Originally Posted by asdfsammich (Post 2333867)

I hope you're right. It need to be GTR-like not by competing with the GTR segment (super cars) but GTR-like because they figure out how to make it perform best in it's own segment (sports car/coupes) while still being less costly.



Evolving from these ideas and our current looks would be a huge win.


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Exactly. I hope the render and the rumors are way off.



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Originally Posted by BigT (Post 2335201)

My boss bought a fully loaded, auto 350z back in 2003 for 29k out the door. I fully loaded 370z in 2009 was 40k. The target market changed quite a bit and affected sales. Most 370Z owners are older guys with money. But, its the young guys that are buying car's by the butt load. Unfortunately, not many young guys can afford in the 30 to 40k price range and the ones that can are buying Evo's and STI's.

Originally Posted by ZBro16 (Post 2191728)

I don't see them reducing displacement, but I do see a revised valvetrain, which is the cause of many of the woes of the current engine (oil temps, high end coarseness).

Originally Posted by BigT (Post 2335201)

My boss bought a fully loaded, auto 350z back in 2003 for 29k out the door. I fully loaded 370z in 2009 was 40k. The target market changed quite a bit and affected sales. Most 370Z owners are older guys with money. But, its the young guys that are buying car's by the butt load. Unfortunately, not many young guys can afford in the 30 to 40k price range and the ones that can are buying Evo's and STI's.

Originally Posted by b15 (Post 2335493)

Do people that keep bringing up base prices of 350z vs 370z have an understanding of the global economy and what has happened to the yen over the years? It seems the vast majority of people think Nissan just throws an arbitrary price on the Z and calls it a day. Keep in mind this car is not built in the US and how that impacts pricing compared to a Mustang...

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2335497)

You're asking people to think man. Shame on you!!:shakes head:

LOL, jk, but nissan still has some control and in a couple of areas can do a better job for the price. Look at what features make it over in luxury company brands that start in the mid $30's. Nissan can still invest another $1,000-1,500 in the cars and still turn a good profit

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2334115)

Yeah, the Z doesn't need to copy Mustang, Corvette or any American cars like so many suggest. We don't need to copy, drive or feel like them behind the wheel. We just need to look in our own Z history and see what worked in the best Z's and combine it.

If people think the Z should beat stangs etc... I think people should plan on buying stangs etc in their future.:tup:
Just remember this is a Z forum when you go on the other side... :tiphat:


I think that render is a massive fake. I think C&D's info is unimpressive, false "gahbidge".

Originally Posted by The BlueMax (Post 2335302)

The VQ 3.7 has no displacement increase, they got the .2liter increase through a longer stroke. Picked up some top end horsepower along with the coarseness, but no troque increase which is a common pickup in V8s

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2332914)

This is the problem in a nutshell. It needs to be better to compete at its current price point, but the improvements cost money. It's a fine line between improving the car and killing sales with the price. I'd hate for the Z to get killed off again because the market won't support a $45-50k Z. It'll never have Mustang/Camaro sales. It's much more of a niche product than the domestic pony cars.

Originally Posted by Nismodean (Post 2333009)

The price isn't the problem, the people wanted something to look good and sound good but not be really that good. Quality, people, costs money. Which is why the 370Z costs more than the 350Z. Bigger engine, better interior, more hp/tq, bigger brakes, better technology! You won't get that sh¡t for the same price from the last model. Try to be more realistic please! I mean come on... 35K for the best dollar/performance sports car is NOT bad. I'm about to go out and drive my 370Z and love it, you guys go ahead and stare in misery at yours.....

Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk (Post 2333246)

Remember that the price they sell it for directly results in the value of the yen. The yen was getting stronger against the dollar for the past few years. It wasn't until recently that it started dropping again. Building a car for X amount of yen, then selling it for X amount of dollars, they need to have a profit margin. Sure there is a few thousand in every vehicle, but it is not out of line with the profit margin of a car that is similarly equipped. Now if they are able to build the Z here in the states, they can reduce the cost for manufacture, but they still need to sell enough to justify that investment. Look at what Subaru and Mitsubishi gives for their sports cars. A turbo 4 banger, AWD and not much else, but it costs the same. Nissan isn't alone in this price conspiracy.

Originally Posted by /Angelo350Z/ (Post 2335511)

I would pay between $50K to $60K for a 400+ hp Z that weighs close to 3100 lbs and can compete with a 911 Carrera S. I wouldn't mind paying more for a little more exclusivity and performance.