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armensti 08-06-2009 01:11 AM

to make things a little bit clear when i posted before i was talking about the evo x. it distributes power to any wheel needed to gain traction to make the car handle better. i dont need to explain this to anyone because im sure most of you know this. a 370z does not do that, in fact most of the people turn off the traction control so that their in the control of the car.


about SYNCRO REV.

i learned how to drive stick on my 370z. within 2 weeks i was heel and towing and i was rev matching. i also learned how to dump the clutch and all the little goodies. BUT from the first time i got into the car i simple turned off the S-mode and i havent used it since. WHy? because i dont need the cars computer telling me what to do, i dont need the cars computer controlling each and every single movement that i make with the car. most of the passionate drivers who buy the 370z stick dont even use the syncro rev. the only time i could see myself using that is if im so tired that i cant even move my legs to make my job easier but like i stated before i dont like to use it and thats why i bought a manual car.

the only reason modern AWD cars keep up with the rwd cars is because of the cars computer system. if it was just a basic AWD 100% of the time it wouldnt even be a match for a rwd.

Modern AWD cars = perfect handling for anyone.. crappy driver, professional driver etc...

AWD 100% of the time = under steer, under steer and some more under steer for a basic driver and a great challenge for a professional driver

RWD = hard to drive for a basic driver...... a beast in the hands of a professional driver.

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Originally Posted by gatorfast (Post 139344)
^ better start modding if you want to beat m3's

modding? ive tooken a Porsche carrera s... my cars STOCK

its all about the driver



by the way i just remembered something the evo x doesnt even come in stick lol




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Originally Posted by Ryan@Forged (Post 136451)
Ha ha ;) I'm a bit outnumbered so I have to stand my ground sometimes ;) I have a GTR too if it helps my case (have to own at least 1 Nissan :D )

Ya, a lot of times I have so much going on over here I don't get to get my entire though out. Half my posts are jumbled up thoughts after thinking about a ton of other stuff.

I think a standard AWD system is different, not easier to drive, but that is an entire different discussion that we won't get into right now ;)

yeah and the nissan that you own is still computer controlled lloll

shabarivas 08-06-2009 02:26 AM

the evo X does come in stick ... i used to have one :p

armensti 08-06-2009 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by shabarivas (Post 140036)
the evo X does come in stick ... i used to have one :p

not the M.R.

if i were to drive an evo it has to be the M.R. and its not stick

EVO_Killer 08-06-2009 07:37 AM

Of course the Lancer Evo comes in a manual.....The 5 speed manual is the EVO GSR. Same engine and everthing just no twin clutch.

Ryan@Forged 08-06-2009 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by armensti (Post 139969)
the only reason modern AWD cars keep up with the rwd cars is because of the cars computer system. if it was just a basic AWD 100% of the time it wouldnt even be a match for a rwd.

This sentence alone explains your understanding on this matter. Lets take the Evo 8 (03-04) for example. No computer controlled power distribution, no ACD, no AYC, etc. By your logic it is no match for a 350z (comparable by production year?) or 370z (modern RDW). Would you really like to put that theory of yours to the test? That reasoning couldn't be further from the truth.


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Originally Posted by armensti (Post 139969)
Modern AWD cars = perfect handling for anyone.. crappy driver, professional driver etc...

AWD 100% of the time = under steer, under steer and some more under steer for a basic driver and a great challenge for a professional driver

Once again, false assumption. Where many AWD cars are notorious for understeer, it does not apply to every AWD car. In this case where we have been comparing Evo's I think you would be surprised how little understeer these cars have.


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Originally Posted by armensti (Post 139969)
by the way i just remembered something the evo x doesnt even come in stick lol

Seriously dude? Really?... Please do some homework before you make posts like this.

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Originally Posted by armensti (Post 139969)
yeah and the nissan that you own is still computer controlled lloll

You're right it is, I guess that means it is also inferior than your 370z. Once again, care to put that to the test? It's a 10 year old AWD system, it should be no match for the modern RWD car that you drive.

Ryan@Forged 08-06-2009 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by armensti (Post 140040)
not the M.R.

if i were to drive an evo it has to be the M.R. and its not stick

Why would it have to be the MR?

ct63084 08-06-2009 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan@Forged (Post 140172)
Why would it have to be the MR?

Yeah ditto. Unless you want the leather, sst(six speed,fast shifting,can't drive a stick and good for traffic) and the rims which is the only diff between the MR and the GSR. Most evo tuner and mod freaks prefer the GSR bec of the stronger 5 speed.

bboypuertoroc 08-07-2009 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DuReichstSoGu (Post 139357)
Evo killer?

Maybe with some driving skills you can possibly be a evo killer yet my friend.

Don't be deceived by those family sedans, they are notoriously fast and driven by hormone driven youngster fast coffins they are, evos...

Hormone driven youngsters? :ugh2:

bboypuertoroc 08-07-2009 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by armensti (Post 139969)
Blah blah blah

You have no clue what you're talking about.

I don't know about other Evos, but mine is AWD (permanent 50/50 split)100% of the time.

You can completely disable the traction control in an Evo X as well... ******* thing handles WILD with it off. Don't know what you're doing and you'll sure as **** spin it.

LOL@only wanting an MR.

armensti 08-08-2009 03:19 AM

either way at the end of the day

370z 2 seater rwd much better then a 4 door family sedan tuned up

when it comes to looks its better too so its mostly jealousy comming from evo owners

the evo x was on my shopping list until i heard about the 370z

rwd 2 seater is a better choice in a sports car then a 4 door awd sedan

ill stick to my opinion and you stick to yours.

racerxj17 08-08-2009 04:25 AM

whats a sadan?

MightyBobo 08-08-2009 12:07 PM

Problem with your opinion, Armen, is its based off junk you don't understand.

Don't come to a debate if you don't even understand the vehicles you're debating. Seriously? Evo's are Auto-only, now?
Now that you're knowledge about an Evo's handling has been proven far inferior, you're back peddling right into the, "Well, at least the 370 LOOKS better" angle. So if RWD is superior than AWD, then FWD should be horrible, right? How did a FWD Cobalt kick some Ralliart/WRX ***? Better yet, how did the Cobalt SS/TC do so well in Car and Drivers 2008 Lightning lap? It almost beat every single car that was in the next class ABOVE it! All in the far "inferior" FWD.

The long and short of all this is, there far more that goes into a car than you understand. Its not always about the drive line configuration and nothing but. You barely know how to drive stick and you think you can make claims like yours?

bboypuertoroc 08-08-2009 05:37 PM

^ Good post.

travisjb 08-08-2009 10:58 PM

wow! just noticed this thread... at first I thought it was a journal for a dude investing in his 370z... now i see it is a p'ing match on whether srm sucks and evo vs 370... two arguments that will rage on for eternity! hope that OP is okay with us p'ing on his journal! guess he deserves it some for picking that name!!!

so, back on topic... evo_killer, nice job so far with the mods! what are you planning next??? if you're headed for the track, going to need to work on the brakes

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frost 08-08-2009 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by travisjb (Post 144260)

so, back on topic... evo_killer, nice job so far with the mods! what are you planning next??? if you're headed for the track, going to need to work on the brakes

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How dare you try to bring sensibility and sanity to this thread sir. Kidding, kidding. Good job.


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