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houkouonchi 05-06-2013 06:28 PM

Stranded on the freeway twice in one month (fuel starvation)
 
So I have had fuel starvation in the past (mainly on the track) but never actually got stranded from it (just lost power for a few seconds).

I only had it happen once on the road and that was in a hard/long right turn and I was very low in gas (2 dots).

Fast forward to recently...

Well the day before my birthday last month taking a big 270 degree off-ramp which i took kinda hard but had over a quarter tank so didn't think it would be a problem but sure enough I got stranded. Kind of in a bad spot too I let my car roll down a bit to get in a better spot. I was hoping it would recover like in the past but later I realized that because it was so uphill it did not recover.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXDt76b6BCg

Here is where it happened (where onram/offramp started and I ended up):

https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=C...sz=18&t=m&z=18

And today. Less than a month of getting stranded on the 71 now I got it on the 15 south. I really was not expecting it this time. I was down to 3 dots but it wasn't that hard of a right turn. I lost power as I was accelerating and shortly after I got into third gear. Not only was the right not very sharp but the incline was much less this time again but i guess due to it being up-hil the car can't recover. After filling it up after I still had > 2 gallons of gas left.

Videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5hOXqiEtCU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riK2oSCdoI4

This one happened here (where onram/offramp started and I ended up):

https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=U...sz=18&t=m&z=18

Seems to me that this is going to happen at a bad time for someone at some point and possibly cause an accident and Nissan is going to get hit with a lawsuit. I wish they had a fix for this. Needless to say I am going to be extra careful from now on.

kenchan 05-06-2013 06:31 PM

sorry to hear...

i thought the rule of thumb was half mark is considered empty for fast driving.

JungleZ 05-06-2013 06:41 PM

Pm depoint something , tell him to get crazy with Nissan for you

SPOHN 05-06-2013 07:07 PM

There's a fix for it. But it's going to cost yea

122554 05-06-2013 07:11 PM

Don't want to state the obvious, but:

Fill it up more often!

onzedge 05-06-2013 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 122554 (Post 2303256)
Don't want to state the obvious, but:

Fill it up more often!

:iagree:

Apoc370z 05-06-2013 07:30 PM

How fast were you driving/cornering to get fuel starved on on ramps?

Never happen to me even when i was driving with low fuel on canyon roads or freeway transitions.

Bucketlist2012 05-06-2013 07:30 PM

Yep....You need to run a half a tank to drive hard...These cars do no like being below 1/4 tank....Is it a flaw ? Yes, but it is the way it is...

Bucketlist2012 05-06-2013 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apoc370z (Post 2303303)
How fast were you driving/cornering to get fuel starved on on ramps?

Never happen to me even when i was driving with low fuel on canyon roads or freeway transitions.

You know living in California, we have some of the best Cloverleaf On / Off ramps...

I have a spot where I run the figure 8 and never get on the Highway....Over and over and over again....:driving:

onzedge 05-06-2013 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apoc370z (Post 2303303)
How fast were you driving/cornering to get fuel starved on on ramps?

Never happen to me even when i was driving with low fuel on canyon roads or freeway transitions.

The OP has a habit of reckless driving and road rage -- he has posted numerous videos of 65 plus MPH downtown LA exhibitions (in traffic) and has also regaled us with various anger-driven retribution against other drivers who go too slow in the fast lane for his tastes. He avenges himself with wanton windshield washer attacks against those fools who get in his way.

Apoc370z 05-06-2013 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 2303441)
The OP has a habit of reckless driving and road rage -- he has posted numerous videos of 65 plus MPH downtown LA exhibitions (in traffic) and has also regaled us with various anger-driven retribution against other drivers who go too slow in the fast lane for his tastes. He avenges himself with wanton windshield washer attacks against those fools who get in his way.

oh.... :wtf2:

houkouonchi 05-06-2013 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apoc370z (Post 2303303)
How fast were you driving/cornering to get fuel starved on on ramps?

Never happen to me even when i was driving with low fuel on canyon roads or freeway transitions.

On the 15 onramp it probably only about 25 through the actual turn and then only got up to 50-ish when fuel starvation kicked in (a few seconds after the initial turn). Was really surprised on this one as it wasn't that hard of a turn.

On the 71 onramp it was probably 30-35-ish and same thing heavy acceleration after that up to about 65 and then fuel starvation (although that one was banking right).

I definitely will be a lot more careful when am under 1/2 tank now. I think the significant factor in whether or not its recoverable once it starts is if are going uphill at all or not. Even a slight amount uphill seems to make it irrecoverable without adding more gas in it.

In the 3 years I have had the car ive only had fuel starvation happen 3 times on the public road (twice on the track) and only two of these (on the road) actually resulted in getting stranded.

Filling up every-time the gas tank is <1/2 tank just to avoid this is kind of ridiculous though. I will likely just be more careful when its under 1/2 tank to avoid it from happening.

Still not cool though Nissan...

houkouonchi 05-06-2013 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 2303441)
The OP has a habit of reckless driving and road rage -- he has posted numerous videos of 65 plus MPH downtown LA exhibitions (in traffic) and has also regaled us with various anger-driven retribution against other drivers who go too slow in the fast lane for his tastes. He avenges himself with wanton windshield washer attacks against those fools who get in his way.

Exaggerate/Lie much? Yeah I went up to 65 MPH-ish for a very short period of time getting around someone who pulled out and just stopped in blocking the lane. Not the best decision at the time I will admit but it was 10PM and not that much traffic.

I have only once used my windshield to spray someone only after they first did it to me right after I had my car washed. Had nothing to do with the speed they were driving...

Please show me an example of retribution against drivers who go to slow in the fast lane? I don't even know where you got that from.

At the time I posted those video's it is when I recording myself whenever I was driving my car so that is just a highlight of things that happened. You act as if that was my norm or something. Because yeah I just get randomly cut off and people spray me with windshield wiper fluid every single day.

Onzedge you are such an ***. On my ignore list but the only reason I saw your response was because of Apoc370z quote of your message.

Haboob 05-07-2013 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by houkouonchi (Post 2303772)
Onzedge you are such an ***. On my ignore list but the only reason I saw your response was because of Apoc370z quote of your message.

:eek: Onz, you've made another one! :icon17: :rolleyes:

onzedge 05-07-2013 05:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haboob (Post 2303920)
:eek: Onz, you've made another one! :icon17: :rolleyes:

In that case, my work here is done. :tup:

onzedge 05-07-2013 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by houkouonchi (Post 2303772)
Exaggerate/Lie much? Yeah I went up to 65 MPH-ish for a very short period of time getting around someone who pulled out and just stopped in blocking the lane. Not the best decision at the time I will admit but it was 10PM and not that much traffic.

I have only once used my windshield to spray someone only after they first did it to me right after I had my car washed. Had nothing to do with the speed they were driving...

Please show me an example of retribution against drivers who go to slow in the fast lane? I don't even know where you got that from.

At the time I posted those video's it is when I recording myself whenever I was driving my car so that is just a highlight of things that happened. You act as if that was my norm or something. Because yeah I just get randomly cut off and people spray me with windshield wiper fluid every single day.

Onzedge you are such an ***. On my ignore list but the only reason I saw your response was because of Apoc370z quote of your message.

As ye reap, so shall ye sow. I stand by my post -- behavior like yours helps to give intelligent and thoughtful Z owners a bad name.

By the way, it's Mr. onzedge to you, boy.

Have a great day and thank you for your thoughtful posts.

Cyberium 05-07-2013 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 2303966)
As ye reap, so shall ye sow. I stand by my post -- behavior like yours helps to give intelligent and thoughtful Z owners a bad name.

By the way, it's Mr. onzedge to you, boy.

Have a great day and thank you for your thoughtful posts.

I remember this idiot... he drives around with a video recorder going all the time just hoping to catch a situation where he can show us all how cool he is.

I remember that one video where he was tailgating someone on the highway and they just so happened to use their windshield washer fluid (how dare they) and a little over-spray hit his car. Then he act's like a total *** and gets in front of the car, slams on his brakes and then uses his windshield spray and hit's their car.

Real mature.

Then another video where he's flying down some busy street at night and a car happens to pull out from a side street to see if any traffic is coming. Of course, we have this idiot speeding down the road so he slams on his brakes and almost hits the car. Then he acts all cool and floors it around the car and speeds down the road.

I couldn't agree more that this type of behavior give's Z drivers a bad name. Add the fact that he records all of these encounters and posts them for the world to see to get positive reinforcement for his actions is icing on the cake.

:shakes head:

onzedge 05-07-2013 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyberium (Post 2304013)
I remember this idiot... he drives around with a video recorder going all the time just hoping to catch a situation where he can show us all how cool he is.

I remember that one video where he was tailgating someone on the highway and they just so happened to use their windshield washer fluid (how dare they) and a little over-spray hit his car. Then he act's like a total *** and gets in front of the car, slams on his brakes and then uses his windshield spray and hit's their car.

Real mature.

Then another video where he's flying down some busy street at night and a car happens to pull out from a side street to see if any traffic is coming. Of course, we have this idiot speeding down the road so he slams on his brakes and almost hits the car. Then he acts all cool and floors it around the car and speeds down the road.

I couldn't agree more that this type of behavior give's Z drivers a bad name. Add the fact that he records all of these encounters and posts them for the world to see to get positive reinforcement for his actions is icing on the cake.

:shakes head:

That's the guy. He's my hero. :icon17:

Chuck33079 05-07-2013 07:02 AM

If someone is experiencing fuel starvation on the street, slow the hell down. Problem solved.

SurfDog 05-07-2013 07:40 AM

If you begin to sputter in a long right hander, can you straighten out at low speed and kind of wiggle back and forth to slosh some gas back over to the right side of the hump??? Coast to straight and reprime your right side fuel pump???

Also how much gas to get her running again? Could I carry a gallon or so around to avoid being stranded? I assume that the pump is on the right and so is the gas cap so a small amount of emergency gas would suffice.

Cyberium 05-07-2013 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SurfDog (Post 2304085)
If you begin to sputter in a long right hander, can you straighten out at low speed and kind of wiggle back and forth to slosh some gas back over to the right side of the hump??? Coast to straight and reprime your right side fuel pump???

Also how much gas to get her running again? Could I carry a gallon or so around to avoid being stranded? I assume that the pump is on the right and so is the gas cap so a small amount of emergency gas would suffice.

I suppose if you catch the sputtering quick enough you will be able to get gas back into the system by straightening it out... but usually it's too late.

It's really not that hard to keep the fuel tank above half-full. I mean, sure it's kind of a pain in the *** but if it's THAT big of an issue for people, the solution is fairly simple.

As for carrying a gas can in your car... uh, I suppose 1 gal would be enough to get it going again. Your car will smell like a gas-station, but whatever works for you.

Just pour the gas in, hit the start button twice to turn the fuel pump on and wait a few minutes for it to suck gas back into the system and it should start right up.

...or you can keep your gas tank half-full and never have to worry.

wstar 05-07-2013 09:30 AM

It would be a whole hell of a lot easier to just not let the main gas tank get low. Way easier than getting stranded, or keeping a smelly gas can in the car. Or not pull through corners that hard on the street. Or some combination of the two.

Bucketlist2012 05-07-2013 09:34 AM

[QUOTE=houkouonchi;2303772]Exaggerate/Lie much? people spray me with windshield wiper fluid every single day.


I am quoting YOUR words.....You get sprayed everyday with wiper fluid ?

And you don't think you are the problem ? Too funny...Tailgate much ?

OnZedge must be right on the money... I drive fast, I drive hard, and i can be agressive...

In 35 years of driving I maybe had 2 people do that....And that was years ago when I drove stupid....

onzedge 05-07-2013 09:38 AM

[QUOTE=Bucketlist2012;2304213]
Quote:

Originally Posted by houkouonchi (Post 2303772)
Exaggerate/Lie much? people spray me with windshield wiper fluid every single day.


I am quoting YOUR words.....You get sprayed everyday with wiper fluid ?

And you don't think you are the problem ? Too funny...Tailgate much ?

OnZedge must be right on the money... I drive fast, I drive hard, and i can be agressive...

In 35 years of driving I maybe had 2 people do that....And that was years ago when I drove stupid....

:tiphat:

UNKNOWN_370 05-07-2013 10:11 AM

Sorry to hear... I corner so damn hard at warp speeds and can't make this happen.

CDepp 05-07-2013 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by houkouonchi (Post 2303772)
Exaggerate/Lie much? Yeah I went up to 65 MPH-ish for a very short period of time getting around someone who pulled out and just stopped in blocking the lane. Not the best decision at the time I will admit but it was 10PM and not that much traffic.

I have only once used my windshield to spray someone only after they first did it to me right after I had my car washed. Had nothing to do with the speed they were driving...

Please show me an example of retribution against drivers who go to slow in the fast lane? I don't even know where you got that from.

At the time I posted those video's it is when I recording myself whenever I was driving my car so that is just a highlight of things that happened. You act as if that was my norm or something. Because yeah I just get randomly cut off and people spray me with windshield wiper fluid every single day.

Onzedge you are such an ***. On my ignore list but the only reason I saw your response was because of Apoc370z quote of your message.



"They did it first" is a child's response, not an adult's. :shakes head:

You sound as if you're not driving 3,500 lbs of metal around on the streets. Or, you sound as if you are driving around 3,500 lbs of metal on the streets and don't realize the responsibility that comes with that. Who the f**k cares if you got sprayed?! Calm down. Human adults and human children stand no change of going up against 3,500+ lbs of metal. Think about your arguments and say them out loud. You might then realize how insecure and childish they sound to us.

If I spray you and you get mad, I win. Regardless of what you do next, I won. Because you're incapable of being an adult and controlling your emotions, I won. don't allow other's actions to dictate your emotions.

onzedge 05-07-2013 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2304269)
Sorry to hear... I corner so damn hard at warp speeds and can't make this happen.

Your Karma is better than his. That's the truth.

onzedge 05-07-2013 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDepp (Post 2304284)
"They did it first" is a child's response, not an adult's. :shakes head:

You sound as if you're not driving 3,500 lbs of metal around on the streets. Or, you sound as if you are driving around 3,500 lbs of metal on the streets and don't realize the responsibility that comes with that. Who the f**k cares if you got sprayed. Calm down. If I spray you and you get mad, I win. Regardless of what you do next, I won. Because you're incapable of being an adult and controlling your emotions, I won.

:tup:

UNKNOWN_370 05-07-2013 10:20 AM

You guys should try Nut-N-Fancy's Shepherd's pie. :yum:

Chuck33079 05-07-2013 10:25 AM

I'm not supposed to use my windshield washers because the guy behind me may catch some overspray? If you're close enough behind me that you catch some overspray, you're too close to my bumper. Flip out on the wrong guy about spraying you and you might end up with more problems than a few water spots. Fact: there's always someone crazier than you. That's why I don't drive like a complete tool.

onzedge 05-07-2013 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2304299)
You guys should try Nut-N-Fancy's Shepherd's pie. :yum:

I love shepherd's pie!!!

Comfort food is some of my favorite. We are headed to some Irish pub-like place tonight in Maple Grove, MN that apparently has a good version of it.

onzedge 05-07-2013 10:26 AM

I love this thread.

JARblue 05-07-2013 10:33 AM

:iagree:

CDepp 05-07-2013 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by houkouonchi (Post 2303772)
Exaggerate/Lie much? Yeah I went up to 65 MPH-ish for a very short period of time getting around someone who pulled out and just stopped in blocking the lane. Not the best decision at the time I will admit but it was 10PM and not that much traffic.

I have only once used my windshield to spray someone only after they first did it to me right after I had my car washed. Had nothing to do with the speed they were driving...

Please show me an example of retribution against drivers who go to slow in the fast lane? I don't even know where you got that from.

At the time I posted those video's it is when I recording myself whenever I was driving my car so that is just a highlight of things that happened. You act as if that was my norm or something. Because yeah I just get randomly cut off and people spray me with windshield wiper fluid every single day.

Onzedge you are such an ***. On my ignore list but the only reason I saw your response was because of Apoc370z quote of your message.

To every car that hits a motorcycle and says, "I didn't see them", there has to be many more that just miss a motorcycle and say, "it's cool, there wasn't much traffic", or "I changed lanes because it was open". I cannot tell you how many times I had to jump lanes on my bike because another driver thought "there wasn't anyone there" to themselves and never saw me even well after the incident. Please be careful when operating several thousands of pounds of metal on the street.

JARblue 05-07-2013 10:38 AM

I let my gas tank practically empty before I get gas almost every time. I drive plenty hard, and I have never experienced fuel starvation. Maybe some day I will :ugh2: I don't quite understand the scenario of exiting the freeway at 25 mph and then speeding up to 50+ on the offramp, but Onz, Cyberium, and Bucketlist seem to be dead on in their assessment of the OP.

Apoc370z 05-07-2013 12:44 PM

I should make a video of me chucking pennies out the sun roof while going 100mph on the freeway.

Oh wait.. We dont have sunroofs....

Haboob 05-07-2013 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apoc370z (Post 2304519)
I should make a video of me chucking pennies out the sun roof while going 100mph on the freeway.

Oh wait.. We dont have sunroofs....

A sawzall can resolve that! :ugh2:

DLSTR 05-07-2013 01:10 PM

Great thing about Germany - Serious road rage gets you a visit with the Polizei and possibly a visit to a shrink. Then you also might lose your license and driving privilege as well. Germans will absolutely call road rage in and then you get the inquiry from the Polizei.

The OP wouldnt last a week here.

kenchan 05-07-2013 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DLSTR (Post 2304567)
Great thing about Germany - Serious road rage gets you a visit with the Polizei and possibly a visit to a shrink. Then you also might lose your license and driving privilege as well. Germans will absolutely call road rage in and then you get the inquiry from the Polizei.

The OP wouldnt last a week here.

ive heard about this... :tup:

but the irony is that it is they that build the cars for global douchebaggery... :ugh2:

DEpointfive0 05-07-2013 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DLSTR (Post 2304567)
Great thing about Germany - Serious road rage gets you a visit with the Polizei and possibly a visit to a shrink. Then you also might lose your license and driving privilege as well. Germans will absolutely call road rage in and then you get the inquiry from the Polizei.

The OP wouldnt last a week here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2304588)
ive heard about this... :tup:

but the irony is that it is they that build the cars for global douchebaggery... :ugh2:

:icon18:

I have heard about it too, I have also been told that you can get tickets on the freeways, EVEN THE NURBURGRING for passing on the right side, LOL


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