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Baer383 01-05-2013 10:14 PM

I work in a body shop,I wish people who have Geico In. Could be standing there when the adjuster from Geico is talking/and making decision about their cars.:shakes head:

GrandZ45 01-06-2013 09:46 AM

Cheap Insurance may be no insurance
 
In the early 80's I bought the cheapest insurance I could find as I had no money and we have the highest insurance rates in the nation. Champion Insurance. Turns out the company was bankrupt and the insurance commissioner was covering that up. The insurance commissioner went to prison (what would the federal prison suppliers do without Louisiana politicians?) and many millions of claims were left unpaid. Guess who was personally liable for those claims? I was fortunate and had no accidents while I was covered by them but stopped shopping for low dollar insurance.

Insurance is just a contract and a contract is just a promise. Only as sound as the organization behind it. Been with Allstate over 30 years now and insurance on the Z was not disproportionately high compared to my Crown Vic that I was driving before--but still higher than if I lived some place where tort lawyers don't own the courthouse. I have had a couple of accidents and Allstate kept me out of the courthouse which is what I pay them for.

Huck 01-06-2013 10:08 AM

My wife and I use travelers now, every one else seemed pretty expensive compared to what we are paying now. We have a 2009 Z and a 2007 Audi A4 2.0T, we have full coverage on both of them plus $10,000 custom parts protection on the Z, and we pay about $650 every six months. Other companies were anywhere from $750 to over $1000 for 6 months. Actually one thing that was cool was that when I called them to add the custom parts coverage it didn't raise my rate at all. My wife just totaled her Civic a few months ago and it didn't affect our rates either, so I've been pretty happy with them so far.

I will say this about Allstate, when I was younger I had them covering my '91 ford explorer. There was a local office that i would go to and pay my bill every month, so I got to now the people there, and they also knew my parents since they used them as well. Someone broke into my truck one night and stole my system, worth MAYBE $500-$600. When I called the local Allstate they agreed to replace it for me, and they found out that the speakers and amp I had were discontinued. They ended up getting me top of the line Rockford Fosgate equipment worth about $2000. It was so loud that I had to go back to them a few months later to have my rear windshield replaced after I cracked it with the bass :rock:

Forgot to mention I'm 30, the wife is 29, we both have clean records for at least 10 years.

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w0rM 01-06-2013 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Compdoc777 (Post 2095295)
Check out Allstate as well. I have very low rates with them and never any problems.

StateFarm is a joke. They were bought by an Indian company after the almost went bankrupt over Katrina most of the people they insured they denied claims. If they did pay they dumped the customer or raised the rates so high no one could afford. Then they were bought out by an Indian company.
They fired all the American workers and brought in foreign workers made them teach the people replacing them there job or be fired with no package for 3 months. The foreign workers are from India and work at low wages and can be replaced easily. All workers at StateFarm are Indian. The are ripe for illegal hiring practices. Stay way clear of StateFarm they will deny claims and or just refuse to pay you when incidents happen like Katrina, Ike, Sandy.

I know first hand many people that worked at StateFarm this is the information along with news reports that I have been informed about and my step mother works for another insurance company and she hears all the stories from other people that have left StateFarm and moved over to her company.

Check out this link.
551 Complaints and Reviews about State Farm Auto Insurance Looks like an 80% disapproval rating.

If you have StateFarm I would check out a known reputable company and lose them before they deny you or drop you for some made up B.S.

Me I have had the same policy since 1982 with Allstate and never any problems with being dropped. I have had tickets, wrecks, boat and house repairs due to damage. They did not raise my rates or drop me. When Katrina, Ike and they rest you did not hear them denying claims and dropping people for no reason.

I've been with State Farm for 10 years. I've had multiple claims (non of them my fault) and I've never had a single issue. They've always been prompt and fair with me. Not to mention, they're much cheaper than most other companies here. And by the way... I live in south Louisiana.

Oh and since I guess you didn't look, Allstate has a 78% disapproval rating on the site you posted a link to. How much extra are you paying for the 2% extra approval?

SouthArk370Z 01-06-2013 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by w0rM (Post 2096661)
Oh and since I guess you didn't look, Allstate has a 78% disapproval rating on the site you posted a link to. How much extra are you paying for the 2% extra approval?

:rofl2:

Since the pages are headed "Consumer Complaints & Reviews", I'm a bit surprised that the disapproval ratings for both companies aren't closer to 100%. ;)

From what I have heard from friends and acquaintances that use Allstate, it is a good company. It has it's problems, like every other insurer has, but most of what I hear is good. If I ever need to leave State Farm, Allstate is one of the first I will check out.

gsxr750 01-06-2013 01:05 PM

Most insurance companies are easy to deal with on simple small one time claims, the issues come in when there are major losses or injuries envoled.

Or when things are questionable, this is the time when you need to bring in an attorney.

A friend I know had his out board motor stolen off a fishing boat in only 5 minutes while at a fast food joint and the insurance company denied the claim as it sounded fishy to them, but it was a valid claim. My friend didn't bother using an attorney and just wrote it off. But it taken to court they would have to pay up.

You will find this tactic used during muliple fault auto claims and during a lot of home damage claims, to deny them or stone wall the client.

Red__Zed 01-06-2013 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 2096344)
I work in a body shop,I wish people who have Geico In. Could be standing there when the adjuster from Geico is talking/and making decision about their cars.:shakes head:


working with Geico on adjustments was 100% of the motivating factor behind going someplace else for my personal insurance.

They're likely the cheapest option (for my Mustang, I pay just over $75/mo for 300k/300k/100k limits and a $1MM umbrella), but the way they handle repairs is laughable.

Jordo! 01-06-2013 02:19 PM

All corporations are evil and heartless -- entities aimed purely at profit.

Insurance is a complete fucking racket.

Call around, and just get the cheapest and most reputable you can afford.

GrandZ45 01-06-2013 06:54 PM

Insurance as racket
 
I don't agree that all corporations are evil. They are all impersonal and by definition heartless as, irregardless of how they are considered under law, they are not people and exist only to make money. More a matter of being amoral than immoral IMHO.

In any case, tort law is also a racket, and it sometimes takes one to fight one.

That and the simple fact that, being human, every time you get behind the wheel you are taking a certain risk that you will kill or maim other people going about minding their own business. I once went with the cheapest option and got away with it but many people who had an accident during that time are 20 years along still having their wages garnished or otherwise impacted paying damages that they had a paid a bankrupt insurance company to cover. Having an insurance card is not always the same thing as being insured. Ask the billing clerk at any hospital or doctors office.

gsxr750 01-06-2013 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GrandZ45 (Post 2097410)
I don't agree that all corporations are evil. They are all impersonal and by definition heartless as, irregardless of how they are considered under law, they are not people and exist only to make money. More a matter of being amoral than immoral IMHO.

In any case, tort law is also a racket, and it sometimes takes one to fight one.

That and the simple fact that, being human, every time you get behind the wheel you are taking a certain risk that you will kill or maim other people going about minding their own business. I once went with the cheapest option and got away with it but many people who had an accident during that time are 20 years along still having their wages garnished or otherwise impacted paying damages that they had a paid a bankrupt insurance company to cover. Having an insurance card is not always the same thing as being insured. Ask the billing clerk at any hospital or doctors office.

Hell even 99% of charities are corrupt with scams and excessive operational costs. The basic facts of life illustrate that anything to do with money has corruption and graft all over it and would sell anyone or thing out for a $1

Mike 01-06-2013 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 2096943)
working with Geico on adjustments was 100% of the motivating factor behind going someplace else for my personal insurance.

They're likely the cheapest option (for my Mustang, I pay just over $75/mo for 300k/300k/100k limits and a $1MM umbrella), but the way they handle repairs is laughable.

My friend was an adjuster for Geico. He hated it as much as the customers. He is back working for USAA now.

I'm insured with USAA, but I think consumer guru Clark Howard has always talked well of Amica.

DesertZ 01-07-2013 06:14 PM

I have been with state farm for ever. I received new info with my insurance card last week. State farm now spells out that if you go to the track for fast driving, not just racing they will not cover any damage. (A Given).

It also stated that if you have any modifications on your car beyond what your car comes stock with State farm will not cover any of the non-stock parts if damged or stolen.

Also they will use new, used or rebuilt parts and non-OEM parts to fix your car.(I think this may be state by state as I think Cali states they have to use new OEM parts if requested). I bring this up because this is the first time I have seen them come out with a statement like this.

edub370 01-07-2013 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DesertZ (Post 2099032)
I have been with state farm for ever. I received new info with my insurance card last week. State farm now spells out that if you go to the track for fast driving, not just racing they will not cover any damage. (A Given).

It also stated that if you have any modifications on your car beyond what your car comes stock with State farm will not cover any of the non-stock parts if damged or stolen.

Also they will use new, used or rebuilt parts and non-OEM parts to fix your car.(I think this may be state by state as I think Cali states they have to use new OEM parts if requested). I bring this up because this is the first time I have seen them come out with a statement like this.

So U can't put non oem parts on your car, but they can.... Hmmm... Sounds like state farm

Mecinoid 01-08-2013 02:56 AM

I wouldn't use State Farm or Allstate ever again. My wife and me have perfect records and they tried to raise our rate by 30% for no reason. No claims nothing.... We had all the best insurance with them both. Requoted through other agents ... Still same high price. I went to Mercury except for Motorhome which was cheaper with Progressive.
Insurance make their own rules and if you haven't been in a accident in a while they figure your going to wreck soon so they bump you off. Weird. No loyality at all. In total, I have over 15 policies with Mercury and Progressive and only pay $3300 per year in insurance. That includes cars, houses, boats, MH, life and earthquake etc...
Never again will I give one red cent to Allstate or State Farm. You should have seen the hoops that Allstate sent us through before we had enough and took our policies away. Can you imagine tracking your mileage every six months and reporting it on 8-10 vehicles? Nighmare.... Oh and the policies were supposed to have unlimitted mileage clause. They must have thought I was renting my cars out or something. Idiots.

Newest addition -2013 Chevy Volt ... 273ft lbs of torque from 0 rpm. Not too bad folks.... Maybe ELR in my future?

Mecinoid 01-08-2013 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike (Post 2097483)
My friend was an adjuster for Geico. He hated it as much as the customers. He is back working for USAA now.

I'm insured with USAA, but I think consumer guru Clark Howard has always talked well of Amica.

Amica is good ....

Mecinoid 01-08-2013 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by edub370 (Post 2099153)
So i can't put non oem parts on your cart, but they can.... Hmmm... Sounds like state farm

yup just like them.... :ughdance:

kidkotic2001 01-08-2013 04:07 PM

With AllState your in good hands...... Thats who I have and they are real good, I have never had a problem. My old 350z was keyed and I placed a claim and had no issues. My home and two other cars are insure through Allstate.

Gauge 01-09-2013 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 2094898)
Super car? :icon14:

State Farm may be more expensive, but I've never had a problem with a claim and they didn't raise my rates after a recent $20K+ wreck. I've had the shingles on my house replaced twice (edit: plus the roof over my back porch) with no claim problems or bump in rate.

Same here. State farm isn't THAT much more expensive. But I have yet to have a claim issue with them. They basically just verify something happened and start dishing out checks. They have treated me well so I've been with State Farm for a long time now.

Currently have my Nismo, 2002 malibu, and a 1995 pathfinder, and renters insurance for like 700-800 ( I don't know exactly) bucks yearly with full coverage.

Lemers 01-09-2013 12:56 PM

So on my laptop I put in www.usaa.com and General Insurance | General Auto Insurance | Car Insurance Quotes loads. What could be causing that? Some spyware?

SS_Firehawk 01-09-2013 03:56 PM

Clear your cookies and cache, see if it clears up. Or you could resolve the query in cmd and type in the ip address of USAA.

Coon-azz 01-09-2013 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by edub370 (Post 2095269)
geico is terrible. the general is cheap for a reason.

progressive is, by far, the most helpful and lowest price company out there when i got my insurance (23, non-homeowner, single)

FYI. Geico has high levels of turn over because they treat there staff like crap. They go as far as limiting the time you can use the restroom. Its what we experts call a "turn and burn" company.

GrandZ45 01-09-2013 06:09 PM

Companies that treat employees badly
 
Will treat customers badly. One of the few things this hard head has learned in 50 plus years is to not do business with people who mistreat their employees or their family.

NuffZed 01-09-2013 07:56 PM

Insurance is a game for a lot of companies. Reputable or otherwise (the General's ain't great) its all about how much they have been paying out lately vs profits. They will happily take your money for years but if they are faced with big payouts to cover disasters that WILL have a direct impact on your claim if it happens at a bad time for your company. Regardless of how good a customer you are or have been, they will try every method they can to get out of your claim. That being said, going with a reputable company and paying a touch more may be worth it in the long run. The trick is, from one year to the next, a company like StateFarm can go from reputable to its current ****hole status.

I fully support those who have stated StateFarm is crap. I WAS a StateFarm customer (cars/home/life/rec-toys) for 25+ years with a great record. When I made a claim in 2012, and not a big one, regarding a home accident (pet vs brand NEW 70'' 3D TV :icon14: )they denied it on a technicality. I pulled all my insurance from them shortly thereafter. Amazing how a 25+ year whole life policy, when pulled, cost them nearly 10 times the value of my claim.

When you shop, don't just shop prices, shop reputation and keep an eye on both over time. Being a long time loyal customer matters little now to many companies but there are some good ones out there. Good Luck

Compdoc777 01-10-2013 07:12 AM

A 2007 investigation by CNN reported that major car insurance companies, including State Farm and Allstate Insurance, are increasingly fighting claims from those injured by their insured members. In some cases, the settlement proposed amounts to just $50 or the threat that any lawsuit would be made so expensive and time-consuming that it would not be worth the victim's time. State Farm and Allstate have denied these allegations.[14] This followed on the heels of criminal investigations by the states of Louisiana and Mississippi, which found that State Farm had wrongly denied claims stemming from Hurricane Katrina.[15] Richard F "Dickie" Scruggs pleaded guilty in March for his role in trying to pay Judge Henry Lackey of Mississippi a $50,000 bribe for a favorable ruling in a dispute involving a $26.5 million settlement after Hurricane Katrina.[16]

FuszNissan 01-10-2013 07:31 AM

We are currently an Allstate Agency , we opened 4 months ago. I can tell you Allstate is the best Insurance Companies out there, even for Supplemental Insurance for your employees (if you own a small business)

If you would like a FREE quote just PM me and I will get one of my branch managers in contact with you.

Gauge 01-10-2013 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by NuffZed (Post 2102586)
When I made a claim in 2012, and not a big one, regarding a home accident (pet vs brand NEW 70'' 3D TV :icon14: )they denied it on a technicality.

You expected them to cover a pet damaging something?

akster 01-10-2013 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Nailzs (Post 2094853)
I've been shopping around looking at different insurance companies to see if they're cheaper than my current company Amica.

Went to State Farm and went through the online quote thing. Not good at $400 over Amica.

Went to The General for a quote. After putting in the car model I got red flagged that my Z was an "unacceptable car". I was given a number to call for more information. I called the number given and talked to a lady CSR.
I told her what happened and told her what car I was wanting a quote for.
She said "we can't insure your car. It's a super car" :icon14:

A super car? Left almost speechless I said "Thanks" and hung up.

If I remember correctly doesn't the General and his penguin buddy ride in a Corvette?


Try Nationwide... I shopped around for a couple of days and finally decided to leave Geico... Best Rate by far.

L33T Z34 01-15-2013 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 2096975)
All corporations are evil and heartless -- entities aimed purely at profit.

Insurance is a complete fucking racket.

Call around, and just get the cheapest and most reputable you can afford.

^What Jordo said^


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