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Jsolo 10-19-2012 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr&Mrs (Post 1971440)
Better not say that to GTR owners lol

Automatics have come a long way. RESPECT!

Lol. True indeed. Some of today's autos are indeed faster than a manual. I get bored quickly when driving. A manual keeps me more engaged to the driving experience.

@m4a1mustang, excellent point. The OP should see if he can find a dealer that will let him take the car for a day or two. Put some miles on it and see if he can justify it to himself to make the switch.

mikeSS 10-19-2012 11:31 PM

i talked it over with my father about what i should do. he said the 370z is the car to get. but he is a Japanese car enthusiast since the 70s. so hes bias as hell lol

NissanGuy23 10-19-2012 11:37 PM

I may have missed you saying this because i didn't want to read the whole thread, but what trim level / packages of a Z are you looking at? Base / Sport / Nav / Touring / Nismo?

ssmoked 10-20-2012 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeSS (Post 1970941)
hey guys. i have thought about getting a 370z since 2009. i went with a camaro SS instead. I put a lot of money into my camaro. the car has around 520HP, cammed, full exhaust, intake, dyno tune. suspension mods, lightweight rims, tires etc.. the car sounds WICKED. and the looks to match.

but when i say to my self i would rather have a stock 370z over my modded SS, i know i need to sell it. i am sick of the whole camaro and mustang scene. i hate how they offer v6 and v8s . its just not a true performance car. the car should only have a v8 in it. i hate seeing so many v6 camaros and mustang around driven by non enthusiast. it just bothers me. so i am selling my camaro, and hoping it should cover a used 370z. i think i can get around 25-30 for the camaro.

but heres my concern. i really have never bought a used car before, and also one that has been out for this many years. i am the kind of guy who likes the newest and baddest thing. but as if this moment this is the car i want.

so when is the new Z coming out ? i would like to get at least 2 years out of the car before a new looks comes out.

I havent experienced anything with my 2011 yet with 23k miles. But the paint quality on the car is HORRIBLE!

Amuse370z 10-20-2012 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Jsolo (Post 1971426)
Unless you're really itching for a new/different car or there's something wrong with the camaro, who cares what other people drive.

With all the mods you've done, you're going to end up taking a loss on the deal. Is it really worth it to be in a somewhat more unique car? Around here, I see lots of G's (mostly awd), Z's, camaro's, mustangs, etc... The only thing that bothers me is that most of them are automatics. True enthusiasts drive with 3 pedals, not 2 :)

Manual cars will soon be a thing of the past, whether "enthusiasts" like it or not.

Brb IS-F, GTR, C63, Aventadors, 458 italias, etc

mikeSS 10-20-2012 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Amuse370z (Post 1971822)
Manual cars will soon be a thing of the past, whether "enthusiasts" like it or not.

Brb IS-F, GTR, C63, Aventadors, 458 italias, etc

i will in time be a thing of the past, but not as soon as you think. those are supercars with very advance trannys. much more than you will find in a 370z or mustang right now. those tranny have shown to be much better than a manual.

but the ones in the current affordable sports are not at that level yet.

lemon-fresh 10-20-2012 03:00 PM

Cool, sounds like you're making the switch for all the right reasons. Don't let this forums "cult of mustang" try to passively talk you out of it...

11Thumper 10-20-2012 04:08 PM

Hey Mike,

You gave me a few tips on the Camaro when I was in the market back in '11. I ended up with a Z of course. They're both nice cars. I think they both look sexy except the Z is hands down nicer on the inside. I think offering two engine packages is fine. After it all it gets more of them produced and that increases parts availability (benefits the Camaro more :p). But to me it wouldn't matter what other people do and I couldn't care less. If they offered a 4 banger 370Z (maybe a 120Z lol) who cares...I just wouldn't buy it. I think Transformers really helped Camaro sales...

The Z is a great car. I wanted an automatic so the choice was obvious because the AT in the Z is wonderful. I have another manual car to play with and the Z is my commuter. Watch for possible oil consumption issues on '09-'10 models but not all of them have this issue. My '11 doesn't burn oil at all and has treated me well. Heck, it still has the new car smell.

OldGuy 10-20-2012 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by gsxr750 (Post 1970952)
Just don't buy anything older than a 2012, the previous years tend to have more issues and most seem to have been resolved with the 2012 production run. Definitly stay away from the 2009-2010 yrs.

I bought my '09 Z new in '09 and it's been virtually perfect.
You may be able to get a new base 2012 in a few months for $30,000 if you shop carefully and bargain hard. I did in December '09.

FairladyZ 10-20-2012 07:32 PM

I wouldn't switch you are deep in it. Just losing money, unless you are that unhappy with it

DCNISMO 10-20-2012 07:46 PM

I had a modded B6 S4 Audi with the V8 and at times I miss that power in my Z. But the light weight and handling of the Nismo is far better. I think I'll go GTM stage 1.5 and then I'll be really happy!

mikeSS 10-21-2012 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by 11Thumper (Post 1972021)
Hey Mike,

You gave me a few tips on the Camaro when I was in the market back in '11. I ended up with a Z of course. They're both nice cars. I think they both look sexy except the Z is hands down nicer on the inside. I think offering two engine packages is fine. After it all it gets more of them produced and that increases parts availability (benefits the Camaro more :p). But to me it wouldn't matter what other people do and I couldn't care less. If they offered a 4 banger 370Z (maybe a 120Z lol) who cares...I just wouldn't buy it. I think Transformers really helped Camaro sales...

The Z is a great car. I wanted an automatic so the choice was obvious because the AT in the Z is wonderful. I have another manual car to play with and the Z is my commuter. Watch for possible oil consumption issues on '09-'10 models but not all of them have this issue. My '11 doesn't burn oil at all and has treated me well. Heck, it still has the new car smell.

thanks for you comment.

i want a car that is not so typical, and common. thats what i am going now. fast, sexy, rare. and of course affordable .

also, most after market parts are sold to v8 owners. so the fact that there is v6s and v8s. do not do much for after market. only GM parts.

mikeSS 10-21-2012 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by FairladyZ (Post 1972210)
I wouldn't switch you are deep in it. Just losing money, unless you are that unhappy with it

Whats more important?

not being truly happy, or saving money ? when i can afford to take a hit on parts and the car.

LakeShow 10-21-2012 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeSS (Post 1972451)
Whats more important?

not being truly happy, or saving money ? when i can afford to take a hit on parts and the car.

It's good to be happy...
http://www.gpb.org/files/national/teletubbies_main.jpg

axmea? 10-21-2012 12:44 AM

When was the last time you drove around town and some random guy "Nice Car" or people walking by does a double take or some chick tells you, I bet you get all the girls with that car......this is something so common with the Z and I have not yet said anything about how it handles in the twisties.........

Japanjay 10-21-2012 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by axmea? (Post 1972468)
When was the last time you drove around town and some random guy "Nice Car" or people walking by does a double take or some chick tells you, I bet you get all the girls with that car......this is something so common with the Z and I have not yet said anything about how it handles in the twisties.........

x2 :happydance:

FairladyZ 10-21-2012 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeSS (Post 1972451)
Whats more important?

not being truly happy, or saving money ? when i can afford to take a hit on parts and the car.

I did say unless you were truly unhappy.

Sounds like it from your reply lol

m4a1mustang 10-21-2012 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by lemon-fresh (Post 1971982)
Cool, sounds like you're making the switch for all the right reasons. Don't let this forums "cult of mustang" try to passively talk you out of it...

Why would a "cult of mustang" talk a guy out of selling a Camaro? :ugh2:





:icon17:

m4a1mustang 10-21-2012 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeSS (Post 1972451)
Whats more important?

not being truly happy, or saving money ? when i can afford to take a hit on parts and the car.

Being unhappy is better than being broke. But since you can afford to take the hit, go for it. :tup:

Tazicon 10-21-2012 10:17 AM

Wait till you get a Z and see all the women that are non enthusiast driving them, is that going to bug you as well?


FYI I know that there are some females that are enthusiast of the Z, but many are not.

obito 10-21-2012 01:26 PM

I would love to spend money into something that outstanding. we can find Camaro or Mustang every stoplight as you've been saying. What about the Z ? you bought a car worth than regular cars then you suppose to get outstanding outcome. Maybe, It's not about performance,but at least people looking at you and asking themselves. What is that nice car right there?

Japanjay 10-21-2012 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Tazicon (Post 1972644)
Wait till you get a Z and see all the women that are non enthusiast driving them, is that going to bug you as well?


FYI I know that there are some females that are enthusiast of the Z, but many are not.

The only girl I have seen with a Z in my area drives a sport Montery Blue, and let me tell ya, she drives that thing like she stole it. Lol. It took everything I had to catch up to her one day in town. Finally got up next to her, she had already seen me and had the window down, came to a stop right before the light turned green. All she got off was yelling really loud that she loves the car. Lol. Then she took off again like a bat out of hell. I was like :bowrofl: YES

nmjaxx9 10-21-2012 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by obito (Post 1972815)
I would love to spend money into something that outstanding. we can find Camaro or Mustang every stoplight as you've been saying. What about the Z ? you bought a car worth than regular cars then you suppose to get outstanding outcome. Maybe, It's not about performance,but at least people looking at you and asking themselves. What is that nice car right there?

:iagree: make the switch unless you getting/have a ZL1 then different story :bowrofl::bowrofl:

tyler20c 10-21-2012 08:34 PM

I had a '10 SS and i traded it on a brand new '10 Z with sports package. Sorry to say it, but I missed my camaro every single time I drove my Z. I still wish i wouldnt have gotten rid of it.

mikeSS 10-21-2012 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Tazicon (Post 1972644)
Wait till you get a Z and see all the women that are non enthusiast driving them, is that going to bug you as well?


FYI I know that there are some females that are enthusiast of the Z, but many are not.

out of the 5 370zs i have seen in my town. two of them were driven my "moms" its looked like.

out of the 100,000 of camaros and mustangs i have seen in my town. about 50,000 were a "mom".

cant wait for the Z.

nmjaxx9 10-21-2012 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeSS (Post 1973410)
out of the 5 370zs i have seen in my town. two of them were driven my "moms" its looked like.

out of the 100,000 of camaros and mustangs i have seen in my town. about 50,000 were a "mom".

cant wait for the Z.

its a sporty soccer mom car, better a soccer mom then a soccer dad driving, he maybe to enthusiastic about his muscle machine :bowrofl:

mikeSS 10-21-2012 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by tyler20c (Post 1973401)
I had a '10 SS and i traded it on a brand new '10 Z with sports package. Sorry to say it, but I missed my camaro every single time I drove my Z. I still wish i wouldnt have gotten rid of it.

there was a guy on my forums, that had a 370z nismo and a SS. he sold the nismo and kept the SS. said he liked the SS better.

Jordo! 10-21-2012 10:01 PM

Next gen Z is unlikely to be available before 2016.

Relative to your Camaro, the Z will feel much more nimble, but also less torquey (of course, if you want to spring for FI, the sky's the limit).

Stock (or lightly NA modded) the Z is a very capable all around sports car, but it is NOT a powerhouse, relative to a built V8 muscle car.

I'd go with a 2012 over a 2013 -- the small differences between the two are mainly cosmetic, and the 2012's should be available for a few grand less.

Test drive one and see what you think -- good luck!

mikeSS 10-21-2012 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 1973490)
Next gen Z is unlikely to be available before 2016.

Relative to your Camaro, the Z will feel much more nimble, but also less torquey (of course, if you want to spring for FI, the sky's the limit).

Stock (or lightly NA modded) the Z is a very capable all around sports car, but it is NOT a powerhouse, relative to a built V8 muscle car.

I'd go with a 2012 over a 2013 -- the small differences between the two are mainly cosmetic, and the 2012's should be available for a few grand less.

Test drive one and see what you think -- good luck!

that first comment really makes me feel good about getting a Z. i want the current looks for at least 2 years. from a purchase, which will most be this winter.

Fabio88 10-22-2012 12:00 AM

Just turbo the z and put some nos on it :)

mikeSS 10-22-2012 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Fabio88 (Post 1973623)
Just turbo the z and put some nos on it :)



i really want to keep it in stock forum, after modding my camaro as much as i did. it turns into a weekend car. which is not what i want anymore. i want to drive a sports car everyday. and not worry about ****, to be put it in simple terms. IDK if you have modded a engine like that before. but one thing that they always say is. nothing is 100% bulletproof, and if you want reliability. keep it stock or very basic bolts ons.

most of the time with good parts, tuner, INSTALLER. you will be fine. but i need to be able to take it to a Nissan dealership anywhere in my state, and not worry about getting something fixed. all they should be able to work with OEM parts.

nmjaxx9 10-22-2012 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeSS (Post 1973638)
i really want to keep it in stock forum, after modding my camaro as much as i did. it turns into a weekend car. which is not what i want anymore. i want to drive a sports car everyday. and not worry about ****, to be put it in simple terms. IDK if you have modded a engine like that before. but one thing that they always say is. nothing is 100% bulletproof, and if you want reliability. keep it stock or very basic bolts ons.

most of the time with good parts, tuner, INSTALLER. you will be fine. but i need to be able to take it to a Nissan dealership anywhere in my state, and not worry about getting something fixed. all they should be able to work with OEM parts.

Yeah I have seen that most people who go FI start to have engine problems, suprising how many people actually deal with issues from FI, but most of which arent documented.:icon17:

Quick370z 10-22-2012 12:32 PM

Test drive one though..and I would go with the touring over a base. The base seats are a bit too firm as a DD.

I had a '10 Roadster, it bit the dust, but that was because the dealership I bought it from owned it prior and bagged it. I wanted a Roadster over the Coupe as its just a more fun car to drive..but no roadsters were available.

They gave me a '11 coupe and its nice, but I couldn't keep it stock - main reason is because the stock sound of a Z is..well not for everyone. Once you do the mods though it comes alive and well is just that - a muscle car :)

Buy 2011 or 2012, touring with sports package and you'll be set, as for color its your choice.

nmjaxx9 10-22-2012 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Quick370z (Post 1974255)
Test drive one though..and I would go with the touring over a base. The base seats are a bit too firm as a DD.

I had a '10 Roadster, it bit the dust, but that was because the dealership I bought it from owned it prior and bagged it. I wanted a Roadster over the Coupe as its just a more fun car to drive..but no roadsters were available.

They gave me a '11 coupe and its nice, but I couldn't keep it stock - main reason is because the stock sound of a Z is..well not for everyone. Once you do the mods though it comes alive and well is just that - a muscle car :)

Buy 2011 or 2012, touring with sports package and you'll be set, as for color its your choice.

X10 Mods make everything good.:)

B&W_Evader 10-22-2012 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 1971445)
I like the SS, but to me it never seemed anything special, especially with so many Camaros on the road. Maybe I'm bias, but I still like the way the Z looks after nearly 3-1/2 years of owning it.

I've had mine for a little over a year now... Every time I go in the garage and see it I think, man, that's a cool car.:tup:

binary0x01 10-22-2012 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Quick370z (Post 1974255)
Test drive one though..and I would go with the touring over a base. The base seats are a bit too firm as a DD.

I had a '10 Roadster, it bit the dust, but that was because the dealership I bought it from owned it prior and bagged it. I wanted a Roadster over the Coupe as its just a more fun car to drive..but no roadsters were available.

They gave me a '11 coupe and its nice, but I couldn't keep it stock - main reason is because the stock sound of a Z is..well not for everyone. Once you do the mods though it comes alive and well is just that - a muscle car :)

Buy 2011 or 2012, touring with sports package and you'll be set, as for color its your choice.

Did you install the crank pulley yourself? If not how much did it run you?

binary0x01 10-22-2012 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by B&W_Evader (Post 1974345)
I've had mine for a little over a year now... Every time I go in the garage and see it I think, man, that's a cool car.:tup:

Too fuckin true that is...

Mr&Mrs 10-22-2012 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by nmjaxx9 (Post 1974206)
Yeah I have seen that most people who go FI start to have engine problems, suprising how many people actually deal with issues from FI, but most of which arent documented.:icon17:

FALSE! Tuning/Abuse is the cause of the FI problems. I know of no direct problem from any of the FI kits on this forum caused by the kit itself, or hurting the engine within its safe realm.

nmjaxx9 10-22-2012 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr&Mrs (Post 1974441)
FALSE! Tuning/Abuse is the cause of the FI problems. I know of no direct problem from any of the FI kits on this forum caused by the kit itself, or hurting the engine within its safe realm.

Well those are undocumented ones. :bowrofl:

Most people wouldnt like to tell you it messed up their engine, because going FI in the first place is a big deal for a lot. But then again owning up to your mess is something a lot of people dont have the guts to do, even if there is no factual (tuning,abuse) reason why it happened. :tup::driving:

DEpointfive0 10-22-2012 09:33 PM

I sent you a hell of a PM


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