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hey32g 07-21-2009 07:17 PM

No Burnouts With the A7?
 
I was reading an article today (see below), and they mentioned that in the A7 they were not able to spin the rear tires. They said the engine management system cuts in and reduces the power even though the traction control has been turned off.

Is this true?

If so, is there a flash that fixes it?

In a sense, this 370Z is supposed to be Nissan’s Mustang. That means the Nissan needs to be able to do a huge, smoky burnout. Just one problem – it can’t. We tried. The traction control was off, but apparently “off” is a relative term with the automatic transmission model. Even with the electronic nannies turned off, the computer controlling the motor will still cut the power off at the first hint of wheel spin. It’s a result that left a colleague and I sitting in an empty industrial park with a cabin filled of disbelief rather than smoke. In fact, in several conditions, we found the traction control overbearing, stepping in when we’d have rather it didn’t.
Quick Spin: 2009 Nissan 370Z Touring automatic [Review]

Roo 07-21-2009 07:44 PM

I have floored the car from a stop with VDC off and the tires spun till the car got sideways.

shabarivas 07-21-2009 07:44 PM

Brake boost it and it will spin the tires...that or these idiots didnt know how to turn it off...

frost 07-21-2009 07:51 PM

I get it loose.

cg370z 07-21-2009 08:44 PM

i spin

rudi 07-21-2009 08:45 PM

I even get a chirp from the tires with VDC on, no problem with VDC off. Although, I must admit I haven't done a full proper burnout.

Rudi.

Trips 07-21-2009 08:49 PM

I've been able to do a complete burnout. what's the problem?

need4speed 07-21-2009 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hey32g (Post 120969)
I was reading an article today (see below), and they mentioned that in the A7 they were not able to spin the rear tires. They said the engine management system cuts in and reduces the power even though the traction control has been turned off.

Is this true?

If so, is there a flash that fixes it?

In a sense, this 370Z is supposed to be Nissan’s Mustang. That means the Nissan needs to be able to do a huge, smoky burnout. Just one problem – it can’t. We tried. The traction control was off, but apparently “off” is a relative term with the automatic transmission model. Even with the electronic nannies turned off, the computer controlling the motor will still cut the power off at the first hint of wheel spin. It’s a result that left a colleague and I sitting in an empty industrial park with a cabin filled of disbelief rather than smoke. In fact, in several conditions, we found the traction control overbearing, stepping in when we’d have rather it didn’t.
Quick Spin: 2009 Nissan 370Z Touring automatic [Review]

Propaganda writing. Since american car companies are doing poorly
And the Z is soooooo goood. They have to find some minor inferiority.
Something made up but not too big to cause controversy.
That way readers who don't know these cars very well just might
Opt for the american model over the Z.
Its like in car and driver when genesis coupe beat camaro v6 in every category but
Camaro still won based on camaro looking nicer which is pure opinion. How does a car win on a opinion of how it looks. Meanwhile motor trend felt the same way bout the camaro
But felt since the genesis coupe was the superior driver. It won.
Lil thingz said like ugly interior cheap. Can't burn out. Or doesn't feel fast when the numbers
Point fast is better judged by test drive. I know when I drove the Z it would chirp from a red light with electronics on. My 08 3.5 altima spins pretty hard with 57 less hp n 4lbs less torque n the tcs on. Lol n I have the sport sedan. So imagine the Z!

kannibul 07-21-2009 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hey32g (Post 120969)
I was reading an article today (see below), and they mentioned that in the A7 they were not able to spin the rear tires. They said the engine management system cuts in and reduces the power even though the traction control has been turned off.

Is this true?

If so, is there a flash that fixes it?

In a sense, this 370Z is supposed to be Nissan’s Mustang. That means the Nissan needs to be able to do a huge, smoky burnout. Just one problem – it can’t. We tried. The traction control was off, but apparently “off” is a relative term with the automatic transmission model. Even with the electronic nannies turned off, the computer controlling the motor will still cut the power off at the first hint of wheel spin. It’s a result that left a colleague and I sitting in an empty industrial park with a cabin filled of disbelief rather than smoke. In fact, in several conditions, we found the traction control overbearing, stepping in when we’d have rather it didn’t.
Quick Spin: 2009 Nissan 370Z Touring automatic [Review]

LOL -turn off TMS.

It'll roast them in 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and I've busted it lose in 4th...with the 7AT.

marcussoori 07-22-2009 10:26 AM

:iagree:

BigD 07-22-2009 10:58 AM

I've also smoked mine up with the VDC off

wstar 07-22-2009 11:15 AM

^ What they said. I cleaned off my tires on the 7AT just fine at the drag strip, and that was on their super-sticky surface and bypassing the water box.

fly yellow 07-22-2009 12:12 PM

I disagree completely that this is supposed to be Nissan's Mustang. Nissan didn't take a major step backwards in technology with a solid rear axle. They aren't simply relying on good old fashioned displacement to generate power. The Z wasn't built just to perform in a straight line.

platyperz 07-22-2009 12:37 PM

I just read that review and it sounded like a total hack job.

bluzman 07-22-2009 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by need4speed (Post 121123)
Propaganda writing. Since american car companies are doing poorly
And the Z is soooooo goood. They have to find some minor inferiority.
Something made up but not too big to cause controversy.
That way readers who don't know these cars very well just might
Opt for the american model over the Z.
Its like in car and driver when genesis coupe beat camaro v6 in every category but
Camaro still won based on camaro looking nicer which is pure opinion. How does a car win on a opinion of how it looks. Meanwhile motor trend felt the same way bout the camaro
But felt since the genesis coupe was the superior driver. It won.
Lil thingz said like ugly interior cheap. Can't burn out. Or doesn't feel fast when the numbers
Point fast is better judged by test drive. I know when I drove the Z it would chirp from a red light with electronics on. My 08 3.5 altima spins pretty hard with 57 less hp n 4lbs less torque n the tcs on. Lol n I have the sport sedan. So imagine the Z!

Yup, it's a conspiracy:roflpuke2: J/K

hey32g 07-22-2009 07:50 PM

Thanks guys. Makes me feel a lot better.

nicknick 07-22-2009 08:41 PM

Good times do not come from smoking the tyres. All this does is ruin your tyres and put undue stress on your components. Why would someone want to do this to their car?

FricFrac 07-23-2009 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicknick (Post 122007)
Good times do not come from smoking the tyres. All this does is ruin your tyres and put undue stress on your components. Why would someone want to do this to their car?

Uhh are there no teen agers in Australia? Every time I go out with my friends under 30 all they want to do is get the rear end loose and light 'em up. More money than brains I say ;)

Florida_GATOR 07-23-2009 12:22 AM

I just do it because i love the smell of burnt rubber...and its just good ol' fun :tup:

XwChriswX 07-23-2009 01:37 AM

I think everyone should be able to at least once, just to say they have, or to impress chicks lol Just make sure when your attempting the latter, it's not your first time and you F*** it up lol. All you'll get then is :bowrofl:

Trips 07-23-2009 03:28 AM

I like it when you smoke the tires enough to get in the car and fill the street from one side to another. The smell is intoxicating like when your at the winternationals in pomona, but it comes with a expensive price tag you don't need to be a teenager to enjoy an occasional burnout. WARNING DO NOT SMOKE THE TIRES IF THERE'S A COP BEHIND YOU!
:tup:

Evolved 07-23-2009 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shabarivas (Post 121002)
Brake boost it and it will spin the tires...that or these idiots didnt know how to turn it off...

I think you mean brake stand.

earwicker7 07-23-2009 02:51 PM

What is this, high school? The only people I know who want to "burn out" are kids who are trying to impress some girl with their dad's car. Losing traction is a negative, not a positive. If you want to burn out, go buy an old Crown Victoria and put a blower on it. You'll look really cool as you crash it into a tree.

wstar 07-23-2009 03:13 PM

Losing traction has its advantages at times, especially in tight cornering when you want to drift more than steer to make the tight radius (think U-turn without 3 lanes of space to do it in, for example). It's also a valid technique at the drag strip. If you're running slicks, you roll through the waterbox and do a full burnout to warm them up. If you're running street tires, you skip the water box and do a mini-burnout (anything more is just wasting rubber) to clean the surface of the tires off.

I'm not a fan of high-school kids doing burnouts and donuts in the street either, but it's not right to say that loss of traction has no place in serious driving.

earwicker7 07-23-2009 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wstar (Post 122936)
Losing traction has its advantages at times, especially in tight cornering when you want to drift more than steer to make the tight radius (think U-turn without 3 lanes of space to do it in, for example). It's also a valid technique at the drag strip. If you're running slicks, you roll through the waterbox and do a full burnout to warm them up. If you're running street tires, you skip the water box and do a mini-burnout (anything more is just wasting rubber) to clean the surface of the tires off.

I'm not a fan of high-school kids doing burnouts and donuts in the street either, but it's not right to say that loss of traction has no place in serious driving.

I'm just referring to what I think of as the typical burnout... flooring the car from a dead stop. My experience in cars I've owned has been that the better cars (911 and 370Z) barely lose any traction at all even when floored. My 70s Z-28 (and numerous front-heavy land shark grandma mobiles I've driven), on the other hand, would burn out at the drop of a hat... the problem is, they didn't have any forward momentum while doing so.

hey32g 07-23-2009 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicknick (Post 122007)
Good times do not come from smoking the tyres. All this does is ruin your tyres and put undue stress on your components. Why would someone want to do this to their car?

Mom, is that you? Why are you on this site? Geez, leave me alone!!

Just kidding with you.

For me, it's not the fact that I want to do some idiotic tire smoking, it's that I hate cars that intervene in my driving. The first thing I do when I get in my 335 is turn off the traction control. I want to control how much wheelspin I get either from a standing start or coming out of slow corner.

If it doesn't get much wheelspin due to it being a great chassis and a great setup then that's great (my old 968 was a perfect example), I just don't want engine power reduced because my cars "nanny" thinks that I need some type of help to control a car.

I absolutely hate traction control. I grew up driving muscle cars and learned how to control a car without help from a computer.

And furthermore if someone is paying for their own car and their own tires and if they want to go melt them down by doing some tire smoking burnout then I say go for it if you don't have the potential to hurt someone. It's a free country do what you want. Or at least it used to be a free country.

Smoke'em if you got'em boys! Before Obama makes it illegal.

TONY_Z34 12-28-2015 03:02 PM

Whats the vdc and how do you take it off? Thanks lol

SouthArk370Z 12-28-2015 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony_z34 (Post 3377284)
whats the vdc and how do you take it off? Thanks lol

rtfm

FPenvy 12-28-2015 03:18 PM

this may be a record. 6 1/2 year thread revival lol

ZeroZ34 12-28-2015 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TONY_Z34 (Post 3377284)
Whats the vdc and how do you take it off? Thanks lol

Vehicle Dynamic System and its a button to the left of the steering wheel and yea lmao old *** thread to bump....smh....

birdman71 12-28-2015 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TONY_Z34 (Post 3377284)
Whats the vdc and how do you take it off? Thanks lol

http://i67.tinypic.com/2yvjq5y.jpg

Z eliminator 12-28-2015 09:26 PM

Burn out
 
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no problems with a 7 AT

Light them up all motor + bolt ons

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enkei2k 12-28-2015 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 3377285)
rtfm

judging by his join date + age, I doubt that is a possibility... :stirthepot: :stirthepot:

sx moneypit 12-29-2015 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enkei2k (Post 3377527)
judging by his join date + age, I doubt that is a possibility... :stirthepot: :stirthepot:

:icon17:

ramoszx12r 12-29-2015 08:03 AM

I have a 6M but I believe the 7A will smoke the tires, if you know what you are doing.

Felix 808 12-29-2015 12:16 PM

http://www.aesica.net/random/thread-necromancy.png

And now that we are here, I think this will answer this age old question

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N/370Z 02-12-2017 07:31 AM

Hey guys, reviving the thread again, just yesterday i tried doing a burnout in my a7

Vdc was off and it was even a little wet out, couldn't get the tires to spin at all at a stand still, i was actually able to get the tires to spin more with the vdc on, any suggestions? Im getting new tires in a week and wanna roast the tires before i get my new ones on.
Also i tired doing all this is "d", did i do it wrong and should have used the "1"? Sorry everyone im a noob to this car

jchammond 02-12-2017 07:37 AM

No problems drawing 2 solid black lines here either...

JARblue 02-12-2017 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N/370Z (Post 3614721)
Vdc was off and it was even a little wet out, couldn't get the tires to spin at all at a stand still, i was actually able to get the tires to spin more with the vdc on, any suggestions?

You're doing something wrong. How on earth did you get the tires to spin more with VDC ON?!?

Pretty sure there are still some nannies on that you have to overcome even with VDC off. ABLS for example applies the rear brakes when the car detects slip - you cannot turn this off without pulling the STOP LAMP fuse or installing an inline switch for the yaw sensor.

N/370Z 02-12-2017 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jchammond (Post 3614724)
No problems drawing 2 solid black lines here either...

Ive read and watched videos and honestly have no clue what im doing wrong, ive even tried brake boosting

I tried racing my buddy a few days ago with vdc off and when i took off the tires did spin a little but the vdc/"inner tc" still kicked in and stopped me from spinning

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