Remote start
 

Anybody have one of these installed yet, seems easy enough with the push button and auto.

LOL my friend if only you knew. You have so much going on that I think that it will be a while before it is even possible to do. You see your transponder is what tells the engine and the system it is okay to start. This controls everything so without that the car will not start. So in older cars were the chip was inside the key you needed a tanspnder that held the key inside a box under the dash and tricked the car into thinking it was oka to start. The problem with your transponder is if that is in the car weather it be inside that bax or in our pocket. Not only can you start the car but drive away with it as well and unlock the doors to. So If you did a remote start and you hit the start button on your keyless remote. Someone could literaly walk up hit the button to unlock thhe car get in and drive off. I just think it will be a while before anyone dose one in this car. PLay it safe and wait.

The thing about the remote starts, is when you hit the brake, then the transponder ghosting unit shuts off and your key will have to be present to take over and keep the engine running.

so whoever gets into your car will not go far.

That original ranspnder is inside the car and the car will see it even after it is disengaged and the car will sill use that trans to operate. I eman the car can read the transponder inide a leather cas inside a pocket or in a backpack, I am sure it can read it inside a peice of plastic.

Just found this
"i dont have remote start on my z but i do have it one my 03 dodge ram. only thing it messed with was the factory keyless the keyless feature is now tied in with the remote start, if i dont remote start it i have to unlock it with the oem remote, if i do remote start it i have to use the keyless on the remote start keyfob. my sister has it on her 05 scion tc she had problems with it because of the immobilizer so she doesnt use it to much anymore. its a nice thing to be able to get into a warm or cool car yes, but i wouldnt put one on my z, no"
That to me is enough to not want to install one

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What about the factory JDM remote start system for the 370Z that is being sold on:

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Will this work with our US 370Zs?

i got the viper system in my G and they said they can add the remote start whenever i want.

hope it wont be messed up.

Bump: any updates?

There was already a thread about this.

i tried getting one installed they had mycar for 5hrs then they told me it cant be done yet cuz there arent any manuels for install

Why remote start? Can anyone give me a logical answer as to why people are so eager to start the car from far away? What purpose does it serve?

See the reply I got below...not very promising. Anyone interested in being the first guinea pig?

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Thank you so much for your e-mail. My name is Tsuyoshi from Japanparts.com. About 415-014-020-1, it is for A/T, so this is okay for the transmission type. However, all of our parts are basically for JDM, so I can not guarantee that this will fit to USDM.

Also, the installation directions in English are not available and not able to check the signals, so I can not tell that this sound is same as the US signals.

I am sorry for the inconvenience.

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Remote start would allow your car to warm up (or cool down) before going to it. They are most useful on diesel engines on cold days so the glow plugs have time to warm and the vehicle can be ready for real driving right off the bat. This can also be good to guarantee that oil and tranny fluid is warmed and moving (in the top of the motor) before getting on the throttle to limit pinging and such.

Another huge benefit I can see for the Z car is on icy days to get the car warmed up and the windows defrosting before opening the doors. I'm sure that at least once an issue has come from the self venting windows opperating with ice on them.

If a DEI 555 style keyfob replicator is released that will link the transponder signal into the port on the lower-left side of the dash then I don't forsee any issues. I wouldn't be happy with the "hide-a-key" method that used to be prevalent with Fords and Toyotas.

Also thanks to the fact that the car knows exactly which gear you're in you could use diodes to make sure that the E-Brake was on and the car is in Neutral before attempting to start. Partner that with a pre-ignition relay to bypass the clutch pinswitch and you're golden. On my 240 I actually just disassembled the lower clutch switch and made a jumper to bypass the thing all-together. I did keep the upper switch though, so the cruise control would still drop out when depressing the pedal.

I was just doing some looking around, looks like there's an interface module out already. It interfaces with the OBDII port, I remember starting to see some like this back in the day when I was still installing.

Programmable Platform#07:CAN Bus High Speed Interface
XpressKit.com - Compatibility Chart

Looks like I'll be installing one of these in the next couple months, should be a fun refresher ;) Might go with the new Clifford Matrix 50.7X or Viper 5901, can't remember which I have access too.

Just found this wonderful tidbit as well... DEI_2009_Nissan_370Z.pdf

They has to be more info on 350z g37 remote start.I know someone has a answer.SOMEONE has a 350z or 3g5/g37 with remot start/.

remote starter $1000!!!!!????? - MyG37

1101T - Universal Proximity Key Bypass

Here's what they say. Hope this helps:

Patrick, The basic remote starter that we use in a product of Directed electronics, also we use a Can-Bus module that learns the rolling code of the intelligent key and integrates with the electronics of the G37, finally we make a modification so the remote starter works with the existing factory remote. The system is engaged by hitting the lock button twice, once you get in the car with the intelligent key you step on the brake and the vehicle acknowledges that the key is now in the car and it switches over and u drive away.

I hope this answers your questions.

Brian Cullinan
Parts and Service Director
Fields Infiniti
(847)998-5200
F847)835-0843




some info i found

Here is a question about our key fobs. I can start my car and walk away, the car stays running. Is there a time or distance limit on this? Obviously if the car was shut off somewhere it would require the key to restart, but honestly for me that is to late.

Remote start alarms (or stand-alones) have timers that are programmable to dictate how long they will run. Most people will set them to 10-15mins.

Pressing the foot brake or any other failsafe you wire in would kill the car without inserting your key (or getting in the car with your fob in this case.) I'd recommend wiring in a parking brake requirement and a clutch shutdown on 6MTs.

No reputable shop should install a remote start on a customer's car, unless things have changed with the fact that you can now accurately monitor which gear the car is or isn't in. I've seen installs in the past using a grounding system of springs where when they make contact with the shifter it disables the remote start. I did a side job for someone many years ago on a manual transmission and all was well for about a year. The kid dropped his car off at a dealer for a recall on his dash (it was a ford where the dash was peeling up from its frame) and he attempted to start the car. It jumped into the side of the building as the tech had left it in gear, good times.

I love the fact that your guy at Infiniti stated that the remote start works with the factory keyfob, I'd be interested to see how that works. I'm assuming the factory alarm module has some unused outputs. Take for instance that most Infinitis and higher end Nissans have been able to roll down their windows by holding the "Unlock" button on their fobs for a while.

No once the car gets the signal it needs to turn on it will not shut off until the user turns the car off.

This I can not reiterate enough. If you have the fob in your car you can unlock your car even when it is on. I really do not think you can install a remote start on the z or any car that has key less entry and key less start for that matter.

yes you can... remote start can be installed on a Z


well, on the G at least..... should be the samething anyways

You don't have to hide a fob in the car, the CAN Interface Module communicates with the car directly, not using a prox fob or transponder. Follow the first link from my previous post, click on "Manual Downloads" then the "PKN3" sub menu and read the Maxima Intelli-key Manual. Looks like it takes the whole being able to unlock the car thing out of the mix.

Interesting bet it is a PITA though but able to be done. In the words of Vin Diesel "I retract my previous statement"

I'm awaiting a quote for the Clifford Matrix with the CAN Module, hopefully I'll hear back by tomorrow. Once I'm ready to do this I'll create an extensive DIY. I've never really documented my work, only before and after pictures, so it'll be fun.

Indeed PM sent

Summer + Leather seat.

or winter + any seat

Using auxiliary relays on the remote start system you can even trigger a defroster or seat warmer. Many years ago I had my alarm set up where I could start the car, vent the windows and sunroof (independently), and had a relay bypass the accessory power input to the stereo so it wouldn't blast if I had left it up to high. Although I could switch it back on with just the push of a button. The alarm was also set up to close my windows and sunroof upon arming, unless I hit a bypass button beforehand. It's just a fun luxury that is actually useful at times, especially in the Texas heat.

I don't know about the Z, but in Toyota smart keys, there is an option to turn off the smart key feature, where you will have to use your clicker to unlock and lock the door instead of pressing the button on your door handle...I"m sure there's one for the Z too...so I guess if you want to shut off that feature of your car, then you can definitely install remote start for your car...

Has anyone actually accomplished a successful install on the manual transmission yet?? What brand?? My dealer says he can't do it to the manual tranny....

no dealer will realistically install a remote start on a manual transmission. i've had someone remote start their car into a wall when a shop worked on his car. they parked his car in 1st and that didn't end up well when he hit the button.

on the Z at least, there are sensors telling which gear you're in so that can be used with a neutral safety switch, but i still doubt a dealer or shop will do it for you.

I understand the implications of trying to start a car in gear with a remote starter, but from what I can understand from the wiring schematics, there are enough "safety's" to avoid this. IE: neutral position sensor, handbrake sensor....
From the websites I have seen, it is not impossible, merely somewhat convoluted in the implementation. Just hoping someone would have had this done already. In Canada, remote starts are necessary evils for cars driven year round.
Prostart seems to indicate that it IS possible with the existing wiring in the 2009 and 2010 models. This would be the same configuration as the manual tranny G37 too.

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i believe it's possible, and i plan on doing it before it gets hot this summer. i'm planning on 2 full days of work just in case. integrating the CAN bus and making the locks work correctly will be tricky.

Vipor, did you ever do it?

A guy up in Northern Alaska did it on his manual base. I helped him figure out the neutral sensor wire and he had already figured out the clutch bypass and e-brake.

An extra fob (without battery) needs to be wired into the system so it can be temporarily powered up to authorize the start.

Need to find the thread ...

Here it is.
http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...ng-clutch.html

Not a DIY but should help you on your way.

Most of the signals you need to interface to aren't on CAN bus.

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I had mine done a couple of months ago. Just have to remember to leave it in neutral. Ive had no problems with it yet .

I would add the neutral detection logic, it isn't that difficult for the installer. You only have to forget once.