370z with gtr engine swap. Has anyone done this yet?
 

370z with GTR engine swap. Has anyone done this yet?

If you can get a Gtr engine in a juke, a Titan engine into a G35 then surely this is possible. You see 240z all the time with Rb engines. It's been a few years since the 370 and GTR have been out so I would have thought someone would have done this by now.

Hey Randy,

I don't think it's been done because of the expense, But I'm sure if you throw enough money at something it's possible.

I think most have opted to go FI, and I've heard rumors of an V8 swap though But not confirmed.

anything is possible when money isn't an issue

If one were to do this they should call up ams for their setup. That would be SICK!!! But most likely unrealistic.

I have never seen this done on any Z, ever

Rocket Bunny put a R35 drivetrain into a S14 and Nissan europe but one in a Juke but that's it

the cost to do it would most likely be through the roof. which is why no one has reportedly done it before, I mean when Nissan did the Juke-R they had to basically reconfigure everything while still maintaining everything about a GTR. in a much smaller SUV compact package...... the price for one if Nissan did it would (I would imagine) be up there around the Juke R price range ( 450 k or so)

Rocketbunny did it recently in a S13 180SX not sure if thats the one you're referring to or not. OP like others have said if you throw enough money at it anything is possible, but jusy because you can doesn't.mean you should. Just get a stroker kit and go TT or throw a stroked out titan V8 and TT that, either of the above will be much more cost effective, and may even have better performance if done right.



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I've seen 3 300Z's in person with RB25's or RB26's ... but it's been years since I've seen that done. There's a guy here in town with a blue 300Z with an RB motor.

To do such thing would go deep into your pockets might as well just get a GT-R and call it a day. Anything is possible but for the right price. I would love to see it dont get me wrong.

Nissan did release a limited amount of 3.8L 370z's but they were japanese only. I dont think it included the turbo though.

From my memory(whic may be wrong)-Each GTR engine is built by hand and assembled by the same tech. Because of this, the transmission is built specifically to work with the particular motor for a single GTR. There's a variation between each GTR off the line in terms of hp and torque. For less money, and headache, you can get better hp than a GTR engine.

"each engine is hand built, and each one therefore is a little bit different"

I think I read it from the 2013 brochure while I was getting some work done at the dealership. Each car, built by hand, by one technician, for the entire build.

The technician probably drives Ferrari then......He see's too much of this car to get one for himself. Hell if I'd build them every day of my life, just to get in one to go home lol.

The Juke-R cost $500,000 to buy when they offered a limited run, I believe. That's might give some idea of the work needed to make it work. Then again, they also fitted the transission and AWD system, but just engine would be insanely expensive. At that price, you could to a TT stroker setup and it'd cost less and put out more power. Then get a stage 4 transmission from GTM.

The price of the engine alone is more than enough to fund a monster build with the existing block with money to spare.

Nissan V8 swap here in Australia is the wildest I've seen (VK45 I believe) but as someone said, with money anything is possible. Don't see why you wouldn't just buy a GTR for the money it'd cost you though.

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The reason for the high cost though with the Juke-R is not so much the work that has to be done, but because you have to buy 2 cars. You buy the GT-R & the Juke and they piece it all together with some other upgrades, so starting off you are already out the door 130k-ish before any work is done.

Are you going to be involved in the next Z's incarnation Randy.

Pretty cool when the current Z's designer wants to know the answer to this question...

Is it possible this could be the next Z's powerplant?

No way. The cost of the motor alone is at least $20k USD (versus $6k for a VQ37). They only have enough production capacity to hand built motors for the GT-R, which is low volume compared to the Z.

It's kind of a pointless swap given the cost as others have posted. I can see the apeal, but once you get to a certain point, it's almost silly to do so given the amount of time and money you'd have to invest. Even then, you won't come anywhere close to the performance of the GT-R without the entire awd drivetrain. Heck, some of the 370z builds I've seen exceed a stock VR38DETT's numbers. If you're crazy enough to do it, rest assured, we'll all be drooling over the maddness.

GTR swap into a G37x? :stirthepot:

gtr swap into a m45!

On that note, I've wondered why no one has taken a G37X drivetrain, put in a Z and boosted the hell out of it.

Then you have AWD FI Z at a fraction of the cost of doing it any other way I can think of, and virtually everything should be a direct fit.

Is the X AWD not that stout or all that good or something? Is anyone boosting them in a G for that matter?

Because it's auto only. :mad:

Slapping the G37x's drivetrain into the Z is plausable, but likely expensive as hell. You'd be better off sticking with the G37x and boosting it. You won't really be gaining much by switching bodies....just a whole lot of headache.

I don't know enough about the AWD system on the G, but I believe the GT-R's system has virtually nothing in common with that setup. It has a DCT for one, a transaxle & of course the ATTESA E-TS system.

Stuff like GT-R engine swaps is best left to those insane enough to do it and the bank to back it up. The only scenario where this sort of makes sense is if someone can get their hands on a dirt cheap VR38DETT and have the technical skills to pull it off on their own. Heck, people have done a lot more just for bragging rights.

I remember seeing a crated GTR engine for sale and discussed here, some time ago. I had hoped it found it's way into a 370.

So the trans needs to be built to handle it...? Is it a poor performer relative to the regular Z AT? Poorer gearing, for example?

I figured they were different, but unless it can't handle the extra torque or just isn't a very good design for performance applications, I don't see why that wouldn't make for a pretty awesome car.

It can be done, but it would cost twice as much as a used GTR and you would end up with a car that was half as good.

There were some '09 GT-R engines that were recalled/replaced due to gasket contamination or soft bearings. Anyone who gets a hold of one would need to rebuild the entire thing.
So I went out and bought a European Recall Engine :) - GT-R Register - Official Nissan Skyline and GTR Owners Club forum

S13 S14, same differnence since you knew what I was talking about :icon18:

Simple solution: Body kit to make GT-R look more like the Z. Front and rear bumpers, at least, could be made fairly easily.

Definitely cheaper and easier to do than shoehorning the GT-R parts into another car :p

I have seen salvage title cars with running motors as low as $15k. No reason why couldn't score reasonably priced motor?

IMO, the motor is just for bragging rights. The basic foundation of the VR block is the VQ design, and the cylinders are sleeveless. IIRC, built VR blocks end up sleeved anyways. For the price of the motor, one can get engine parts that exceed the rating of the OEM parts in the VR block.

The difference is VVEL. The VR block drops VVEL due to a low cost to performance benefit, which is completely understandable given that VVEL is might be the weak link in an endurance situation.

However, if you can find a salvaged block for under $3k, more power to you. Heck, I wouldn't mind a spare VQ37 block for $300-500 (which I missed out on over a year ago).

Amything can be done with an endless budget

This would be a massive amount of work