People are NUTS!
 

I hardly post on here usually just read and learn stuff but I had to post this.

Okay, so a friend hits me up on fb chat. Younger guy, cool as hell but FYI he's a Camaro owner. Now i'm not downing those guys or cars, just an FYI for you. We're shootin the sh!t like usual and then he asks me about my car...goes down hill from there lol.

6:43pm
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hows the Z man?

6:47pm
Manny De Ocampo
oh its good man. still stock but def enjoying it
the SS?

6:48pm
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thats good man thats all that matters. i am getting borla exhaust for christmas so all i will have to do next year is heads,cam.,slight port and polish and wheels.

6:51pm
Manny De Ocampo
right. Nice how much hp you looking to gain w/ borla?

6:55pm
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honestly i dont really know lol i know i make about 415 to 425 at the wheels now

7:00pm
Manny De Ocampo
thats pretty good

7:01pm
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its not bad the slomaro would spank your z man

7:02pm
Manny De Ocampo
lol yeah yeah bc you're not stock

7:03pm
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lol even if i was stock lol
i wanna see how my car copes with your through the twisties though

7:07pm
Manny De Ocampo
Nah not stock for stock. it'd be a drivers race for sure.
don't think the 'maro can hang in the twisties or a road course. Z is too nimble

7:08pm
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lol stock to stock i would dust you on straight camaro 426hp stock 420tq 370z 305hp stock 270tq
i think i can hang with you on the twisties because i do have coilovers and wider stance

7:11pm
Manny De Ocampo
lol dude your car has almost 500lbs over mine. and the Z is 332hp
late 350's are 305 with the HR in it

7:13pm
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lol even 332 at the crank your making 270 to 260 at the wheels camaro makes 384 at the wheels stock still making 124 wheel horse power then a 370z
not to be ignorant but Z are not that quick buddy they are made more for handling then straight line speed all i was saying is i think i can hang with you on the twisties with my improvements of coilovers and spacers

7:14pm
Manny De Ocampo
jake dynod his camaro stock..he was putting down 340 to the wheel. and besides you know all dynos are different. if you check all the 1/4 times for both Z and Camaro stock they're in the same range. probably the camaro is slightly faster --thus making it a drivers race

7:15pm
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here is a 370z getting dusted by a camaro plus 3 people in the camaro
2010 Camaro SS vs. 2010 370Z - YouTube
you do know every car dynos at different hp i am on the camaro forum the camaro ss dyno from 340 to 390 at the wheel

7:16pm
Manny De Ocampo
lol i just said that...
and yes i've seen that vid before
and both cars are fast. camaro is a tad bit faster. but a dig race will be close with 2 skilled drivers

7:18pm
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it is what it is man i know enough to where i know my cars capabilities and i know its not the fastest thing out there i also know it weighs a ton and half
what i mean that Zs are fast is dude 350zs are getting stomped on by v6 accord coupes
and 350s make more torque then 370z

7:21pm
Manny De Ocampo
no they dont lol its about the same

7:23pm
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lol whatever manny its like your telling me i dont know **** and i havent seen what i have seen....i know you love your 370 and you think its the **** and its fast..but at the end of the day there is always something faster i know thats true about my car as well there is mustangs out there that are faster then my car

7:26pm
Manny De Ocampo
lol dude u were spouting out wrong numbers for the Z of course im gonna call you on it. and i personally dont care how fast my ride is compared to others. i drive it and bought it bc i like the Z.

7:31pm
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my bad i dont know exact z numbers its not what i drive so i know the range that its in thats all..congrats thats what matters that you enjoy driving it but comparing your car to a car thats in another class and acting like your all high and mighty is ignorant its like me going to a stock viper and being like i will smoke your viper but at the end of the day i will lose every time.. but anyways i enjoy driving my car and i enjoy other cars as well like german cars and Zs and other Japanese cars i dont discriminate and act all high and mighty because i have a v8...honestly i think you need to humble your self a little more..not trying to be a **** just being honest

7:51pm
Manny De Ocampo
dude YOU said and i quote "the slowmaro will spank your Z" so i dont quite know why you think im being high and mighty you started that ****. although i like all types of rides foreign and domestic i dont give a **** about anyone elses but mine. i dont run around comparing my **** to anyones. you brought this **** up so chill on all that be humble/ high and mighty ********. stop being so damn sensitive over 1/4 mile times on a car. not that serious.

:shakes head:

What an ignorant *******. Good lord.

You should have started typing in all caps.. that's how you get serious on the internet.

Lol i should have. I mean damn either he just went from zero to retard or he trolled the sh!t outta me!

In my experience, people go 0 to retard early and often when doing the automotive pissing contest.

you should race him for slips.

then after you beat him, tell him he owes you a 10 second car cuz the camaro wasn't enough of a prize.

and you should stop being his friend. that's how most of these arguments end anyway. just sever ties earlier. less painful.

I feel every enthusiast hobby attracts the same type of idiots. We could be on a fly fishing forum with the same crap...

Fly fishing is for THE WEAK! You fish with TNT or you don't fish at all.

Sounds like he really really wished he bought a Z so he could rightly be high and mighty...dork.

Agreed @ Kermit.

I was just surprised how quickly I turned into a "high and mighty" Z-dewsh lol

Haha would it be immature to 'de friend' him? You handled that well. He sounds like he needs to compensate for something.

Z are the champions of The World!



(apologies to Freddie Mercury)

/defriend

lol nah both him and his bro are good friends. In the end it was just a bs (yet hilarious) disagreement.

Also funny, his older brother owns a sick Z lol.

I mean, there are speed 3s that beat camaro SSs... and 370z for that matter...
We have a quick reaction on my ms3 forums: people that want to compare totally mismatched cars are complete retards.

It's OBVIOUS that a car that puts out 150hp more will win the race unless it is a TANK.
There's no competition, no comparison, and most importantly - NO bragging rights!
He's basically comparing a twin-turbo Z to a stock civic si... I think we all know the outcome. Which says nothing about the merits of either car or driver.

Also, Camaros are ugly.

Some friend you got there.

My first HPDE saw a Camaro and a Mustang just crawl around the track. The Slowmaro (I liked that) had brake and suspension upgrades, and held me up well over a minute. It could not compete anywhere on the track.

If you want, skip to 13:30 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ltgSHceCVg

Never go full retard.

yea, i agree with other poster, unfriending would be childish. just remind yourself when he starts being narcissistic that he has a tiny d**k.

o his brother has a fast Z? so the jealousy is deep rooted...

imo this is very true, actually its just true!! :bowrofl:

"slowmaro" I think he was disappointed in your driving abilities, it all depends on the driver some are slow some fast, wait no some cant even drive a fast car. :rofl2:

Dude, my Z will smoke a 458 any day of the week! I know it because I saw a YouTube video!:shakes head:

Reminds me of a couple years ago when my friend was convinced his '88 3-Series would beat my 5.5 gen Max. The end results weren't what he had envisioned.

Suggestion: Settle everything up at the drag strip and then head out to a track day after.

That would be hella fun and you guys could rib each other too. Heck, make some small wagers too... Like... Loser pays for fuel. :)

Definitely the 370Z can smoke the "slomaro" with a skilled driver. My Z can probably beat it with Chuck Norris behind the wheel :)

If I wanted a drag car, I'd of gotten a Mustang Rosh, or MBW M3, or a vet. I believe the Z is a purpose built car. It has respectable 0-60 times for what it is for the $. I could take the old mans Bently GT stock and run rings around the Camero all day, all night, all weekend... but we are not comparing apples to apples. As aways, if some one wants to "run what you brung" I'm not gonna show up with a stock honda civic. Duh! :icon23:


Afterthought: Ok well, well on my current budget, I might. But I'd stick my head out the window and make loud turbo blow off sounds all the way down my 16 second 1/4 mile run. At least I sounded fast... :icon14:

BMW M3 - Drag Strip Not A Good Mix Now On The Other Hand Take It Around A Track thats a different story.

E46 M3 has weak subframes and will crack if launched too hard.

I would know that because i owned 2 Z's and an E46 M3.


Oh btw some of the post here crack me up.

Oh and I am the brother with the Z.

Alex I like how you made a 370z forum profile just to respond to this lol...

Hilarious convo

I love when guys say things like my car will "smoke, rape, kill, crush, destroy" car A,B,C when infact we are talking about practically half a car length, door to door etc

LMAO ... seriously? Yes your so special that i had to make profile just to reply here.


Scott told me to make a profile a while ago on here and see if anyone wanted to trade for my wheels.

I just havent gotten around to creating one.

Crazy coincidence then....ha.

I was ignorant once [15 years ago]. When arguing about imports versus domestics the comment about imports not running out of gas as quick comes up quite often. :p

lol What are you trying prove here Manny?

Camaros actually gain 0 HP from exhaust...we gain a lot HP from headers if anything...and I highly doubt a Camaro can keep up with a Z in the twistied but in a drag race its a driver race leaning to the SS jus because of the torque they have in em

Camaros are really not all that fast. I have driven a 2012 SS with full bolt ons and a tune and I wasn't impressed at all. They are just to heavy and you can feel it while you drive.

they are heavy but when they get rolling and you get on it...not many cars can keep up with

So... the brothers are here?

The thing is, they don't feel fast at all. I drove a friends SS shortly after he bought it and running it hard through 2nd and 3rd was not that exciting. The Z still gives me a thrill through those gears!

One of the two, the 350 owner.

1st and 2nd gear felt the same as my 350z but 3rd gear was what surprised me. A lot of cars can keep up with one haha

So are trains.

:roflpuke2::roflpuke2::roflpuke2:

Big difference between going fast and driving excitement. While a camaro technically is marginally faster. A Z feels very fast in the low gears, seating position is way more sport oriented, suspension is stiffer, slalom feels so much smoother and connected to the road. And we can get to 60 way faster than any other NA v6 under $60k

Just the fact that we do what we do with an "inferior engine says a lot. The Camaro wins on torque delivery and range. In manual. The camaro can lose to a Z. if the driver can't switch em well. An automatic Z can be a camaro's worst nightmare though when comparing stock. That's where its really a drivers race. From a rolling 60? The camaro wins hands down. Still impressive with. Almost 100 less hp and 130lbs of torque.
500lbs difference makes these two totally different cars though.
So both should be respected.

You totally nailed it and i couldnt agree with you more. :bowrofl:

So as far as me....

I am a car enthusiast and i respect all makes and models except the cars that try to be like the fast and furious with loud exhaust pipes and super huge wings.