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omm370z 10-12-2012 01:41 PM

Speedometer
 
Guys im in a hurry.

Here there is a new law that ends on having MAX 62.5 Miles on a new car to be considered "NEW"

Sadly im above it because all im doing.

The taxes for a Used car will be like 80% and im not in a good mood to pay that.

Is there a way to return it to 0 or at least the 7 miles that it came out from nissan?

If i change de speedometer Assy will this turn 0?

Im so pissed off.

Can some one illuminate me

Thank you

pfdaxe 10-12-2012 01:59 PM

That's illegal here and I would think other countries as well

onzedge 10-12-2012 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by omm370z (Post 1958317)
Guys im in a hurry.

Here there is a new law that ends on having MAX 62.5 Miles on a new car to be considered "NEW"

Sadly im above it because all im doing.

The taxes for a Used car will be like 80% and im not in a good mood to pay that.

Is there a way to return it to 0 or at least the 7 miles that it came out from nissan?

If i change de speedometer Assy will this turn 0?

Im so pissed off.

Can some one illuminate me

Thank you

Altering the odometer is a crime called "fraud" in the US. I know nothing about the laws in Peru except for the prohibitions on Llama sexual relations.

omm370z 10-12-2012 02:34 PM

lol
 
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Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 1958367)
Llama sexual relations.

LOL

Well, i don't wanna brake any law but what can i do?

Just replacecing the Speedo that Nissan sale will be considered as illegal?

martin82 10-12-2012 02:38 PM

Get a brand new speedo and should say 0 hopefully.... Or there are some shady places that will redo it...


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omm370z 10-12-2012 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by martin82 (Post 1958441)
Get a brand new speedo and should say 0 hopefully

I don't kwon if it will get to 0. I got told that there is 2 switches for it? 1 below the steering wheel and 1 in the ecu?

theDreamer 10-12-2012 03:18 PM

It will not reset to 0, mileage is stored in the ECU along with other places to stop this.

omm370z 10-12-2012 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 1958580)
It will not reset to 0, mileage is stored in the ECU along with other places to stop this.

Someone gave me a stupid solution "just cuttin some wires" wtf...

theDreamer 10-12-2012 03:23 PM

It is not worth the problems & legal issues to do this.
Your best bet is to challenge the claim of new v used when you import it.

omm370z 10-12-2012 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 1958594)
It is not worth the problems & legal issues to do this.
Your best bet is to challenge the claim of new v used when you import it.

I know but it is matter of taxes 9K vs 28K :/

phohman 10-12-2012 03:59 PM

What if it get the miles being transported. How do they include that!

omm370z 10-12-2012 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by phohman (Post 1958685)
What if it get the miles being transported. How do they include that!

Sunat which is the government regulator is blindsided doesn't care about it

Coon-azz 10-12-2012 04:41 PM

:shakes head:
Quote:

Originally Posted by omm370z (Post 1958317)
Guys im in a hurry.

Here there is a new law that ends on having MAX 62.5 Miles on a new car to be considered "NEW"

Sadly im above it because all im doing.

The taxes for a Used car will be like 80% and im not in a good mood to pay that.

Is there a way to return it to 0 or at least the 7 miles that it came out from nissan?

If i change de speedometer Assy will this turn 0?

Im so pissed off.

Can some one illuminate me

Thank you

This is very illegal in most 1st world countries. In the US you can get pretty screwed if you get caught. Just an FYI. I dont know about other countries. I agree the sitautions sucks, but if you're willing to lie on this, it leads to the next question, what else are you willing to lie about? :shakes head:

anthonyy 10-12-2012 04:56 PM

LOL. I thought turtles could swim.

6MT 10-12-2012 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by martin82 (Post 1958441)
Get a brand new speedo and should say 0 hopefully.... Or there are some shady places that will redo it...


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Nope, it won't. You need the odometer reading and the VIN to install a new speedo unit.

binary0x01 10-12-2012 05:17 PM

It is illegal and can be done just like anything else by someone with the ability to solder electronic components and access to ready made ecu chips for your year/make of car or schematics for the chip.

Not worth the investment or the trouble if you ask me.

mbcx4jrh 10-12-2012 05:54 PM

Over here (UK), some cars are delivered to the dealer in D mode. in D mode the odo can be reset to zero, and it automatically resets after 200 miles.
The idea is the dealer does this as they deliver the car to you.

My wife's Alfa was mistakenly left in this mode when delivered to her...


Perhaps that is what the OP is referring to?

theDreamer 10-12-2012 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbcx4jrh (Post 1958870)
Over here (UK), some cars are delivered to the dealer in D mode. in D mode the odo can be reset to zero, and it automatically resets after 200 miles.
The idea is the dealer does this as they deliver the car to you.

My wife's Alfa was mistakenly left in this mode when delivered to her...


Perhaps that is what the OP is referring to?

No, his car I believe is here in the US and he is having it modified so it is being moved around prior to him taking it to Peru.
In Peru there looks to be a new law that if a car has over X miles on it they classify it as used and alter the tax rate. So the OP is trying to return it 0 or below the miles that pushes him over.

mbcx4jrh 10-12-2012 06:00 PM

Ahh.. i get it.. when he said "above that" I assumed he meant "just above that", not 10k above that ;)

axmea? 10-12-2012 07:29 PM

I am guessing here but a bit certain that this forum does not condone this practice. OP - not a good idea.

Yes I'm a Boys Scout. Hehehehe

omm370z 10-12-2012 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbcx4jrh (Post 1958870)
Over here (UK), some cars are delivered to the dealer in D mode. in D mode the odo can be reset to zero, and it automatically resets after 200 miles.
The idea is the dealer does this as they deliver the car to you.

My wife's Alfa was mistakenly left in this mode when delivered to her...


Perhaps that is what the OP is referring to?

lol this works?

omm370z 10-12-2012 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 1958874)
No, his car I believe is here in the US and he is having it modified so it is being moved around prior to him taking it to Peru.
In Peru there looks to be a new law that if a car has over X miles on it they classify it as used and alter the tax rate. So the OP is trying to return it 0 or below the miles that pushes him over.

Yeah can't pass 62.5 miles 3 weeks ago was 44 miles before getting all the performance parts instaled

omm370z 10-12-2012 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by axmea? (Post 1959007)
I am guessing here but a bit certain that this forum does not condone this practice. OP - not a good idea.

Yes I'm a Boys Scout. Hehehehe

I understand but it is a bit sour for me

theDreamer 10-12-2012 07:50 PM

Is the law of new v used online in a pdf file on the governments website somewhere?
Or all the legal stuff basically.

omm370z 10-12-2012 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 1959035)
Is the law of new v used online in a pdf file on the governments website somewhere?
Or all the legal stuff basically.

I spoke with the enitity called Ministry of Transport and Communications and they said that there is a new law published on the official peruavian news paper and i spoke with some people that work for the port and do imports. The law exist and it is stupid.

They said that this law is made to prevent a flood of used cars because what some people did was to buy a wrecked car and declared as same, but the damage was nothing because i think the insure for you guys is too much.

So this people fixed that lil damage and sold it here as new. The law before was 80,000KM (50k miles) and 5 years old max but now is 100kM (62.5 miles) and the years remain the same.

I did search on the web but nothing even i called SUNAT and they said there is no problem 50k miles car can enter. They are worse than nissan customer service as i read in the forum lol

birdmanx1 10-12-2012 11:16 PM

Deal mano a mano with the customs officer ;)... seriously

omm370z 10-13-2012 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by birdmanx1 (Post 1959341)
Deal mano a mano with the customs officer ;)... seriously

Impossible ha

houkouonchi 10-13-2012 05:31 AM

odometer...

Compdoc777 10-13-2012 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by omm370z (Post 1958649)
I know but it is matter of taxes 9K vs 28K :/

Have a new speedo cluster installed that will do it.

birdmanx1 10-13-2012 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by omm370z (Post 1959527)
Impossible ha

Nothing is impossible in Developing countries, a quick slip of a few hundreds dollars ... ;)

Mike 10-13-2012 05:59 PM

I would think a new speedo cluster install would do it. I know a friend put a JDM one in his G35coupe a few years back and it read 0.

If its only at 44, just have them flat bed the car everywhere from now until it ships.

jcosta79 10-13-2012 06:11 PM

Are you positive about that law?

Many exotic cars (Ferrari's, Lamborghini's, etc...) ship with a lot more miles than more "mainstream" cars. It's not uncommon for a Lambo to arrive from the factory with 60+ miles on the odometer. This is due to testing that is done before shipping the car. These cars are sold as new. The law you are talking about would make that impossible?

LMBmikeZ 10-13-2012 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcosta79 (Post 1960085)
Are you positive about that law?

Many exotic cars (Ferrari's, Lamborghini's, etc...) ship with a lot more miles than more "mainstream" cars. It's not uncommon for a Lambo to arrive from the factory with 60+ miles on the odometer. This is due to testing that is done before shipping the car. These cars are sold as new. The law you are talking about would make that impossible?

:iagree: a friend of mine that is much more........well off....... then I, he said the same thing to me, he was surprised I got my Z and it only had 15km (9-10 miles) on the odometer.

R6_Z 10-13-2012 10:44 PM

Pulling the abs fuse might work for the Z. Reason why I say it might work is because it works for the frontier. The reason to remove the abs fuse on the frontier or make a bypass switch like I did is for off road purposes. Having abs/abls enabled off road is horrible, now by doing a switch to disable the abs fuse the odometer stops working, it stops recording miles, a few dash light go on but it wont throw a code. Hopefully this helps

Mt Tam I am 10-14-2012 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 1958367)
Altering the odometer is a crime called "fraud" in the US. I know nothing about the laws in Peru except for the prohibitions on Llama sexual relations.

I like this. :iagree:

omm370z 10-14-2012 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike (Post 1960077)
I would think a new speedo cluster install would do it. I know a friend put a JDM one in his G35coupe a few years back and it read 0.

If its only at 44, just have them flat bed the car everywhere from now until it ships.

If the speedo is the reason i will buy a new one to replace this one. Was 44 like 3 weeks ago before the car was moved again. Im waiting for an answer to know what mile it is now. They still must install the endless then test then done but i think it will surpass 60

omm370z 10-14-2012 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcosta79 (Post 1960085)
Are you positive about that law?

Many exotic cars (Ferrari's, Lamborghini's, etc...) ship with a lot more miles than more "mainstream" cars. It's not uncommon for a Lambo to arrive from the factory with 60+ miles on the odometer. This is due to testing that is done before shipping the car. These cars are sold as new. The law you are talking about would make that impossible?

Yes i am. People here doesn't understand. This country is retard some times and it suck when they shout loud about stupid things.

You can't hold a dialogue with them. The law is the law even in this case that the car is new, that is irrelevant for them. They see things black or white thats it.

There is no discernment and even worse there is no entity that keep an eye on. If they can rape you they will. So funny that i got a friend that works for them in some area (sadly it is not the car area) and his co worker gave him an invoce with ghosts concepts. This is how corrupt it gets.

He also told me that no paper is valid just an invoce but this invoce can be raised after they check what model i got, in this case the base. Then they will check with the VIN on google or nada guides about descriptions and they can pickthe nismo price. Amazing...

Other case could be that a guy who really knows alot about cars can realize and say that my rims are no factory rims, that my kit is not the factory kit, tha my breaks is not and who knows what and i will be blown by corruption again.

Funky and funny it is but as this guy told me. The entity is one arm of the government and if they can break you in 2 pieces they will do. Im not a racist or e.w but most of the people that works there belongs to the high mass which means that they are poor or live in poor/none pretty areas, people with just school education. Any way not all are the same here but always the peruvian will take an advantage if they can.

Don't get me wrong i love my country upon this things, don't get scared if you ever wanna visit it but things work totally diferent here.

omm370z 10-14-2012 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am (Post 1960478)
Llama sexual relations. I like this. :iagree:

O.o so you like having sexual realtion with llamas? :bowrofl:

LMBmikeZ 10-14-2012 08:38 AM

:icon18::rofl2:

omm370z - GL with your importing troubles:tup:

onzedge 10-14-2012 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am (Post 1960478)
I like this. :iagree:

:tup:


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