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kenchan 03-17-2015 05:50 PM

20k is old.. :icon08: mine is 16.5K... :icon17:

my G has 35K miles... her csc is absolutely fine as well. :p

Dwight Frye 03-17-2015 06:15 PM

No issues what so ever with mine and my '09 will hit 50K miles this week.
All I have done as far as maintenance was a fluid refresh at 35,000 miles and I don't drive it like an over-testosterone'd 20 something who never owned a manual transmission car before and has an obsession with fake carbon fiber overlays so maybe that has something to do with it.

LAVA 03-17-2015 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3140713)
Dealer won't warranty it unless it fails. Sometimes it'll start to leak and the dealer will just put in GT-R clutch fluid. Eventually it fails.

Dirty clutch fluid in the hydraulic system combined with usage causes failure. I don't think it can handle hard launching, but that might show 'abuse' on the clutch risking the dealer not covering it. And believe me, they will look for any excuse not to cover it.

I wouldn't be surprised if you could just pump the clutch pedal repeatedly full stroke and have it fail eventually. Like all the way to the floor and hold for a moment every time.

But if I were you, I wouldn't worry about it unless you drive the car hard. Just drive it until the OEM one fails, at which time you replace it with an aftermarket one. Ideally, you can time the replacement of the clutch at the same time in which case it probably wouldn't fail for years. Kenchan has an 09 with like 20K miles (maybe?) and his CSC is fine.

I already have the GTR fluid in mine and only drive it in the non winter months, even then it's not a DD so by that standard I may be ok for a while.
Thx for the info.

R0bDC 03-18-2015 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3140583)
Not quite sure how the CSC is a safety issue. It's not like you can't brake if it fails; you can still steer as well.


How is it not? You can be on the freeway going 90mph per hour. Sure you can steer, but you are losing speed. Not to mention you cant shift gears or press the brakes because the car will die on you.

I can think of multiple scenarios of how it can dangerous. You may think, "Ohhh thats would be very unlikely" but hey when you have thousands of people driving out there unlikely becomes likely.

JARblue 03-18-2015 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by R0bDC (Post 3141070)
How is it not? You can be on the freeway going 90mph per hour. Sure you can steer, but you are losing speed. Not to mention you cant shift gears or press the brakes because the car will die on you.

I can think of multiple scenarios of how it can dangerous. You may think, "Ohhh thats would be very unlikely" but hey when you have thousands of people driving out there unlikely becomes likely.

No worse than any number of potential incidents that can happen on the roadway. Driving a vehicle is dangerous, period. CSC failure is safer than a tire blowout, which is far more common. Just put your hazards on and move over to the shoulder. It's not like you're going to slow down 30 mph suddenly - you'll just gradually slow down from the engine braking. And why do you say you can't brake? If you're going 90 mph, you can brake all the way down to 2/3 of that speed (~30 mph) before worrying about engine dying. That should give you plenty of time to make your maneuver to the side of the road. I would argue that going 90 mph is less safe than the CSC failing at highway speeds.

Not to mention, I can't even recall any incidents where the CSC failed completely while driving. Most people come out to a mushy pedal when they get in the car.

I guess my point is that there are other things to be more concerned about failing while on the highway. The CSC failing is going to much more manageable than some more common scenarios.

njobe89 03-18-2015 10:33 AM

i bought my car 11 months ago with 56 miles, now i'm at 22,xxx and nothing is wrong with it... yet. i think the failure might vary from how people drive. i.e do they put it in first gear and hold the clutch at a red light the whole time. etc. etc.

i don't abuse my car, but i sure do push it once a week i would say.

R0bDC 03-18-2015 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3141196)
No worse than any number of potential incidents that can happen on the roadway. Driving a vehicle is dangerous, period. CSC failure is safer than a tire blowout, which is far more common. Just put your hazards on and move over to the shoulder. It's not like you're going to slow down 30 mph suddenly - you'll just gradually slow down from the engine braking. And why do you say you can't brake? If you're going 90 mph, you can brake all the way down to 2/3 of that speed (~30 mph) before worrying about engine dying. That should give you plenty of time to make your maneuver to the side of the road. I would argue that going 90 mph is less safe than the CSC failing at highway speeds.

Not to mention, I can't even recall any incidents where the CSC failed completely while driving. Most people come out to a mushy pedal when they get in the car.

I guess my point is that there are other things to be more concerned about failing while on the highway. The CSC failing is going to much more manageable than some more common scenarios.

I wrote this huge paragraph, and then I was like......... "Is it worth it?" I think it can be a safety issue in some scenarios.

Davey 03-18-2015 07:23 PM

Any failure of anything could be a safety issue in some scenarios. Alternator belt snaps? OMG your lights go dim and you crash into a lake and die.

Someone issue a recall and get us teflon belts. :D

I do wish they would fix the damn part, but I don't hold out much hope for a recall.

R0bDC 03-18-2015 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Davey (Post 3141880)
Any failure of anything could be a safety issue in some scenarios. Alternator belt snaps? OMG your lights go dim and you crash into a lake and die.

Someone issue a recall and get us teflon belts. :D

I do wish they would fix the damn part, but I don't hold out much hope for a recall.

:gtfo2: Hahahah What an A-Hole, Just kidding.

But seriously, Nissan consciously knows the slave is faulty! That's what bothers me most most.

Davey 03-19-2015 05:59 AM

:tiphat:

If you think that's me being an A-hole, stick around, you'll be amazed. :tup:

JARblue 03-19-2015 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by R0bDC (Post 3141793)
I wrote this huge paragraph, and then I was like......... "Is it worth it?" I think it can be a safety issue in some scenarios.

:icon17: :tup:

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Originally Posted by Davey (Post 3141880)
Any failure of anything could be a safety issue in some scenarios.

This was my point. Can't worry about everything that might possibly go wrong.

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Originally Posted by R0bDC (Post 3141988)
But seriously, Nissan consciously knows the slave is faulty! That's what bothers me most most.

:iagree: It's like the ESCL (steering lock). Hell, they even issued a recall on the ESCL, and the version used in the recall had known failures on the forum even before the recall was issued. Stupid Nissan :shakes head:

11Thumper 03-19-2015 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by georgem71 (Post 3139481)
If I have to I will hire an attorney and just go all out. It's almost been a week without my z and it's deviating because I've been driving a civic

Sure you will...;)

Haboob 03-19-2015 02:45 PM

I'm more worried about it going out on the freeway on my way home, which for the most part is just gears 1-3 (third gear if I'm lucky) and stuck in the middle lanes. I wouldn't be able to coast over to the shoulder or anything, I'd just have to sit in the middle of the freeway, creating more of a cluster ****.

georgem71 03-19-2015 08:26 PM

**Update**
Was able to get the CSC covered under warranty. Still going to replace everything with Z1 though ;)

Davey 03-20-2015 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by georgem71 (Post 3142980)
**Update**
Was able to get the CSC covered under warranty. Still going to replace everything with Z1 though ;)

Can you clarify... Did you get your dealer to agree to perform the work using the Z1 parts? Or do you mean later down the road you'll do the Z1 stuff?

I'm pretty sure I could get my dealer to goodwill the install in any case but I have not yet heard of anyone getting the upgraded cylinder put in during the warranty work.


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