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Tim 07-16-2009 02:38 AM

Beef (Nismo Vs. Non-Nismo)
 
So obviously all around the forums there are those that like the Nismo and those who don't, just a small simple poll to see the differences in which one you prefer

Please respect what other users think :icon17:

tru_Asiatik 07-16-2009 02:52 AM

if the nismo was available the same time i would have concidered it but im very happy with my base sport since i rather add my own mods than getting it out of the box

MightyBobo 07-16-2009 05:33 AM

I find the Nismo looks a bit outlandish, but on the other hand, the picture of the red one Educ8r posted looked pretty nice.

In the end, I just cant justify the price increase for minimal changes.

Island_370 07-16-2009 06:13 AM

to me...spoilers>>>>>wings. Same reason I would not buy an STI or Evo

CBRich 07-16-2009 07:22 AM

Wow. Pretty one-sided there. Is this simply because people don't have a NISMO or because you really think it's not a good deal. I personally think you can do more with less money than what they offer.

juan05 07-16-2009 07:36 AM

im a nismo fan but the nismo is just a body kit and an exhaust. interior is the same it just says nismo. oh and the sunspension. touring is more stuff and nicer and nav is nice

nogoodname 07-16-2009 07:58 AM

Nismo model Z is mainly for the name.

Cjanik 07-16-2009 08:01 AM

The only things I like about the NISMO is the body kit (minus the wing) and the rims.

But the price for the lack of features does not attract me.

MightyBobo 07-16-2009 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by CBRich (Post 115638)
Wow. Pretty one-sided there. Is this simply because people don't have a NISMO or because you really think it's not a good deal. I personally think you can do more with less money than what they offer.

Im fairly sure the majority just dont find it to be a good deal at all.

theDreamer 07-16-2009 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 115669)
Im fairly sure the majority just dont find it to be a good deal at all.

:iagree:
The sport package on the base & touring is probably the best deal you can get with the Z, everything else is what you want or do not want. The Nismo really cannot beat out a solid base+sport, and then throw on a few thousand in upgrades. Now I can understand those who just want it tuned from factory and everything, I am a bit like that but when it comes down to price v. gain .

Mike 07-16-2009 09:08 AM

to me, the nismo looks too aftermarket.

Minicobra1 07-16-2009 10:06 AM

Nissan should have focused more on the engine performance and less on looks. (I know, I know, a lot of the stuff on there is functional, and probably a good platform for adding mods)
I would have paid $45K-$47Kfor it, in it's current configuration, if it was putting out 425+hp. (supercharged, or small twin turbos would have been nice) maybe next year. :tup:

Pushing_Tin 07-16-2009 12:02 PM

While I do like some aspects, I think it's too over priced and looks too boy racer for me personally. To each their own.

m4a1mustang 07-16-2009 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minicobra1 (Post 115763)
Nissan should have focused more on the engine performance and less on looks. (I know, I know, a lot of the stuff on there is functional, and probably a good platform for adding mods)
I would have paid $45K-$47Kfor it, in it's current configuration, if it was putting out 425+hp. (supercharged, or small twin turbos would have been nice) maybe next year. :tup:

+1. The power output of this one is almost insulting... lol.

The Nismo Z should be to the regular Z what the GT500 is to the Mustang GT.

K20A2_S 07-16-2009 12:27 PM

the real question is if the NISMO is worth buying over the non-nismos............b/c the NISMO is a better car obviously.......

If I could have either one free, I'll take the NISMO please. If I'm fronting the bill.............base with SP.

shabarivas 07-16-2009 12:40 PM

Its not a better car by that much - atleast from what we know so far ... Throw some stillen bolt ons and you are at the nismo power level... the chassis is not seam welded anymore... the wheels are nice but if you are like me you are going to change them anyway... the suspension upgrades are not that much - you could do the same with about 2-3k. So all in all.. the only people really buying the nismo will be getting it for the body kit... I love the nismo rear and front bumpers... all else i would keep to my base...

nightfire 07-16-2009 02:55 PM

I have to admit I do like the look of the nismo but I haven't seen one in real life so it's hard to say how much I truly like it. My one big complaint with it though is that there is no option for nav or leather seats. Overall I like the touring sport the best.

CrownR426 07-16-2009 02:58 PM

Nismo's getting killed!

edeeZee 07-16-2009 03:07 PM

You see, it's not like when Honda had their Civic Si's that had twin cam B16's that pushed 160 hp vs. the regular 1.6 125 hp motors. That 35 hp jump is a big deal for little lightweight cars as such, but w/ a 370, 18 hp isn't a world of difference. It's an exhaust and intake away, about $2,000 worth of mods vs. $9,000 price jump.

Nismo 370 is ricey I think, sorry if my opinion is offensive. S-tune is better.

INSURANCE101 07-16-2009 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 115612)
I find the Nismo looks a bit outlandish, but on the other hand, the picture of the red one Educ8r posted looked pretty nice.

In the end, I just cant justify the price increase for minimal changes.

wheres the pic of the red one?

av370 07-16-2009 03:41 PM

I had a chance to get a 08 350 nismo cheaper then my 09 370 but I didnt like the bent lip on the front air dam or the ricer screen on the rear, just saw the 09 and still has the curved or bent front lip.

shabarivas 07-16-2009 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by av370 (Post 116043)
I had a chance to get a 08 350 nismo cheaper then my 09 370 but I didnt like the bent lip on the front air dam or the ricer screen on the rear, just saw the 09 and still has the curved or bent front lip.

Sorry - really bugs me - its Than when you are comparing numbers and then when you are talking about time...

BanningZ 07-16-2009 06:56 PM

Not going to track the car. Nismo is not necassary, and I don't like the exterior "improvements"

MightyBobo 07-16-2009 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by INSURANCE101 (Post 116027)
wheres the pic of the red one?

http://img.skitch.com/20090715-3xwsq...46rtf781gr.jpg

av370 07-16-2009 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shabarivas (Post 116199)
Sorry - really bugs me - its Than when you are comparing numbers and then when you are talking about time...

pubic skooln

Smallywood 07-16-2009 08:15 PM

Touring with sport package and Nismo S-Tune upgrades, hands down...

blackbird 07-16-2009 08:27 PM

Didn't like NISMO body kit. I got Base, then NISMO suspension upgrades and sports brakes and NISMO Spoiler. I'm getting the feeling I'm alone in this. My old 300ZX TT had the Stillen Spoiler and my older 83 280ZXT had the gigantic Whale tail spoiler. Not boy racer. More like old guy who is refusing to grow up.

nicknick 07-16-2009 08:38 PM

i checked the standard version. for the extra money your paying for the nismo you are getting stupid looking bodykit, 18 extra measly hp that you can not notice, and less luxury .

antennahead 07-16-2009 10:25 PM

Looks are very subjective. I like the front end, I'm neither a fan or a hater of the rear end. I don't care for the rear spoiler, like the sport package spoiler much better. I really like the wheels .......... to each his own. All in all, I think it's a nice looking package however. As many have said, you can do a lot more for the money. Sans the red stitching and NISMO nomenclature on the seats, the interior is the same. For a few thousand more than the price of the base with sport package, you can add some nice sways and struts/springs, a good HFC and exhaust, and come out cheaper than the NISMO. A lot of people though, probably want a "turnkey" performance upgrade without customizing the aftermarket performance parts. It's a nice car, I personally will enjoy my base with sport more by tweaking the suspension and adding a HFC/exhaust, then spend the additional money on a nice sound system.

John

AlexN 07-25-2009 12:51 PM

the 350 nismo had the seam welds which you could not do on your own. (well, not easily at least)
the 370 nismo is all "bolt-ons" so I would stick with a base + sport package and customize my bolt-ons to my taste.
to the nismo's favor I would say that the rear bumper is much better than the stock one and the concave wheels are just sick.

dad 07-25-2009 01:00 PM

Nismo Z= waste of money!

juan05 07-25-2009 01:08 PM

well i like both.. they are both 370z...=)

355890 07-25-2009 01:16 PM

Top shelf - should reflect a minimum of 400 HP, that not being the case, then consider it all as just window dressing.

I'll do my own...

RCZ 07-25-2009 01:56 PM

Bahahaha 106 to 10. Fial.

MightyBobo 07-25-2009 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 125239)
Bahahaha 106 to 10. Fial.

We're jealous and unsecure.

hey32g 07-25-2009 02:07 PM

If the Nismo came with the A7, I would have voted Nismo.

SnakeBitten 07-25-2009 02:16 PM

I wish they saved the money on the body kit and put it towards more hp. Nismo Z should have had DI and about "370"hp and reclining lighter racing seats as it is a streetcar too imho. 40hp more to celebrate the 40th anniversary. Price to performance ratio is what is sinking it as was already mentioned.

That being said it looks best in black and red but Id rather a base with sport package for the nifty synchro rev.

Lug 07-25-2009 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnakeBitten (Post 125290)
I wish they saved the money on the body kit and put it towards more hp. Nismo Z should have had DI and about "370"hp and reclining lighter racing seats as it is a streetcar too imho. 40hp more to celebrate the 40th anniversary. Price to performance ratio is what is sinking it as was already mentioned.

That being said it looks best in black and red but Id rather a base with sport package for the nifty synchro rev.

You know the NISMO has the syncro rev too?

Lug 07-25-2009 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 125239)
Bahahaha 106 to 10. Fial.

Actually, that might end up being the ratio of NISMO's to standard 370Z's so Nissan might have nailed it perfectly. :D

FricFrac 07-25-2009 03:15 PM

Regardless of if you think the NISMO is enough performance upgrade it IS a performance upgrade - the body package is functional - there is a boost in performance, the handling is improved, etc. Value for money - not really but you're paying for the name plain and simple... no different than TDR, AMG, etc... manufactures performance parts are almost always more than aftermarket....


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