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henryy370z 12-26-2012 07:50 PM

horrible snow day bad experience !!!
 
went to the mall came back it was snowing bad... i couldnt make it up a hill to leave cause soo much traffic. had to reverse a hill found a different way to exit. i was drifting everywhere on the high way pretty scary!!!. cars were beeping at me being mad annoying and haters lol.... finally almost made it home drifted in a bridge shitted myself.. than i was at a red light 3 blocks from my house which is a hill!!!!.. i did a 360 while cars were coming scariest moment i just parked my car in rites a random icecream place didnt care about tickets..... 3 hours later got done going to the gym with my moms car and it was pouring rain and attempted to get my z home cause i was scared of the haters. it was touch but she made it home. poor clutch!!!!

BLUESLATE 12-26-2012 07:56 PM

There must be a lot of haters where you live...

nmjaxx9 12-26-2012 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BLUESLATE (Post 2078345)
There must be a lot of haters where you live...

:roflpuke2:

I dont think they were haters, just more concerned that you may crash into them, they wanted to save their cars as well, which is understandable. Slippery cars in sleet/ice can be very dangerous missiles and can hit any car at any given time. :tiphat:

Mandingo 12-26-2012 08:04 PM

Jesus man!

dastaco 12-26-2012 08:14 PM

Yeah, that is why I don't take my Z out in the snow. These cars are just not ideal for that kind of weather.

OldGuy 12-26-2012 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by henryy370z (Post 2078337)
went to the mall came back it was snowing bad... i couldnt make it up a hill to leave cause soo much traffic. had to reverse a hill found a different way to exit. i was drifting everywhere on the high way pretty scary!!!. cars were beeping at me being mad annoying and haters lol.... finally almost made it home drifted in a bridge shitted myself.. than i was at a red light 3 blocks from my house which is a hill!!!!.. i did a 360 while cars were coming scariest moment i just parked my car in rites a random icecream place didnt care about tickets..... 3 hours later got done going to the gym with my moms car and it was pouring rain and attempted to get my z home cause i was scared of the haters. it was touch but she made it home. poor clutch!!!!

Keep that car off the road on snowy days, young fellow. We don't want to lose you.

KERMIT 12-26-2012 08:18 PM

Stock tires? That would be dumb

Snow tires? Perfectly fine

henryy370z 12-26-2012 08:25 PM

i didnt check the weather it was bad, peoples faces when i was drifting were hilarious yet scary

birdmanx1 12-26-2012 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by henryy370z (Post 2078337)
... it was snowing bad... i was drifting everywhere on the high way pretty scary!!!... drifted in a bridge shitted myself... i did a 360 while cars were coming scariest moment

Here is a quote from Bullet Tooth Tony somewhat appropriate to the story - "Never underestimate the predictability of ########"

Glad you made it home safe friend.

m4a1mustang 12-26-2012 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by KERMIT (Post 2078381)
Stock tires? That would be dumb

Snow tires? Perfectly fine

This. Sounds like summer tires in the snow/sleet. Not wise.

forza370z 12-26-2012 09:01 PM

Time to put on a set of snow tires for your own good and for others as well. Summer tires lose tractions under low temperature even if it's not snowing. This thread might be helpful for you.

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...k-lm-60-a.html

USMCASA 12-26-2012 09:01 PM

^that. i had guys in jacked up 4x4's giving me dirty looks because i was passing them in the snow with my all season tires running just fine

frost 12-26-2012 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by henryy370z (Post 2078393)
i didnt check the weather it was bad

Lucky your irresponsibility didn't kill someone.

Trips 12-26-2012 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 2078423)
Lucky your irresponsibility didn't kill someone.

I crashed following his poor grammer but he did string together more than 4 words. :p


Henry, Glad your safe but DON'T DO THAT AGAIN!! :shakes head:

enkei2k 12-26-2012 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Triple's (Post 2078436)
I crashed following his poor grammer but he did string together more than 4 words. :p


Henry, Glad your safe but DON'T DO THAT AGAIN!! :shakes head:

grammar...grammAr...grammAr

:icon17: :p

XwChriswX 12-26-2012 09:23 PM

You do realize that if you don't make it to the gym, it's not the end of the world... :ugh2:

enkei2k 12-26-2012 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 2078461)
You do realize that if you don't make it to the gym, it's not the end of the world... :ugh2:

Your post reminded me of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOSeOieLh7s

XwChriswX 12-26-2012 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by enkei2k (Post 2078464)
Your post reminded me of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOSeOieLh7s

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-SDORVG1986...dybuilding.jpg

JungleZ 12-26-2012 09:31 PM

hes from jersey... Gym tan laundry? someone photochop Pauly D in a 370Z... haha

XwChriswX 12-26-2012 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JungleZ (Post 2078473)
hes from jersey... Gym tan laundry? someone photochop Pauly D in a 370Z... haha

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instanc...x/32506445.jpg

cgust 12-26-2012 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by KERMIT (Post 2078381)
Stock tires? That would be dumb

Snow tires? Perfectly fine

Exactly! We had 12 inches of snow in Minnesota a few weekends back and my Z had no issues with Blizzaks on. It seemed to do as good or better than a front wheel drive car with all seasons.

henryy370z 12-26-2012 09:43 PM

Lmaooo ******* that made me laugh with the Pauly d, I should invest in snow tires, but I went to the gym after I parked my car I used my moms car for the gym fellows gym> lol

henryy370z 12-26-2012 09:44 PM

But thanks to everyone who said thank god I'm safe !!! Appreciate it

XwChriswX 12-26-2012 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by henryy370z (Post 2078504)
Lmaooo ******* that made me laugh with the Pauly d, I should invest in snow tires, but I went to the gym after I parked my car I used my moms car for the gym fellows gym> lol

:tiphat:

m4a1mustang 12-26-2012 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by henryy370z (Post 2078504)
Lmaooo ******* that made me laugh with the Pauly d, I should invest in snow tires, but I went to the gym after I parked my car I used my moms car for the gym fellows gym> lol

You should do it. You'll be amazed at how proper winter tires make snow just like any other day on the road. :tup:

dmhenderson 12-26-2012 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by enkei2k (Post 2078444)
grammar...grammAr...grammAr

:icon17: :p

Agreed.

Seriously, spell check, punctuation, paragraph structure and capitalization are your friends.

Edit: Double edit. No sense in being mean.

CDepp 12-26-2012 10:55 PM

10 sacks of 60lb Quickrete concrete in the boot and passenger flooring, over inflate tires by 5-7 psi(unless using snow tires); fixed.

Technique, if manual - start in second around 5K rpm releasing accelerator immediately when you can idle, then shift to 3rd to go faster than 2nd idle-speed.
Automatic - Try not to come out of 2nd, if you need to go faster, set your shift light to ~3,500 rpm.

This is just my suggestion if you have to drive the Z. Feel free to do as you feel safe. To me, snow and ice is 'basic'. Tornadoes at night are the challenge.

(learned to drive in a '54 Chevy deuce and a half flatbed 4-speed with no 3rd gear/learned to drive in snow in a '67 Pontiac GTO manual)

Glad to hear you didn't ruin your car, yourself, or anyone else or their car.

m4a1mustang 12-26-2012 11:08 PM

Nothing is going to make a summer compound drivable on snow and ice.

CDepp 12-26-2012 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dmhenderson (Post 2078543)
Agreed.

Seriously, spell check, punctuation, paragraph structure and capitalization are your friends.

Edit: Double edit. No sense in being mean.

"With automatic spell checkers running unleashed over what we compose, our era is that of correctly spelled typos."- Neil deGrasse Tyson

:tup:

3.7 ZPA 12-27-2012 05:21 AM

Yea, I took the bus home. Was NOT tempting fate in that crap last night.

wdkwang 12-27-2012 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by CDepp (Post 2078609)
10 sacks of 60lb Quickrete concrete in the boot and passenger flooring, over inflate tires by 5-7 psi(unless using snow tires); fixed.

i don't know if i'm reading that right but are you suggesting throwing 600lb worth of sacks in the trunk? that's a **** ton of weight for the z's trunk.

2011 Nismo#91 12-27-2012 07:49 AM

And this is why I don't like driving in bad weather, well NJ didn't even get bad weather, it was just a dusting of snow and sleet (mostly rain in the end). Yet people are still spinning their cars in circles and think its fun.

henryy370z 12-27-2012 08:18 AM

i need florida weather in new jersey!!!

CDepp 12-27-2012 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by wdkwang (Post 2078986)
i don't know if i'm reading that right but are you suggesting throwing 600lb worth of sacks in the trunk? that's a **** ton of weight for the z's trunk.

You're reading that properly. I grew up in southern Illinois and spent 2005-2009 in Cleveland driving rwd cars and trucks. I was at work on days where 4x4 owners weren't and I have never had issues. With the wider tires, a slight over inflation will decrease the rear footprint and cause the center of the tire to dig more. The weight helps keep the *** planted, although it can make it a little more sketchy when trying to stop on a downward slope.

m4a1mustang 12-27-2012 09:12 AM

That's way too much weight to put in the back of the Z. Total overload of the chassis. It would be extremely dangerous.

The solution is a proper set of winter tires, and you're GTG.

Augustus 12-27-2012 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2079115)
That's way too much weight to put in the back of the Z. Total overload of the chassis. It would be extremely dangerous.

The solution is a proper set of winter tires, and you're GTG.

:iagree:

Sucks that folks were pissed off at the OP. Around here folks usually band together to help one another when the weather gets rough.

I got caught in a blizzard last week in my Z. I made the mistake of thinking I could beat the snow home from the work Christmas party but the party ran long and the storm hit early. I'm 35 and I've driven all manner of front, rear, and AWD cars in the snow, so it's not a new experience for me. Beyond a shadow of a doubt, the Z + stock Yokohama Advan's made for the most useless car ever. I would guess that those with 19" sport-package tires would be in even worse shape in the snow. I'm all for having a little fun in the snow (I miss my WRX.... ), but the the complete lack of traction was ridiculous and dangerous.

While drivable where plowed & flat, hills were out of the question and the rears would spin at anything more than idle. Braking is seriously compromised. If you're less experienced at RWD and/or winter driving, it's an accident waiting to happen. Don't do it. I got hung up on a snow berm where they'd plowed an intersection, which required a sheriff deputy and a couple of good samaritans to push me out. Not enjoyable. Especially for them, with 50mph winds whipping around. :ugh2: At least the deputy was cool about it. :tiphat:

Once was enough for me. Lesson well-learned. Until I can replace the stock tires with some good high-performance all seasons or spring for a dedicated winter tire set, my Z's staying the garage when it snows.

One sliver lining, I did finally have a chance to really experience the ABLS (anti-lock brake limited slip) system in action. As a non-sport Z with an open diff, ABLS does do an fairly decent job of balancing torque between rears in extremely slippery conditions. I was reasonably impressed with it. :driving:

m4a1mustang 12-27-2012 10:49 AM

To those that have space to keep a spare set of wheels/tires around, I highly suggest a dedicated set of winter tires and a dedicated set of summer tires.

All-seasons are "no-seasons." A jack of all trades but master of none.

Snow tires really aren't just for snow. "Performance Winter/Snow" tires will give you maximum cold weather, dry pavement grip relative to a summer or all-season tire, while providing significantly better snow/ice performance.

The best thing about having a summer/winter setup is not having to compromise. You don't have to give up summer grip so you can have marginal winter grip. Instead, you get maximum summer grip and maximum winter grip. Have your cake and eat it too. :)

R0bDC 12-27-2012 11:22 AM

Lets talk about hills, I went to San Francisco on Tuesday and I came across this hill it was insane my car was having trouble getting to the top, then there was a red light and I was right in the middle on the hill, keep in mind it was raining pretty bad. So light turns green, car in front of me goes, I wait a few seconds, there is no cars behind me thank god! I take off in second gear and the back tires start spinning from the rain I'm assuming and I stall the car. Second try I take off in first gear, wheels start spinning and i stall, finally I switch to second gear and I WANT GO GET OFF THIS HILL, so I step on it the wheels start spinning again but I mange to start moving forward. It was intense, not something I want to do again. But I constantly go to San Fran and I need to learn so when into I don't have the fear of coming across some of these hills. Any recommendations on what gear to take off from? Or how to handle those situations? And tell me about experiences that u had And how you dealt with them.

CDepp 12-27-2012 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2079315)
To those that have space to keep a spare set of wheels/tires around, I highly suggest a dedicated set of winter tires and a dedicated set of summer tires.

All-seasons are "no-seasons." A jack of all trades but master of none.

Snow tires really aren't just for snow. "Performance Winter/Snow" tires will give you maximum cold weather, dry pavement grip relative to a summer or all-season tire, while providing significantly better snow/ice performance.

The best thing about having a summer/winter setup is not having to compromise. You don't have to give up summer grip so you can have marginal winter grip. Instead, you get maximum summer grip and maximum winter grip. Have your cake and eat it too. :)

:iagree: Preferred method.

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2079315)
That's way too much weight to put in the back of the Z. Total overload of the chassis. It would be extremely dangerous.

I hate to disagree, but I'm not sure how you calculated that. I've put a lot more in much less of a vehicle. You're talking top speed of 20mph (at most) in conditions where you'd have to apply this to keep from losing grip on inclines. And, unless you're hopping curbs every 100 ft, the chassis will do just fine with 600lbs distributed at 420 in the rear and 180 in the passenger seat flooring. (400lb/in. compression on rear stock springs, less on sport springs - offset by any drop). Stock, I have 1.25" clearance in the rear, with no spacers, meaning I can drop the entire 600lbs in the back without any damage (tucking rubber though). And, because the conditions are that bad, there's no way the car would be going fast enough to necessitate reflex speed of the springs to avoid a shock crush point.

EDIT: However, with the risk to damage (as m4a1 points out), especially for a mod'ed Z, it would be better if you just used another vehicle, public transpo, or get a rental ($10/day + gas in some areas).

CDepp 12-27-2012 11:34 AM

Besides, m4a1, who cares if our Z looks like a ghetto-lowered ride, WE HAVE TO GET TO THE GYM! :roflpuke2:


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