doesnt the stillen underdrive not have a harmonic dampener?

"But for a street-driven car, one that you might want to last a couple of hundred thousand miles, we do not recommend using a pulley without a harmonic dampener"

Tip 11: Crank Pulleys

Ok dude....chill out....take a breather. You're taking this way to seriously. Let's act like grown men here.

I was simply expressing my opinion and reason for picking the Z over the EVO X. I wasn't knocking on EVOs. EVOs/STIs both are great cars as well -- AWD, 4-banger turbo, brembos, etc. The Evo has the S-AYC, and Recaros which is great. They handle really well in all conditions.

The sport 370 on the other hand also comes with huge a$$ brakes as well, stellar lookin 19" forged Rays, here's the biggie....the world's first rev-matching tranny...pure genius. the fact that you never have to take the keys out of your pocket to unlock the doors and start the ignition is awesome. It also has a nice subtle rear spoiler. It's a 'true' sports car -- 2 seater, RWD. It too handles really well.

The Z however has a much nicer upscale interior than the EVO. Again, that's my opinion. And the car over all has a much sexier look appeal to it than the EVO. Once again, my opinion. Also, the EVO X doesn't have a 6MT, which sucks when cruising at high speeds. EVOs don't come standard with HIDs, which is a minus for me....come on, if I'm going to spend around 30K, at least you could give me a decent set of headlights. The only way to get them is by purchasing/installing the SSS package (Sight, Spoiler, Sound). Plus, this is the 21st century....every car over 25K should have HIDs.

The words "better band for the buck" is straight up personal opinion. So get over it.

For my case the best bang/buck is the evo x, I got my fully loaded GSR for 31k 0 percent for 60 plus the four doors is really comes handy at times. If i didn't get that deal i would have bought the 370z.

I totally agree on the evo not having 6 speed, the engine is pretty loud during HWY cruise. But i would rather have the stronger 5 speed because mitsu did put a 6 speed on the ix MR but it was weak and people who put power on their evo were breaking them.

What i hate about the evo though is the interior sucks compare to the 370z, alot of clunking sounds especially wen it's cold i think it's because of the awd, notchy transmission specially 2nd and 3rd, lol its a dude magnet I haven't got a compliment from any females yet I usually get compliment from car guys. Seems like every muscle car, civics and srt4 have it for me revving at me all the time. EVO is also notorious for having a weak clutch, well a stage 2 exedy should take care of that problem also my evo x has a rough idle right now because of the shitty factory tune, i need to visit GST for my tune.

Lol seems like i hate my evo, but everytime i get out of the car there's always a smile in my face:happydance:.

Agreed, I won't even think about a car without hid's...

I don't keep my keys in my pocket anymore since the pushbutton.. found that a d-clip on a belt loop works better... I was always hunting for my keys whenever I stopped the car to make sure that I didn't leave them inside. It did open up room to pocket carry my revolver though.

I won't touch a mitsubishi. I've seen TOOOOOOOooooo many people have issues with them. Hell, show me a 3000gt that is still on it's first engine and transmission, and I'll show you a car that sits in a showroom all day.

its much easier to increase the horsepower on a car that comes turbo charged out of the factory compared to a car that is not. thats where the evo gets its advantage but if someone put in a tt kit on the 370 the evo would be history.

tt kit+370z = bye bye evo

Have you ever driven an Evo? The car does not drive itself. If you had the same amount of power?.... This isn't a "what if" analysis, it's factual. You have to compare the 2 cars as they are. Have you driven your Z on a track? If you have been on the track with either of these cars you would find out real fast the difference between them. The Z's are not outrunning the Evos. In fact the Evos are the fastest cars in time attack right now, period. I am around these cars all day long. I like the Z on many more levels. MUCH nicer car in my opinion. However, better handling than an Evo? Not the case in any way.

Bench racing is fun. If a 370Z had 1001HP, I bet it'd DESTROY the Veyron!

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This thread is starting to sound just like an oil thread.

^^ haha...really. This is supposed to be some guy's journal...hehe. Instead, it turned out to be a topic of serious debate.

Its ok, he's participating.

You kinda have it coming when you make a name like that.

I think I'm changing my screen name to "The Winnebago Killer" :tup:

Bring it on!

http://www.autoenginelube.com/images...winnebago1.jpg

I keed...I keed....:p

I bet if that thing had the same power to weight ratio the 370 has, it'd be a drivers race.

If you added the right mods and had it tuned by "X", it would smoke the 370z because it has bigger displacement. And the wifey could make sammiches in the back while you're doing it!