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SuperMiguel 05-09-2013 09:51 PM

One thing that i really like is the support you guys get... look: Forced Induction - Nissan 370Z Forum first 7 post is from companies selling and supporting mods for you guys... You know how many companies are willing to push the genesis past 400 whp? Only one TurboXS... and everytime u change something in your car you cant get it custom tuned it has to be canned tuned which makes you run rich as hell...

JungleZ 05-09-2013 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperMiguel (Post 2309225)
One thing that i really like is the support you guys get... look: Forced Induction - Nissan 370Z Forum first 7 post is from companies selling and supporting mods for you guys... You know how many companies are willing to push the genesis past 400 whp? Only one TurboXS... and everytime u change something in your car you cant get it custom tuned it has to be canned tuned which makes you run rich as hell...

2013 Sport Package 370Z = 37,000$ invoice
Twin Turbo= $10-15,000
Springs + Shocks or Coilovers/sway bars= $1500-$3000
Tires,rear camber kit, Alignment= $2000
Uprev Tuning= ?

I didnt include Clear Bra, Stereo, BBK ss lines.
You decide if thats worth it

SuperMiguel 05-09-2013 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JungleZ (Post 2309232)
2013 Sport Package 370Z = 37,000$ invoice
Twin Turbo= $10-15,000
Springs + Shocks or Coilovers/sway bars= $1500-$3000
Tires,rear camber kit, Alignment= $2000
Uprev Tuning= ?

I didnt include Clear Bra, Stereo, BBK ss lines.
You decide if thats worth it

So i wasnt thinking to get it brand new... but still

2011 370Z = 23000$
Twin Turbo= $10-15,000
Springs + Shocks or Coilovers/sway bars= $1500-$3000
Tires,rear camber kit, Alignment= $2000
Uprev Tuning= ?

still alottt i own 23 on my genesis, ill be lucky if i get that for it.. and have about 12k mods on it

DIGItonium 05-09-2013 10:30 PM

If you had the 350Z and loved it, you won't be disappointed with the 370Z. Interior is much improved over the 350Z, and I still like it very much till this very day. Since you seem to have experience in the modding world, the 370Z has pretty good support.

Depending on your budget, an '09 can be bought for under $25k. There are several turbo options, and GTM's MHI TT kit seems to hit the spot when it comes to price. It'll definitely get you around 500 whp, which is plenty of power. I'm at 450 whp, and it's enough to shred tires with a big fat grin on my face. Power aside, this car sounds great with an aftermarket exhaust. If you want nice and deep sounding without the rasp, it is definitely possible.

So for starters, look at a TT/SC kit for around $5500-7500, 3" exhaust, oil cooler for around $450, aftermarket clutch/flywheel kit, and heavy duty slave cylinder (stock ones will fail), and gauges.

Speaking of tires, deep wheels with appropriate offset, fat tires, and a slight drop FTW!

Z_ealot 05-09-2013 11:17 PM

if you actually bother to take a look at truecar it will clearly tell you that the factory invoice for a 370Z with sport package and nothing else is $34,781 unlike what some people spout out of their mouth here who don't even bother to do research and just to name one dealer who is actually selling at that price here is a link to fontana nissans website 2013 Nissan 370Z in Fontana | Nissan Dealer Fontana | Fontana Nissan Dealer | Nissan Dealer Fontana | Fontana Nissan

theDreamer 05-10-2013 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by JungleZ (Post 2309232)
2013 Sport Package 370Z = 37,000$ invoice
Twin Turbo= $10-15,000
Springs + Shocks or Coilovers/sway bars= $1500-$3000
Tires,rear camber kit, Alignment= $2000
Uprev Tuning= ?

I didnt include Clear Bra, Stereo, BBK ss lines.
You decide if thats worth it

Where are you getting your numbers from?
A brand new Z can be had for under 35k easily, a TT kit with all the fixings (so this includes a tune) is 15k.

OP if you want real numbers:
Car - 25-35k
TT - 8k
Gauges - 1k
Clutch upgrade - 1200

Total: 35,000-45,000

That is all you need to be up & running, if you get the factory BBK you will be fine for awhile. I went 19k miles (then added boost) to 50k miles on the stock BBK rotor, pads, etc before replacing them. Coilovers/springs/wheels/tires are not really needed unless you want so throwing those into the cost is not necessary.

Chuck33079 05-10-2013 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 2309612)
Where are you getting your numbers from?

He's just unhappy about his car purchase and trying to talk others out of buying a Z by bitching and massaging the numbers to make it look bad. Apparently he doesn't understand that his gripes are vastly in the minority, and being the one contrarian on a forum of enthusiasts who completely disagree is a huge waste of time. It's not a perfect vehicle (hint- that doesn't exist), but it's not the POS he seems to want all of us to think it is.

theDreamer 05-10-2013 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2309632)
He's just unhappy about his car purchase and trying to talk others out of buying a Z by bitching and massaging the numbers to make it look bad. Apparently he doesn't understand that his gripes are vastly in the minority, and being the one contrarian on a forum of enthusiasts who completely disagree is a huge waste of time. It's not a perfect vehicle (hint- that doesn't exist), but it's not the POS he seems to want all of us to think it is.

Yep, no car is perfect and by the sounds of the OP he prefers to tinker with cars. Meaning that the brakes are not 100% perfect or the suspension is soft or the exhaust lacks that sports car sound, well that is ok because he is fine with making them better to balance his power or weight changes.

Chuck33079 05-10-2013 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 2309633)
Yep, no car is perfect and by the sounds of the OP he prefers to tinker with cars. Meaning that the brakes are not 100% perfect or the suspension is soft or the exhaust lacks that sports car sound, well that is ok because he is fine with making them better to balance his power or weight changes.

That's the fun part.

SuperMiguel 05-10-2013 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2309638)
That's the fun part.

^

True story

SuperMiguel 05-10-2013 09:25 AM

So is there anything i should look for on a used Z? like which package i should go with?

Any difference power wise between the new ones and the old ones?

Chuck33079 05-10-2013 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by SuperMiguel (Post 2309709)
So is there anything i should look for on a used Z? like which package i should go with?

Any difference power wise between the new ones and the old ones?

Make sure it has the sport package for sure. Power's the same between all years. Get the manual if you're planning on boost. There's a lot more work required to make the auto stand up to the power.

theDreamer 05-10-2013 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2309717)
Make sure it has the sport package for sure. Power's the same between all years. Get the manual if you're planning on boost. There's a lot more work required to make the auto stand up to the power.

:iagree:
09-10 make sure you get the steering lock replaced under warranty if has not been (service records will have this)
If you are going boost you will want an oil cooler, focus on sport package, touring is leather seats with navigation option if you want that.

SuperMiguel 05-10-2013 10:08 AM

maybe im using the wrong site, but autos.yahoo.com doesnt display the package type:

Used Nissan Z cars in Tampa, FL 33614 - Yahoo! Autos

Is there a way to know from the pic?

Chuck33079 05-10-2013 10:10 AM

Look for big brakes and the 19" Volks.

theDreamer 05-10-2013 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2309784)
Look for big brakes and the 19" Volks.

:iagree:
Sport package comes with:
Akebono BBK
19" wheels & tires
Sycro rev match
Rear spoiler
Front chin spoiler (is under the bumper)

Z370Z011 05-10-2013 10:23 AM

If you do decide to get the Z, and want to boost it, then try getting in on this group buy. it will definitely save you a lot of money down the road. The Z is a great car, those who don't like it don't know how to appreciate what the car has to offer. I dont regret my decision at all :tiphat:
http://www.the370z.com/group-buys/68...group-buy.html

SuperMiguel 05-10-2013 10:41 AM

problem is finding a way to sell mine :) i own 23k on it.. if i get that ill be happy.. but i may have to take all the mods out, sell it and just trade it to the dealer

theDreamer 05-10-2013 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by SuperMiguel (Post 2309825)
problem is finding a way to sell mine :) i own 23k on it.. if i get that ill be happy.. but i may have to take all the mods out, sell it and just trade it to the dealer

Reverting your car back to stock & selling anything aftermarket will net the biggest returns.
Selling to the dealer is easy and will help on tax savings, but usually they will pay a lower cost, just have to weight the options.

SuperMiguel 05-10-2013 10:47 AM

ya i kinda want to take it to the dealer and ask them straight up how much i would get for my car with all the stock parts.. and go calculate from there

Chuck33079 05-10-2013 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by SuperMiguel (Post 2309836)
ya i kinda want to take it to the dealer and ask them straight up how much i would get for my car with all the stock parts.. and go calculate from there

Or try to sell it as is on the genesis forum first.

kenchan 05-10-2013 10:55 AM

the 370z is more for a guy that has played with all sorts of mods while young and now want a GT type sportscar that is comfy to drive on the streets, and needs very little to make it fun to own.

i dont think the 370Z is for you, op. unless you like the shape.

SuperMiguel 05-10-2013 10:59 AM

"guy that has played with all sorts of mods while young and now want a GT type sportscar that is comfy to drive on the streets"

Sounds like me!

why dont you think the z is for me?

lemon-fresh 05-10-2013 11:05 AM

The wanting 400whp+ part.

SuperMiguel 05-10-2013 11:24 AM

What's you guys opinion on the Cadillac CTS coupe one?

Chuck33079 05-10-2013 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by SuperMiguel (Post 2309906)
What's you guys opinion on the Cadillac CTS coupe one?

The V is awesome. The 3.8 not so much.

UNKNOWN_370 05-10-2013 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2309847)
the 370z is more for a guy that has played with all sorts of mods while young and now want a GT type sportscar that is comfy to drive on the streets, and needs very little to make it fun to own.

i dont think the 370Z is for you, op. unless you like the shape.

I kinda agree and disagree. It could be what you said. But the Z is great with mods. It's not better stock. And I see it as a stock car for middle class people and a moddable car for upper middle class people. Considering the cost and extensive mod needs for personalization. But those mods work so well. I consider the Z a high priced tuner car for those who can afford to.

kenchan 05-10-2013 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2310041)
I kinda agree and disagree. It could be what you said. But the Z is great with mods. It's not better stock. And I see it as a stock car for middle class people and a moddable car for upper middle class people. Considering the cost and extensive mod needs for personalization. But those mods work so well. I consider the Z a high priced tuner car for those who can afford to.

you are entitled to your own opinion, ofcourse.

UNKNOWN_370 05-10-2013 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2310115)
you are entitled to your own opinion, ofcourse.

Of course:tiphat:

m4a1mustang 05-10-2013 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2310115)
you are entitled to your own opinion, ofcourse.

Any car can be anything to anyone. :hello:

kenchan 05-10-2013 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperMiguel (Post 2309851)
"guy that has played with all sorts of mods while young and now want a GT type sportscar that is comfy to drive on the streets"

Sounds like me!

why dont you think the z is for me?

Quote:

Originally Posted by lemon-fresh (Post 2309859)
The wanting 400whp+ part.

+1 the 370Z is a street sports car in its natural form. if you have the need to mod it extensively, probably best you keep the car you have now that's already making the power you want.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperMiguel (Post 2309906)
What's you guys opinion on the Cadillac CTS coupe one?

i think the grandpa neighbor looks good in that car.

kenchan 05-10-2013 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2310126)
Any car can be anything to anyone. :hello:

that is too general.. :icon17:

m4a1mustang 05-10-2013 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2310132)
that is too general.. :icon17:

But so true!

kenchan 05-10-2013 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2310135)
But so true!

true... even a corolla can be considered a car. :ugh2:

back to topic. :D not here to talk about appliances.

dcnj610 05-10-2013 02:56 PM

If modding is a priority why not and sti or an evo?

OldGuy 05-10-2013 03:14 PM

If you buy a Z, you will have a much more impressive and prestigious car. Do it.

faya 05-10-2013 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2310138)
true... even a corolla can be considered a car. :ugh2:

back to topic. :D not here to talk about appliances.

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kenchan 05-10-2013 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by faya (Post 2310319)
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woah... i hope i did not offend anyone here.

DLSTR 05-10-2013 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2310041)
I kinda agree and disagree. It could be what you said. But the Z is great with mods. It's not better stock. And I see it as a stock car for middle class people and a moddable car for upper middle class people. Considering the cost and extensive mod needs for personalization. But those mods work so well. I consider the Z a high priced tuner car for those who can afford to.

You would feel differently about class and speed and this car if you could drive it like I do here in Germany. Bone stock. The class part is particularly irrelevant to the discussion. Its crass to put it mildly.

This car will double the US speed limit stock. In fact it will exceed the 155 limiter if disabled, stock.

I consider the Z much more than a high priced tuner car. It came nicely tuned from the factory given its cost factor. Its not a tuner car. Define that and your post might just matter.

kenchan 05-10-2013 03:58 PM

im with DLSTR on the 370Z. it's a great car out of the box. i just did some minor tweaks to make it mine. that's really all the car needs.


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