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edub370 12-03-2012 02:26 PM

Boost/AFR gauge ideas
 
ok.. i started one of these before, but it didnt yield much. so try again

so as i look to go fi, one of the most difficult things im finding is what to do about gauges. having nav kinda leaves me outta the option of doing cubby mounts. i have narrowed down a couple options.

1) blitz/hks nav display

http://www.the370z.com/images/370zforum/P1.jpg


while this is an AWESOME solution, u are looking at the better part of $2k to get all the necessary pieces and install... and well im not cool with that


2) Custom A pillar mount. i know a couple people have done this BUT idk if i wanna rask catching an autometer in the face at airbag speeds in a side impact.

http://www.the370z.com/members/dembf...-boost-afr.jpg

plus, i'm not so sold on the look...

3) getting something like this:

http://www.dynotunenitrous.com/store...ED_DISPLAY.JPG


and just mounting (velcro'ing) it to the left of the steering wheel where its pretty well hidden out of sight.


other than this, i am out of idea. i didnt think mountiung gauges would be this hard, but im kinda stuck tbh. i'm about to just say f it and throw them in the glove box and only look at them when i need to.

does anyone have any other slick mounting/location ideas to help me get some boost/afr readings in the car

2011 Nismo#91 12-03-2012 03:56 PM

You can replace the gauges on the dash

http://www.gtmotorsports.com/images/P/P1130158.JPG

king12sky 12-03-2012 04:07 PM

Option 1 is the best.. clean and nice. But money wise i would do 2. u can always conceal the A pillar with fabric upholstery!

DEpointfive0 12-03-2012 04:08 PM

Option 1!!!

VDC_OFF 12-03-2012 04:12 PM

or for those without navigation:

http://www.jscspeed.com/images/catal..._thumb_mid.jpg

edub370 12-03-2012 04:17 PM

without nav is easy. option on is my fav, but hard to justify the cost. fabbing an a pillar pod scares me lol. although maybe i should jsut suck it up and try it

SouthArk370Z 12-03-2012 04:39 PM

1) Best combo of function and form, but way too expensive for me.
2) Great option if only two gauges (maybe three) are needed. Not sure how much room there is for wiring, but any pods should take that into consideration. It looks just a tad too "ricer" for my taste, but not that bad.
3) Not sure how big that display is, but looks adequate for mounting in the cubby, on the mirror, or even on the pillar if it won't obstruct vision. Extra points if it will read the CAN bus.
4) (Replace triple gauges) This is my favorite. From what I've read, changing out the OEM triple gauge is a PITA, but would be well worth the effort.
5) (Gauges is cubby) Another great option, if done well. Tied for second place with #3.

edub370 12-03-2012 04:53 PM

the most easily do-able looks to be #3. maybe if i could somehow adapt a blendmount for a scangauge to that piece, it could nicely mount above the mirror

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/BlendMount-Cu...VQe8gw~~_3.JPG

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_...0009_large.jpg

side note: scan gauges only read the cars ecu outputs right? meaning u cant add afr/boost readouts into the mix?

kidkotic2001 12-03-2012 05:08 PM

I would go with option one

Mitco39 12-03-2012 05:12 PM

Didnt even realize there was something like option 1 until now. Might have to rethink my gauge setup that I had planned.

Dustin@Z1 12-03-2012 05:16 PM

Have you considered a windshield mount gauge set up....forgive me for referenceing my '06 Dodge Ram 2500....but we have 2, 3 and 4 gauge pod mounts that sit flush with the headliner along the windshield. It would take some working of the plastic to get the right profile, but I think it would work.

http://www.dp-tuner.com/media/catalo...d-overhead.jpg

GaleForce 12-03-2012 05:19 PM

If I had nav I would choose Option 1 /endthread

edub370 12-03-2012 05:32 PM

If i had deeper pockets i would choose 1.

GaleForce 12-03-2012 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edub370 (Post 2044480)
If i had deeper pockets i would choose 1.

You listed it as one of your options... Start saving those pennies. You'll need all the pennies you can get when you go FI. :tup:

SouthArk370Z 12-03-2012 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edub370 (Post 2044442)
the most easily do-able looks to be #3. maybe if i could somehow adapt a blendmount for a scangauge to that piece, it could nicely mount above the mirror

side note: scan gauges only read the cars ecu outputs right? meaning u cant add afr/boost readouts into the mix?

Nice looking installation.

You can read AFRs from the factory sensors via the CAN bus and display on a SGII, but if you use AFR sensors that are "out of the loop" to the ECU (ie, not on the CAN bus), I don't think you can get the SGII to read them.

IIRC, MAP is available via CAN, but not sure. I'm guessing that if you are using FI, you will exceed the range of the factory sensor. An after-market monitor will probably not be readable by the SGII.

Unless it's OBD/CAN-compatible, the SGII probably can't read it.

edub370 12-03-2012 10:33 PM

Bummer. Looks like i may be looking into retrofitting a blend mount for option 3. And yes i am saving pennies for fi, but if I'm saving pennies for that i can't save pennies for this at the same time

Mitco39 12-03-2012 11:01 PM

I dont mean to Hijack or anything,

But does anyone know where to find option 1? It looks like (atleast the Blitz) has been discontinued. I see GTM still has it on their website so I shot Sam a PM but am yet to hear back.

I did a few searches around google tonight with no luck.

Mitch

Felix 808 12-04-2012 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2011 Nismo#91 (Post 2044350)
You can replace the gauges on the dash

http://www.gtmotorsports.com/images/P/P1130158.JPG

This is the option I am looking to go with Blue Max combo gauges oil press/oil Temp & Amp/ H20 Temp Oil Pressure/Temperature Combo Gauge

takjak2 12-04-2012 08:18 AM

A pillar gauges are like horse blinders in any car, let alone ours.

edub370 12-04-2012 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitco39 (Post 2044898)
I dont mean to Hijack or anything,

But does anyone know where to find option 1? It looks like (atleast the Blitz) has been discontinued. I see GTM still has it on their website so I shot Sam a PM but am yet to hear back.

I did a few searches around google tonight with no luck.

Mitch

GTM Motorsports*::*ELECTRONICS*::*BLITZ R-Vit DS VEHICLE MONITORING SYSTEM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Felix 808 (Post 2044939)
This is the option I am looking to go with Blue Max combo gauges oil press/oil Temp & Amp/ H20 Temp Oil Pressure/Temperature Combo Gauge

i have heard this was very difficult to do. i wonder how well a PLX gauge would fit inthere since its super thin...

http://www.turbodirect.co.za/PLX%20gauges%201.png

leighspped 12-04-2012 08:55 AM

ill have more update on how the install is going in my STI. they are very nice thin gauges

Quote:

Originally Posted by edub370 (Post 2045110)
GTM Motorsports*::*ELECTRONICS*::*BLITZ R-Vit DS VEHICLE MONITORING SYSTEM



i have heard this was very difficult to do. i wonder how well a PLX gauge would fit inthere since its super thin...

http://www.turbodirect.co.za/PLX%20gauges%201.png


theDreamer 12-04-2012 09:19 AM

Found this on HKS Japan website: HKS OB-LINK

http://www.hks-power.co.jp/en/produc.../ol_img_01.jpg

edub370 12-04-2012 10:21 AM

that will only display stock perameters tho right?

u can get "torque" for free on the androidd app store and get and obdII plug in and have a similar system i imagine

theDreamer 12-04-2012 10:27 AM

Your two best options are:
-HKS Camp 2 which plugs directly into your navigation and OBD2 and will not cost $2k I can bet you that. The system was around $600 and each additional cable reader is $150-$200 and the install was quick (probably an easy DIY if you want).
-Replace the 3 gauges in the dash, this just requires taking out the dash which is probably half a days work for a shop and then mounting them, waiting for it to set and put the dash back in.

Neither options is cheaper or more expensive than the other, but both provide the best solution for having aftermarket gauges for forced induction.

Mitco39 12-04-2012 10:45 AM

It looks like all the Camp 2 items are discontinued. I am having a hard time tracking down the Blitz system as well (Yes I know GTM has it listed, doesnt mean they have it as I am still waiting to hear back from sam)

edub370 12-04-2012 11:01 AM

^^ Truth. seems like finding camp 2 isn't easy. why th ef cant someone jsut make a single pod that attaches to our piller towards the base that doesnt affect airbag function. then i could throw a plx on there and call it a day

GaleForce 12-04-2012 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edub370 (Post 2045287)
^^ Truth. seems like finding camp 2 isn't easy. [hy th ef cant someone jsut make a single pod that attaches to our piller towards the base that doesnt affect airbag function. then i could throw a plx on there and call it a day

I'm doing that right now. It doesn't interfere with airbag function and has minimal impact on outward vision loss.

edub370 12-04-2012 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 2045547)
I'm doing that right now. It doesn't interfere with airbag function and has minimal impact on outward vision loss.

Any pics of your progress?

Mitco39 12-04-2012 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edub370 (Post 2045701)
Any pics of your progress?

Link is in his Sig, hes a talented mofo, haha.

http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...ces-build.html

GaleForce 12-04-2012 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edub370 (Post 2045701)
Any pics of your progress?

Yes, see below.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitco39 (Post 2045705)
Link is in his Sig, hes a talented mofo, haha.

http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...ces-build.html

:icon18: thanks bud :tiphat:

The pictures in my build thread will give you an idea. The shape has been modified slightly. I was able to shave another 1/8" off the top area.

Baer383 12-04-2012 08:11 PM

I built my own gauge pod for my "A" pillar.

http://www.the370z.com/members/baer3...gauge-pods.jpg
http://www.the370z.com/members/baer3...gauge-pods.jpg

http://www.the370z.com/members/baer3...ed-product.jpg
http://www.the370z.com/members/baer3...-pass-side.jpg

Nut_N_Much 12-04-2012 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 2045172)

Wasn't there a write up with this done to an Galaxy IPAD that was mounted to the cubby hole. All gauges on a 10 to 12 inch screen.

I hate posting without the reference, sorry. I can't find the write up. OBD blue tooth with a Boost/ARF gauge replacing the clock on the dash would be nice and clean.

edub370 12-04-2012 08:54 PM

Did you paint that or cover it with something? The finish looks almost factory. Great job!

Baer383 12-04-2012 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edub370 (Post 2046029)
Did you paint that or cover it with something? The finish looks almost factory. Great job!

Thanks!!!

I used SEM textured spray we use it at my shop it is designed to give it a OE appearance.

SEM Products 39853 - Texture Coating | O'Reilly Auto Parts


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