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streetbob 04-30-2013 04:28 PM

uggggggggggggg seems my steering lock failed,steering wheel still moves, car wont start,had codes checked as steering lock fault. cut brown wire ,pulled fuse, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa no luck. now will dealler refuse my recall?

JARblue 04-30-2013 04:34 PM

No... if anything they now have to pay for your tow, too (they would most certainly try to get out of it before the recall). I am confused a little though... you said you cut the brown wire and removed the fuse after it failed? Neither of those solutions work after the failure; they are preemptive solutions. Beat on the sucker a bit and see if you can't get the car to turn on (put back the fuse and reconnect the wire first). Then once the car is on, remove the fuse.

streetbob 04-30-2013 05:29 PM

ya didn,t work .grasping at straws to start it.old and foolish i guess.a bugger to solder the brown

Ryan's Nissan 04-30-2013 05:52 PM

Steering Lock control units - Nissan responds!
 
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Wanted to make sure anyone in this thread also gets a look at this letter I received in the mail today. It's worth a shot even if your vehicle is not an Altima. Keep filing complaints and calling and also try filling out this reimbursement claim form. Link in the picture.

JARblue 04-30-2013 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by streetbob (Post 2293908)
ya didn,t work .grasping at straws to start it.old and foolish i guess.a bugger to solder the brown

I wouldn't waste time to solder it... just connect it back and electrical tape. If you can get the car to ACC (or ON - don't need engine running), pull the fuse. Then it won't matter about the brown wire. If you take to the dealer, they'll fix it regardless.

jaedub 05-01-2013 02:44 AM

Can't I just sue Nissan if it malfunctions and cause an accident?

SouthArk370Z 05-01-2013 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by jaedub (Post 2294610)
Can't I just sue Nissan if it malfunctions and cause an accident?

I suppose you could but the chances of the ESCL/SLU causing an accident are pretty close to zero. Your survivors may be able to sue after you get stranded in the desert or a blizzard and die from exposure. ;)

forza370z 05-01-2013 10:25 AM

Side effects of pulling the fuse
 
I kinda want to start a new thread, but I guess I will just post it here first. Does anyone have had any side effects after pulling the fuse? I've read someone has mentioned the delay of the engine start. And that's what happened to me too after I pulled the fuse. It's not every time, but once in a while it happens. Also, I store my car during the winter. I don't disconnect the battery. It usually last 3 weeks. But the week I pulled steering wheel lock fuse, the battery died COMPLETELY(can't even open the door by push the button) in one week. I kinda doubt after I shut off the car, the computer system keeps sending the signal to the SLU to lock the steering wheel and don't get any response thus consume the battery... But this only happened the first week I pulled the fuse. It could be random. Besides those, I don't have any other issues after puling the fuse. Anyone here has other problems after pulling the fuse?

forza370z 05-01-2013 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by streetbob (Post 2293805)
uggggggggggggg seems my steering lock failed,steering wheel still moves, car wont start,had codes checked as steering lock fault. cut brown wire ,pulled fuse, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa no luck. now will dealler refuse my recall?

Cut the wire or pull the fuse will NOT resolve the problem. They are rather the solutions to prevent the problem to happen in the first place.

JARblue 05-01-2013 11:19 AM

Forza, I definitely experienced the delayed start a few times since pulling it 6 months ago (maybe 3-4 times total). Other than that, zero issues for me. In fact, my ESCL has yet to fail and leave me stranded somewhere :tup:

SouthArk370Z 05-01-2013 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by forza370z (Post 2295098)
... Does anyone have had any side effects after pulling the fuse? I've read someone has mentioned the delay of the engine start. ... Also, I store my car during the winter. I don't disconnect the battery. It usually last 3 weeks. But the week I pulled steering wheel lock fuse, the battery died COMPLETELY(can't even open the door by push the button) in one week. I kinda doubt after I shut off the car, the computer system keeps sending the signal to the SLU to lock the steering wheel and don't get any response thus consume the battery... But this only happened the first week I pulled the fuse. ...

The delay on start does not appear to be caused by disabling the SLU - it also happens to ppl who have not disabled the SLU.

From what I've been able to figure out, the SLU is only polled during startup (and possibly shutdown) so it shouldn't be a drain when the car is off. But I'm not 100% sure about this.
I suspect a bad/weak battery (check the electrolyte level) or a parasitic load (have you added anything, eg, radio, that might be pulling a load when the car is off?).

I pulled my fuse some time back and have had no problems.

forza370z 05-01-2013 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 2295257)
Forza, I definitely experienced the delayed start a few times since pulling it 6 months ago (maybe 3-4 times total). Other than that, zero issues for me. In fact, my ESCL has yet to fail and leave me stranded somewhere :tup:

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 2295301)
The delay on start does not appear to be caused by disabling the SLU - it also happens to ppl who have not disabled the SLU.

From what I've been able to figure out, the SLU is only polled during startup (and possibly shutdown) so it shouldn't be a drain when the car is off. But I'm not 100% sure about this.
I suspect a bad/weak battery (check the electrolyte level) or a parasitic load (have you added anything, eg, radio, that might be pulling a load when the car is off?).

I pulled my fuse some time back and have had no problems.

Yea I only have this delayed start AFTER I pulled fuse. I will put it back on and see if that happens again.

And SouthArk, yes I do have lots of stuff connected to the battery, like capacitor and LoJack... That's why my battery doesn't last long if I don't drive the car. And plus the week I pulled fuse was super cold. So that one time incident could just be random.

VCuomo 05-05-2013 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jaedub (Post 2294610)
Can't I just sue Nissan if it malfunctions and cause an accident?

AFAIK there haven't been any reported SLU failures while the car has been started.

And good luck with that "sue Nissan" thing... :rolleyes:

Wabbyyy 05-05-2013 04:55 PM

My z was one of the z's who had problems with the steering wheel lock. Went to Nissan and got it changed.

Tick64 05-05-2013 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by forza370z (Post 2295098)
I kinda want to start a new thread, but I guess I will just post it here first. Does anyone have had any side effects after pulling the fuse? I've read someone has mentioned the delay of the engine start. And that's what happened to me too after I pulled the fuse. It's not every time, but once in a while it happens. Also, I store my car during the winter. I don't disconnect the battery. It usually last 3 weeks. But the week I pulled steering wheel lock fuse, the battery died COMPLETELY(can't even open the door by push the button) in one week. I kinda doubt after I shut off the car, the computer system keeps sending the signal to the SLU to lock the steering wheel and don't get any response thus consume the battery... But this only happened the first week I pulled the fuse. It could be random. Besides those, I don't have any other issues after puling the fuse. Anyone here has other problems after pulling the fuse?

I haven't pulled the fuse, but I had the battery COMPLETELY die after leaving the car in the garage for 8 days while I was in Jamaica (fun!). I have no idea what killed it (2 year old battery). I thought everything was shut off. Someone on here mentioned that the radio potentially could have drained it. I do have an aftermarket stereo installed. I just wanted to mention this to keep the idea open that it may NOT be related to you pulling the fuse...

forza370z 05-05-2013 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Tick64 (Post 2301613)
I haven't pulled the fuse, but I had the battery COMPLETELY die after leaving the car in the garage for 8 days while I was in Jamaica (fun!). I have no idea what killed it (2 year old battery). I thought everything was shut off. Someone on here mentioned that the radio potentially could have drained it. I do have an aftermarket stereo installed. I just wanted to mention this to keep the idea open that it may NOT be related to you pulling the fuse...

Cool. Thanks for the info Tick64. It might be the cold weather and the aftermarket stereo unit that drained out the battery. That's why I drove the car at least once every 2 weeks during the coldest winter time to charge the battery.

OldGuy 05-05-2013 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by forza370z (Post 2295098)
I kinda want to start a new thread, but I guess I will just post it here first. Does anyone have had any side effects after pulling the fuse? I've read someone has mentioned the delay of the engine start. And that's what happened to me too after I pulled the fuse. It's not every time, but once in a while it happens. Also, I store my car during the winter. I don't disconnect the battery. It usually last 3 weeks. But the week I pulled steering wheel lock fuse, the battery died COMPLETELY(can't even open the door by push the button) in one week. I kinda doubt after I shut off the car, the computer system keeps sending the signal to the SLU to lock the steering wheel and don't get any response thus consume the battery... But this only happened the first week I pulled the fuse. It could be random. Besides those, I don't have any other issues after puling the fuse. Anyone here has other problems after pulling the fuse?

I pulled the fuse on my '09 in October 12 and stored the car from 12/1/12 to 4/3/13 without starting it in between. The four year old battery started right up and continues to work fine. Everything in my car (other than leather and clearbra) is stock.

forza370z 05-05-2013 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by OldGuy (Post 2301774)
I pulled the fuse on my '09 in October 12 and stored the car from 12/1/12 to 4/3/13 without starting it in between. The four year old battery started right up and continues to work fine. Everything in my car (other than leather and clearbra) is stock.

Good to know.:tiphat: So my battery died might have nothing to do with the fuse. Do you have any aftermarket stereo installed?

Fountainhead 05-05-2013 07:57 PM

To find the current draw what you can do is remove the positive lead of your battery and connect an ammeter set to maybe 10A scale -Red lead (of the Amp meter!) to the battery and Black lead (of the Amp meter)! to the positive terminal of the car battery lead, and see if you have any parasitic current drain with all lights off, all door closed, etc.
Because you disconnected battery you'll have to reset the window action but I guess you've already seen that because your battery went dead.
I can't think of any way to find the current draw other than verifying first that there is a parasitic drain that isn't in the spec.
I do not know what the current draw is at completely off but I'm sure it's in the 10's of milliamps.
Once you determine the range of current draw you can move your ammeter scale down from 10A to get more resolution.
You might have a brake light coming on or a dome light left on that drained the battery.
I first cut the SWL brown wire then months later I fixed that connection - in anticipation of taking to dealer and getting the Steering lock replaced, but I chickened out and just pulled the fuse. I've had no battery draining/dead issues, my battery is 4 years old.
I just don't want them messing with my car at the Stealership. I've just heard too many horror stories, I'll avoid the Stealership at all cost unless I can't do anything else. Besides, I would simply unplug the fuse after the new install anyway. I've never had a failure and don't have any out of pocket expense for SWL failing anyway.

KaienZ34 05-05-2013 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by forza370z (Post 2301853)
Good to know.:tiphat: So my battery died might have nothing to do with the fuse. Do you have any aftermarket stereo installed?


From his comment it looks like he is stock, except leather seats and clear bra so stock stereo.

forza370z 05-05-2013 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fountainhead (Post 2301869)
To find the current draw what you can do is remove the positive lead of your battery and connect an ammeter set to maybe 10A scale -Red lead (of the Amp meter!) to the battery and Black lead (of the Amp meter)! to the positive terminal of the car battery lead, and see if you have any parasitic current drain with all lights off, all door closed, etc.
Because you disconnected battery you'll have to reset the window action but I guess you've already seen that because your battery went dead.
I can't think of any way to find the current draw other than verifying first that there is a parasitic drain that isn't in the spec.
I do not know what the current draw is at completely off but I'm sure it's in the 10's of milliamps.
Once you determine the range of current draw you can move your ammeter scale down from 10A to get more resolution.
You might have a brake light coming on or a dome light left on that drained the battery.
I first cut the SWL brown wire then months later I fixed that connection - in anticipation of taking to dealer and getting the Steering lock replaced, but I chickened out and just pulled the fuse. I've had no battery draining/dead issues, my battery is 4 years old.
I just don't want them messing with my car at the Stealership. I've just heard too many horror stories, I'll avoid the Stealership at all cost unless I can't do anything else. Besides, I would simply unplug the fuse after the new install anyway. I've never had a failure and don't have any out of pocket expense for SWL failing anyway.

Thanks for the advise! I will try it out when I get a chance.

forza370z 05-05-2013 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldGuy (Post 2301774)
I pulled the fuse on my '09 in October 12 and stored the car from 12/1/12 to 4/3/13 without starting it in between. The four year old battery started right up and continues to work fine. Everything in my car (other than leather and clearbra) is stock.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KaienZ34 (Post 2301910)
From his comment it looks like he is stock, except leather seats and clear bra so stock stereo.

Haha your right!:shakes head: Never mind OldGuy.

KaienZ34 05-05-2013 08:33 PM

:tup:

streetbob 05-11-2013 05:40 PM

Got towed last week ,they foot the bill.ill be pulling fuse when I get it home on we'd. Thanks for all the info.made it very helpful

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tz3251 04-12-2015 03:22 PM

where is the stering lock fuse located 370 09...
 
Any help w pictures would b much appreciated....

Trips 04-12-2015 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by tz3251 (Post 3166777)
Any help w pictures would b much appreciated....

Here you GO! :hello:

http://www.the370z.com/1741419-post79.html

dkinghl 04-12-2015 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Trips (Post 3166799)

look like the 2012 above has different structure/number of fuse (or may be nissan fix the sterling lock already :rofl2::rofl2::rofl2:). I open that batteries and can not see any similar between my fuse box and these posts.

tz3251 04-12-2015 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Trips (Post 3166799)

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tz3251 04-12-2015 08:27 PM

How do u get the car to acc mode if the steering is lock...when I press the start botton it just say lock...

VKNismo 11-19-2015 01:12 PM

Saw the light came on a few times, got nervous, pulled the fuse about a week ago. :driving:

kenchan 11-19-2015 01:25 PM

not me. still running the RevC with no issue. :D

ColemanLee09 12-29-2015 02:15 PM

Just pulled the fuse on my 09, literally 10 minute job. Thanks!

ColemanLee09 12-29-2015 04:29 PM

Hey after I pulled the fuse, I noticed when I unlock the doors and get into the car the red immobilizer light with the red car and key in the middle cluster is flashing until I start the car. Is this normal and I just didn't notice this before the fuse pull? Thanks.

SouthArk370Z 12-29-2015 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColemanLee09 (Post 3378046)
Hey after I pulled the fuse, I noticed when I unlock the doors and get into the car the red immobilizer light with the red car and key in the middle cluster is flashing until I start the car. Is this normal and I just didn't notice this before the fuse pull? Thanks.

If the car starts, you are OK.

The Owner's Manual should tell you which indicators should be on/off and when.


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