show user error. If we cherrypicked those out we'd be sitting well into the 90s.

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gsxr750 - Go to radardetector.net and check out the V1 and Passport forums to see real world reviews and not some guy on Amazon that seems to be more upset with buying an open box item than the detector itself.

Passport and V1 are like Cannon and Nikon...they are both great products and each brand has fanboys. You can't go wrong either way.

The lower ratings reviews (real world) are most likely from ppl that have a lot of experience with radar detectors and also know the technologies and tactics the police use.

Your higher idiot rating are usually " My wife bought it for me for my birthday or Christmas and looks great out of the box and makes pretty noises, which really amazes me"

You're attributing additional meaning to the reviews that you can in no way justify based on the info given. If you use a sample set, you use the whole thing.

Wait...so now instead of making a valid argument you are reduced to stating the 1-2 star reviews are more highly qualified individuals?

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...jpg?1240934151

Are you saying that a gun (let's say a Ruger) is a bad product because, in the wrong hands a guy could accidentally shoot himself?

I guess what I gather from this - Leave speeding to the pros.

The proof would only be true to you when you get your first $200 - $400 speeding ticket, insurance goes up for 39 months and you say how can this be possible I have a $500 radar/laser detector.

The best defense against speeding tickets is to just set the cruise control at the speed limit and get a good Garmin GPS with the red light camera locations, to warn you of them and prepare to stop.

That isn't proof. There's no way to say you would or wouldn't recieve a ticket with or without a detector because it isn't an all powerful magic device. And "the best defense against speeding tickets is not speeding"- really?

I was hoping you would say this, because BULL-FUCKING-SHIT
And why can I say this? Because I got a ticket doing the speed limit with cruise control on, no other issues. The cop goes, well you are young in a sports car I figured you were doing something wrong. Here is a ticket for speeding, excuse me I was on cruise control. His reply, does not matter I said you were speeding so here you go.