SO any updates on the oil overheating problem?
 

ive been so busy with work i havent had the time to search the forum for updates. Has nissan done anything about this? what are our options as of now? and are those options covered by the warranty.

It seems more or less that Nissan has gotten an oil cooler made, but it isn't covered under warranty. Other than that, they're just selling it as a performance accessory. Stillen and Central 20 (also Setrab I suppose) have been selling as usual.

Also it seems, at least from what I've been reading, that the more miles put on the motor (more broken in) that the less it heats up the oil.

Mostly this has all been a mountain made out a molehill IMHO :stirthepot:

I don't expect Nissan to do anything. Best case scenario: they offer an aftermarket kit that can be installed by the dealer and not affect the warranty. Worst case scenario, they do nothing, but deny warranty claims if you install an oil cooler yourself.

Yes the engine runs hot. Some people have been able to invoke the limp mode by getting it REALLY hot. But this seems to be pretty hard to do for most of us. If you regularly get it very hot, install an oil cooler kit. Having your Nissan dealer install the kit may protect your warranty, especially if you can coerce your local dealer into a guarantee in writing.

Hot engines will reduce oil life. If you don't put in an oil cooler, then change your oil more frequently and/or get your oil tested to determine the effects on your specific engine wear, and to see what oil change intervals you should use based on how much life is left in your used oil.

Deal with it people & stop whining, please!

Is it a design flaw? Perhaps, but you'll never get Nissan to admit it. Should a sports car meant to be driven hard not overheat its oil? Yea, probably. But you can take responsibility for the way you drive it, add a kit yourself, and stop whining about it.

I'm taking my own advice.
1. Using the Nissan ester oil (not b/c of the ester, but b/c of the patented DLC additives)
2. Using a K&N or Mobil1 oil filter, adding a little capacity and better filtering
3. Changing the oil more frequently, until I can get a baseline on the oil degradation from an independent lab.
4. When I start tracking the car, I will install an oil cooler (and maybe a differential cooler as well)

And I promise never again to post to a thread about oil temperature :ughdance:

If we could only get everyone else to agree on this as well...:ugh2:

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Most people couldn't give a rip about the oil temp because it doesn't affect them. The issue is Nissan not giving an answer wether an oil cooler will affect the warranty or not. The few people that may have an issue typically aren't adverse to adding an oil cooler other than how it will affect their warranty.

Stop whining - have you visitied the internet yet? I thought that was the purpose for the text based portion.... :P

Horraaaay. All issues now null and void. Nissan now has an optional oil cooler
From the dealer at $780. And it is covered under warranty. It was written in car and driver and someone here has the part number for the dealer if he is not aware yet of the new option install.

Horraaaay. All issues now null and void. Nissan now has an optional oil cooler
From the dealer at $780. And it is covered under warranty. It was written in car and driver and someone here has the part number for the dealer if he is not aware yet of the new option install.

u serious?

How about this...

No one post anything about oil temps or coolers until you have a Nissan warranty-covered oil cooler installed by the dealer in your car. Then post a big thread headline so everyone knows and this issue will finally RIP.

Most people on here install an aftermarket intake, exhaust, suspension, etc. that are not covered under warranty...why are people so concerned about the warranty coverage of an oil cooler?

The issue people are concerned about is that they might have some minor unrelated engine problem down the line, say a VVEL problem or a sealing problem, and Nissan will take one look at the car and say "You have an aftermarket oil cooler attached to the engine, therefore we're denying any warranty claim on engine repairs", on the basis that the aftermarket oil cooler could have had some malfunction that led to poor oiling which led to the failure. They would be ******** to do so, as it's easy to verify that the oil cooler is working properly, and a properly working oil cooler helps protect the engine. But after the GT-R mess nobody trusts them not to be ******** on warranty issues.

Edit: I'll pre-empt the standard replies:

Yes, the Magnusson-Moss Act is on your side here, in that legally they do have to prove that the oil cooler caused the problem. However, time and legal fees are on their side. They can still say "you're screwed", and then you have to pony up for a legal battle with them, which might cost more than the repair and take forever to resolve.

If I recalled correctly, it's $780 parts + $480 (give or take a few) for labor.

so they do have an oil cooler covered by warranty?

Ha ha! Get it in writing!

i got excited for a second lol

yes they did! They are marketing nismo oil and differential coolers.
Each one is $780 option. It "must" installed by the dealer to be covered
under warranty! I'm not sure on labor costs but i would expect around $345.
I know outside the dealership the coolers going for $480 at stillen now.
Bim sure its because now they have to compete with the part now being
Warranteed by nissan.
It just goes to show how much these tuner companies rape u when there's no
Competition.

Read that in Car and Driver too?? Your comments make no sense at all. After market coolers are cheaper than the "supposed" Nissan one, but the aftermarket guys are raping us?...Huh?
This makes about as much sense as most of your posts here on other topics..

i think what the other guy tried to say is when tuner companys have no competition they will raise their price. but now that nissan has an cooler that covers warrranty they lower the price. that shows how much profit they make.

Well; don't worry about how much profit tuner companies make; I suspect we aren't far from the day when some bureaucrat will be dictating to every company how much "profit" is "fair" and appropriate.

Until big-brother steps in to save us all, if you really feel tuner companies are rapping you you certainly have the option of not giving them your patronage.

No worries here...I'm already considered a "terrorist" by our current Homeland Security secretary so what can this commission do to me!

They can move you up to a DEFCON II terrorist! :mad:

The silent, black helicopters will probably be showing up any time now!

I haven't seen any price movement, have you? Aftermarket coolers run from $300 to $1000 +. Stilllen has a general sale on that puts their's at $425. It's been that way for awhile. None of that was in response to the $780 Nissan Motorsports cooler (Plus installation). They're (Stillen) probably still laughing over that pricing. If you want to cut the tuners out of their profit to design, engineer and fabricate a commercially acceptable kit than knock your socks off. You can put together a cooler system for $200. No one yet has confirmed that there will be any Nissan warranty on the Motorsports cooler. In fact, some of the customer relations folks have said specifically that it would void a warranty....There is so much mis-information flying around on this it's not even funny...

Can't you just build your own oil cooler kit for under 300?
I think I can get one for around 260.

Hit the link in my sig...Exactly what I did... $270 with a thermo sandwich plate and quality fittings...

Damn...so SUPPOSEDLY, you can get factory installed coolers covered under warranty for over 1 grand. HAAAAAA. How big is this dealership anyways? Even if a dealer offered me warranty, i wouldn't trust a dinky dealership for if they were to go under, you would have paid 1k for an oil cooler and STILL be screwed. I think since for the most part Nissan won't be doing anything in the very near future about this, it's just a much more hassle free to install your own at a MUCH cheaper cost and remove the cooler if engine related warranty issues arise.

Oil Cooler warranty option
 

I agree that the $1K price of the cooler including install is high but you shouldn't have to worry about the dealership going under. As long as you take it to a Nissan dealer, Nissan Corporate covers the warranty not the individual dealerships.

Dunno about that when it's a case by case scenario where one specific dealer said they'll cover it by their good will and Nissan corporate said they will not. It will most likely give you the runarounds.

Some of U people argue just to write somethin negative
. I'm basing rhis on stillens SETRAB cooler
That was was sold at 780. Nismo cooler is a SETRAB DESIGN.
The $425 is a sale price but if the sale goes away it will not go
To 780 again. Cuz that wuz jus the rape price.
You will see it in the low $500
By second year a good portion of these tuner parts will be 15% to 50%
Cheaper
The only way u will see prices go up again is when a higher tech replacement
Model of a part comes out. Which is very common in the tuner world.
Anyone who has tuned cars such as I understands this market trend.
The nissan part is 780 as opposed to almost the same part from stillen that
According to you is now at even a lower sales price of $425 n not $480.
I'm pretty sure the extra money u spend at Nissan is to cover warranty.
N though stillen warranties parts too.
Try makin a claim thru them n see wat they tell u. Lotta loop holes there.
N as for coolers generally running 300 to 1000 bucks. Good I guess competition still
Exists in america. But the focus here was about nismo have a warranteed
Solution. I just mentioned the price of the same product outside of nissan
Cuz tuners that do void warranty by day 3. May go to nissan to install an oil cooler
Though it won't be covered due to the mods they did.
They know they can save 300 and somwhat odd dollars.
N yes the price rape is an opinion. But based on market trends.

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Well it is to my understanding that the option is covered ONLY as a dealer install
This is confirmed by a REP at Don Davis Nissan. Maybe its only the dealership n they have the option
Of covering I dunno. But misinformation is not wat I'm giving.
Just call nissan if ur not sure. I will too. I have my complaint number
From my response l received from nissan 3 months ago concerning the oil cooler
Issue n I won't own this car for another 3 months.
Have any of u done that? If u don't know for sure? Call n use the complaint
Number so they know ur gripe instantaneously n will brief u.
But as far as my dealership is concerned I know I have been quoted.
"You get it installed with us and its covered.
That kind of mod done outside of nissan will void warranty"
Those were exact words.
Not to mention I read it in 2 magazines b4 I confirmed it.

There is one on every forum! Just a fact of life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Then please stop posting. Your "facts" are wrong, your logic is Wonky. Most of your posts make little sense..:confused:

If you really think the aftermarket groups like Stillen or Forged Performance (or Nissan for that matter) are "rapping" you then don't buy their product...that will either bring the price down or force them out of business. and in any case, they would probably prefer not doing business with customers who think they are getting rapped.

Good lord. :rolleyes: