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DIGItonium 04-22-2013 08:06 AM

The price of the engine alone is more than enough to fund a monster build with the existing block with money to spare.

iamwagz 04-22-2013 08:31 AM

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Nissan V8 swap here in Australia is the wildest I've seen (VK45 I believe) but as someone said, with money anything is possible. Don't see why you wouldn't just buy a GTR for the money it'd cost you though.

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theDreamer 04-22-2013 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkJak (Post 2278246)
The Juke-R cost $500,000 to buy when they offered a limited run, I believe. That's might give some idea of the work needed to make it work. Then again, they also fitted the transission and AWD system, but just engine would be insanely expensive. At that price, you could to a TT stroker setup and it'd cost less and put out more power. Then get a stage 4 transmission from GTM.

The reason for the high cost though with the Juke-R is not so much the work that has to be done, but because you have to buy 2 cars. You buy the GT-R & the Juke and they piece it all together with some other upgrades, so starting off you are already out the door 130k-ish before any work is done.

40th370z 04-22-2013 10:46 AM

Are you going to be involved in the next Z's incarnation Randy.

Pretty cool when the current Z's designer wants to know the answer to this question...

Is it possible this could be the next Z's powerplant?

DIGItonium 04-22-2013 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 40th370z (Post 2278530)
Are you going to be involved in the next Z's incarnation Randy.

Pretty cool when the current Z's designer wants to know the answer to this question...

Is it possible this could be the next Z's powerplant?

No way. The cost of the motor alone is at least $20k USD (versus $6k for a VQ37). They only have enough production capacity to hand built motors for the GT-R, which is low volume compared to the Z.

Cmike2780 04-22-2013 03:51 PM

It's kind of a pointless swap given the cost as others have posted. I can see the apeal, but once you get to a certain point, it's almost silly to do so given the amount of time and money you'd have to invest. Even then, you won't come anywhere close to the performance of the GT-R without the entire awd drivetrain. Heck, some of the 370z builds I've seen exceed a stock VR38DETT's numbers. If you're crazy enough to do it, rest assured, we'll all be drooling over the maddness.

11Thumper 04-23-2013 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 2279134)
It's kind of a pointless swap given the cost as others have posted. I can see the apeal, but once you get to a certain point, it's almost silly to do so given the amount of time and money you'd have to invest. Even then, you won't come anywhere close to the performance of the GT-R without the entire awd drivetrain. Heck, some of the 370z builds I've seen exceed a stock VR38DETT's numbers. If you're crazy enough to do it, rest assured, we'll all be drooling over the maddness.

GTR swap into a G37x? :stirthepot:

roy'sz 04-23-2013 02:57 AM

gtr swap into a m45!

Jordo! 04-23-2013 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by 11Thumper (Post 2280131)
GTR swap into a G37x? :stirthepot:

On that note, I've wondered why no one has taken a G37X drivetrain, put in a Z and boosted the hell out of it.

Then you have AWD FI Z at a fraction of the cost of doing it any other way I can think of, and virtually everything should be a direct fit.

Is the X AWD not that stout or all that good or something? Is anyone boosting them in a G for that matter?

Chuck33079 04-23-2013 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 2280432)
On that note, I've wondered why no one has taken a G37X drivetrain, put in a Z and boosted the hell out of it.

Because it's auto only. :mad:

Cmike2780 04-23-2013 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 2280432)
On that note, I've wondered why no one has taken a G37X drivetrain, put in a Z and boosted the hell out of it.

Then you have AWD FI Z at a fraction of the cost of doing it any other way I can think of, and virtually everything should be a direct fit.

Is the X AWD not that stout or all that good or something? Is anyone boosting them in a G for that matter?

Slapping the G37x's drivetrain into the Z is plausable, but likely expensive as hell. You'd be better off sticking with the G37x and boosting it. You won't really be gaining much by switching bodies....just a whole lot of headache.

I don't know enough about the AWD system on the G, but I believe the GT-R's system has virtually nothing in common with that setup. It has a DCT for one, a transaxle & of course the ATTESA E-TS system.

Stuff like GT-R engine swaps is best left to those insane enough to do it and the bank to back it up. The only scenario where this sort of makes sense is if someone can get their hands on a dirt cheap VR38DETT and have the technical skills to pull it off on their own. Heck, people have done a lot more just for bragging rights.

Mt Tam I am 04-23-2013 09:45 AM

I remember seeing a crated GTR engine for sale and discussed here, some time ago. I had hoped it found it's way into a 370.

Jordo! 04-23-2013 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2280448)
Because it's auto only. :mad:

So the trans needs to be built to handle it...? Is it a poor performer relative to the regular Z AT? Poorer gearing, for example?

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 2280504)
Slapping the G37x's drivetrain into the Z is plausable, but likely expensive as hell. You'd be better off sticking with the G37x and boosting it. You won't really be gaining much by switching bodies....just a whole lot of headache.

I don't know enough about the AWD system on the G, but I believe the GT-R's system has virtually nothing in common with that setup. It has a DCT for one, a transaxle & of course the ATTESA E-TS system.

I figured they were different, but unless it can't handle the extra torque or just isn't a very good design for performance applications, I don't see why that wouldn't make for a pretty awesome car.

jcosta79 04-23-2013 09:59 AM

It can be done, but it would cost twice as much as a used GTR and you would end up with a car that was half as good.

DIGItonium 04-23-2013 12:02 PM

There were some '09 GT-R engines that were recalled/replaced due to gasket contamination or soft bearings. Anyone who gets a hold of one would need to rebuild the entire thing.
So I went out and bought a European Recall Engine :) - GT-R Register - Official Nissan Skyline and GTR Owners Club forum


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