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UNKNOWN_370 07-14-2012 05:44 PM

Not tryign to be an azzhole but... Shyt like this wouldn't be happening if we control how many people come into this country and welfare hoes from having babies. These deer are losing their place to live cuz people r fvcking idiots and live extremely selfish lives.
I'm glad ur ok op and I'm really sorry about your ride. But if that deer is not getting eaten? I feel sorry for the deer. They are living beings and deserve to live as well. You have insurance. You're alive. A deer is dead and he's not even going to
feed some families.
Now the forum is ranting on how they hate deer. Another option would have been instead of trying to swerve at 45mph, using those all powerful brakes to stop would have better potentially avoided that situation. Our brakes from 45mph stop our cars in a few negligable feet. Trying to swerve any type of potential sudden accident is the WRONG move. BRAKING is the way to go when moving objects are in front of you. Especially from the broadside. You double your chances by avoiding the impact. Not guaranteed of course. But braking is the better option when compared to the swerve.

But again... more important is that your personal being is safe.

Bucketlist2012 07-14-2012 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 1821580)
Not tryign to be an azzhole but... Shyt like this wouldn't be happening if we control how many people come into this country and welfare hoes from having babies. These deer are losing their place to live cuz people r fvcking idiots and live extremely selfish lives.
I'm glad ur ok op and I'm really sorry about your ride. But if that deer is not getting eaten? I feel sorry for the deer. They are living beings and deserve to live as well. You have insurance. You're alive. A deer is dead and he's not even going to
feed some families.
Now the forum is ranting on how they hate deer. Another option would have been instead of trying to swerve at 45mph, using those all powerful brakes to stop would have better potentially avoided that situation. Our brakes from 45mph stop our cars in a few negligable feet. Trying to swerve any type of potential sudden accident is the WRONG move. BRAKING is the way to go when moving objects are in front of you. Especially from the broadside. You double your chances by avoiding the impact. Not guaranteed of course. But braking is the better option when compared to the swerve.

But again... more important is that your personal being is safe.

I needed a good laugh. :icon14::icon14:

VCuomo 07-14-2012 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmhenderson (Post 1820780)
Oh hey now that makes sense. Sorry, I'm pretty tired and slightly drunk.

Funny, I thought the same thing as you when I first read that post, and I'm not tired or slightly drunk :)

Glad you and your girlfriend are OK and the car is getting fixed quick!

VCuomo 07-14-2012 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 1821580)
Not tryign to be an azzhole but... Shyt like this wouldn't be happening if we control how many people come into this country and welfare hoes from having babies. These deer are losing their place to live cuz people r fvcking idiots and live extremely selfish lives.

I'm glad ur ok op and I'm really sorry about your ride. But if that deer is not getting eaten? I feel sorry for the deer. They are living beings and deserve to live as well. You have insurance. You're alive. A deer is dead and he's not even going to feed some families.

Now the forum is ranting on how they hate deer. Another option would have been instead of trying to swerve at 45mph, using those all powerful brakes to stop would have better potentially avoided that situation. Our brakes from 45mph stop our cars in a few negligable feet. Trying to swerve any type of potential sudden accident is the WRONG move. BRAKING is the way to go when moving objects are in front of you. Especially from the broadside. You double your chances by avoiding the impact. Not guaranteed of course. But braking is the better option when compared to the swerve.

But again... more important is that your personal being is safe.

WTF??? :icon14:

Did you even read this in the OP (emphasis added):

Quote:

The f'ing thing literally ran broadside into me while I was actively trying to avoid it going ~45mph. Seriously, it takes a special kind of ******* animal to time its suicide charge perfectly enough to keep me from seeing it until the last possible second and manage to hit ME and not the other way around.
And what does this have to do with immigration or "welfare hoes" having babies? :facepalm:

UNKNOWN_370 07-14-2012 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VCuomo (Post 1821646)
WTF??? :icon14:

Did you even read this in the OP (emphasis added):



And what does this have to do with immigration or "welfare hoes" having babies? :facepalm:


Lol... let me explain that... I guess that sounds pretty random. What it is that we keep building city after city after city, reducing our natural forests etc, that now these wild animals run through the city through lack of a place to live. This country is just overpopulated due to open, borders, loose immigration policies for european countries and people who opt to keep having babies. This is the back lash of having to build more cities at a high pace andthus reducing a home for our wildlife.
I see all kinds of shyt here in the city. Bobcats, deer, wolves, poisonous snakes, etc... things that we would never see in a city. Its due to all these friggin companies buildin communities and businesses.

I know he was broad sided, but what I'm sayin is in the time it took to swerve, braking would have probably saved him more. I'm not saying it being mean. Just as an advice. I was in pretty much in the same situation back home. But I was a passenger. We braked hard... we still hit the deer. He popped back up though. If we would have swerved? We would have had to hope the deer would brake short and move around. Braking is just usually the better option. In his case he might have hit the deer with his front bumper or missing him completely.

birdmanx1 07-14-2012 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 1821696)
Lol... let me explain that... I guess that sounds pretty random. What it is that we keep building city after city after city, reducing our natural forests etc, that now these wild animals run through the city through lack of a place to live. This country is just overpopulated due to open, borders, loose immigration policies for european countries and people who opt to keep having babies. This is the back lash of having to build more cities at a high pace andthus reducing a home for our wildlife.
I see all kinds of shyt here in the city. Bobcats, deer, wolves, poisonous snakes, etc... things that we would never see in a city. Its due to all these friggin companies buildin communities and businesses.

I know he was broad sided, but what I'm sayin is in the time it took to swerve, braking would have probably saved him more. I'm not saying it being mean. Just as an advice. I was in pretty much in the same situation back home. But I was a passenger. We braked hard... we still hit the deer. He popped back up though. If we would have swerved? We would have had to hope the deer would brake short and move around. Braking is just usually the better option. In his case he might have hit the deer with his front bumper or missing him completely.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lx...mz6qo1_500.gif
:icon17:

dmhenderson 07-14-2012 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 1821580)
Not tryign to be an azzhole but... Shyt like this wouldn't be happening if we control how many people come into this country and welfare hoes from having babies. These deer are losing their place to live cuz people r fvcking idiots and live extremely selfish lives.
I'm glad ur ok op and I'm really sorry about your ride. But if that deer is not getting eaten? I feel sorry for the deer. They are living beings and deserve to live as well. You have insurance. You're alive. A deer is dead and he's not even going to
feed some families.
Now the forum is ranting on how they hate deer. Another option would have been instead of trying to swerve at 45mph, using those all powerful brakes to stop would have better potentially avoided that situation. Our brakes from 45mph stop our cars in a few negligable feet. Trying to swerve any type of potential sudden accident is the WRONG move. BRAKING is the way to go when moving objects are in front of you. Especially from the broadside. You double your chances by avoiding the impact. Not guaranteed of course. But braking is the better option when compared to the swerve.

But again... more important is that your personal being is safe.

What the hell is this?

dmhenderson 07-14-2012 10:06 PM

Of course I used the brakes. I downshifted, braked and turned hard right to attempt to avoid the impact and the deer struck my left front fender dead on. You can pretty clearly see where the point of impact was from the pictures. It drilled my front left fender/wheel well, made a halfassed attempt to jump at the last second (destroying my windshield) then dragged down the side of the car ruining the door panel. ripping off the mirror and dinging the rear quarterpanel

Because the deer literally came charging from off the road to the left (and wasn't already in front of me), I didn't see it until it was on top of me which cost me reaction time. I had maybe a second or two tops to react and I did the best I could to protect the vehicle, myself and my passenger. All things considered, I think I did a pretty good job.

A direct hit to the engine bay or say...having the deer end up in my lap would have been a disaster.

You are correct that you do not swerve to avoid an animal that is in front of you. This deer wasn't standing in the path of the car so that advice doesn't apply here.

dmhenderson 07-14-2012 10:14 PM

Next time I'm hanging out in the projects, I'll pour a lil out for my poisonous snake homies though.

Bucketlist2012 07-14-2012 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmhenderson (Post 1821778)
What the hell is this?

Watch out..he will Pm you like he did me, to wonder what's up...

I wouldn't answer..Why would I...

Glad to see that I wasn't the only one that thought that post was Insane..

You are the Deer Hunter, and the Deer's name was Kamikaze...:tiphat:

NitrousZ34 07-14-2012 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmhenderson (Post 1821787)
Next time I'm hanging out in the projects, I'll pour a lil out for my poisonous snake homies though.

lol thats funny. You might want to watch out for that one bird that was living in that one tree a couple blocks away from your house now. When they cut it down to build a swingset for that one school he found refuge on a telephone wire near your car. All im saying is that you better slam on your brakes when he is ready to take a crap on your car so you can avoid it

UNKNOWN_370 07-15-2012 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmhenderson (Post 1821785)
Of course I used the brakes. I downshifted, braked and turned hard right to attempt to avoid the impact and the deer struck my left front fender dead on. You can pretty clearly see where the point of impact was from the pictures. It drilled my front left fender/wheel well, made a halfassed attempt to jump at the last second (destroying my windshield) then dragged down the side of the car ruining the door panel. ripping off the mirror and dinging the rear quarterpanel

Because the deer literally came charging from off the road to the left (and wasn't already in front of me), I didn't see it until it was on top of me which cost me reaction time. I had maybe a second or two tops to react and I did the best I could to protect the vehicle, myself and my passenger. All things considered, I think I did a pretty good job.

A direct hit to the engine bay or say...having the deer end up in my lap would have been a disaster.

You are correct that you do not swerve to avoid an animal that is in front of you. This deer wasn't standing in the path of the car so that advice doesn't apply here.


I feel you on that... I better understand the situation. But like I said. What's most important is that you're ok. Sometimes we can't avoid an accident no matter what we do? But, in your statement you had said you were traveling at 45mph and tried to swerve. So that's why I gave the advice of trying to brake. But I see you tried to swerve and brake.

Either way... I'm just glad you're safe bruh.

All I was saying in general is we keep building cities because we're allowing our country to overpopulate too quickly. Between unlimited legal immigration, illegal immigration and some of the highest pregnancy rates in the world. We won't have anyplace for our wildlife to live. Eventually, we won't just be hitting deer. We'll be hitting moose, mountain lions, sheep, goat, horses, bears, and all kinds of other shyt. Its getting bad. We are at a point where we are getting all kinds of wild animals walking around inside cities. We never saw stuff like this 30 years ago. And its common now. People are hitting more deer than ever because of the enormous reduction in our forests over the last 30 years. Its just getting outta hand with all this construction. Wildlife has no choice but to travel where we do.

NuffZed 07-15-2012 12:09 PM

I investigate accidents for a living and am a certified accident investigator by all north american standards. Armchair second guessing quarterbacks who werent there aside you did the right thing here man. Avoidance maneuvers and braking was 100% the correct thing to do in these circumstances.

Avoidance maneuvers often lessen the seriousness of an accident but not all of them. With large long legged animals like deer, elk, moose which sadly get hit frequently, hitting them directly with a car often results in them coming through the windshield. This often kills, particularly with the bigger ones, or seriously injures the front seat occupants when the front of the vehicle cuts thier legs out from under them and lands them on your hood.

It is a measure of your skill as a driver that you chose the correct action in the split seconds you had to react. Well done. If you had hit the animal directly while trusting entirely on your brakes to avoid the collision I think the results would have been worse.

birdmanx1 07-15-2012 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NuffZed (Post 1822143)
I investigate accidents for a living and am a certified accident investigator by all north american standards. Armchair second guessing quarterbacks who werent there aside you did the right thing here man. Avoidance maneuvers and braking was 100% the correct thing to do in these circumstances.

Avoidance maneuvers often lessen the seriousness of an accident but not all of them. With large long legged animals like deer, elk, moose which sadly get hit frequently, hitting them directly with a car often results in them coming through the windshield. This often kills, particularly with the bigger ones, or seriously injures the front seat occupants when the front of the vehicle cuts thier legs out from under them and lands them on your hood.

It is a measure of your skill as a driver that you chose the correct action in the split seconds you had to react. Well done. If you had hit the animal directly while trusting entirely on your brakes to avoid the collision I think the results would have been worse.

Great stuff. :tup:

ChrisSlicks 07-15-2012 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmhenderson (Post 1821495)
More fun with the CUBE:

-I filled it up with gas today. It cost $30 to fill the tank. Under half of what it costs to gas the Z.

-Cube owners do not appear to have the same sense of camaraderie that Z owners have. I figured waving didn't cut it, so upong seeing another cube, I rolled down the window, pointed at it and yelled, "CUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUBE". Results were as follows:
-One woman glanced at me nervously, rolled up her window and sped off.
-Another guy yelled "IT'S A SCION" (it was a scion)

They're all cubes to me.

:inoutroflpuke:

Nismo89 07-15-2012 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmhenderson (Post 1821495)
More fun with the CUBE:

-I filled it up with gas today. It cost $30 to fill the tank. Under half of what it costs to gas the Z.

-Cube owners do not appear to have the same sense of camaraderie that Z owners have. I figured waving didn't cut it, so upong seeing another cube, I rolled down the window, pointed at it and yelled, "CUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUBE". Results were as follows:
-One woman glanced at me nervously, rolled up her window and sped off.
-Another guy yelled "IT'S A SCION" (it was a scion)

They're all cubes to me.

:pics: lol:bowrofl::bowrofl:

dmhenderson 07-15-2012 04:31 PM

I'm hanging a sign in the rear window of the Cube tomorrow. I will post pictures of the end product

RiCharlie 07-15-2012 04:42 PM

GI in the PI !!!
 
This aint notin' :tup:

I was in the Philippine Islands and I hit three..yes THREE water buffalo each weighing about 800 to 1000 pounds that were crossing the street in the dark at night in herd.. on an unlit highway. My vision was blinded by an oncoming car..or jeepney..
If one of those things had slid over the hood of my chevy Nova on to the passengers compartment I would not be posting on this thread now..

birdmanx1 07-15-2012 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RiCharlie (Post 1822421)
This aint notin' :tup:

I was in the Philippine Islands and I hit three..yes THREE water buffalo each weighing about 800 to 1000 pounds that were crossing the street in the dark at night in herd.. on an unlit highway. My vision was blinded by an oncoming car..or jeepney..
If one of those things had slid over the hood of my chevy Nova on to the passengers compartment I would not be posting on this thread now..

Richarlie, I was meaning to ask how you managed to hit 3 water buffalo and then you went about being blinded and the Chevy NOVA. I stopped there :icon17: Glad none of the buffalos tipped over your piece of crap NOVA ;)

ZeeingAround 07-15-2012 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 1821580)
Not tryign to be an azzhole but... Shyt like this wouldn't be happening if we control how many people come into this country and welfare hoes from having babies. These deer are losing their place to live cuz people r fvcking idiots and live extremely selfish lives.
I'm glad ur ok op and I'm really sorry about your ride. But if that deer is not getting eaten? I feel sorry for the deer. They are living beings and deserve to live as well. You have insurance. You're alive. A deer is dead and he's not even going to
feed some families.
Now the forum is ranting on how they hate deer. Another option would have been instead of trying to swerve at 45mph, using those all powerful brakes to stop would have better potentially avoided that situation. Our brakes from 45mph stop our cars in a few negligable feet. Trying to swerve any type of potential sudden accident is the WRONG move. BRAKING is the way to go when moving objects are in front of you. Especially from the broadside. You double your chances by avoiding the impact. Not guaranteed of course. But braking is the better option when compared to the swerve.

But again... more important is that your personal being is safe.

I would agree, but if anyone is close behind you, not a good move.

RiCharlie 07-16-2012 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by birdmanx1 (Post 1822467)
Richarlie, I was meaning to ask how you managed to hit 3 water buffalo and then you went about being blinded and the Chevy NOVA. I stopped there :icon17: Glad none of the buffalos tipped over your piece of crap NOVA ;)

Yup! I hit them full force at about 30 mph..completely wrecked the car..killed two water buffalos and broke the legs on a third...I was completely unharmed..Luckily too...a man was riding one of the animals and he was unharmed..
Just another "lucky (idiot) GI in the PI "

dmhenderson 07-16-2012 12:42 PM

Here, I made this for you guys:

http://i.imgur.com/AthxF.jpg

Considering adding "TYPE-R" badges drawn in crayon to the side windows.

dmhenderson 07-16-2012 12:47 PM

Also, check this out:

Nissan Cube needs only a few bolt-ons to hit 1,000+ HP

o_O Don't know whether to laugh or cry.

VCuomo 07-16-2012 01:11 PM

What, no cubic love here??? :)

My dealer gave me a loaner Cube when I had my Z in to get the gas gauge sending units replaced. I winced when the service rep walked me out to the row of loaner cars and they were all Cubes, but I was actually somewhat surprised when I drove it. It handled like crap, but it has reasonable acceleration (at least mine did), plenty of room inside (would easily fit my gig rig), and (especially compared to the Z) had plenty of visiblity all around.

Would I every purchase one? Hell no. But I've seen worse (the Pontiac Aztec comes to mind)...

dmhenderson 07-16-2012 01:18 PM

Mine is a 2011 and the transmission is already slipping. There's a horrible lag between stomping on the gas and when the "vehicle" begins to move forward. I constantly feel like I'm about to tip over, the giant glass windows make the car impossible to cool in the 100+ degree heat and the f'ing thing is painted "poop brown".

Bucketlist2012 07-16-2012 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmhenderson (Post 1823363)
Here, I made this for you guys:

http://i.imgur.com/AthxF.jpg

Considering adding "TYPE-R" badges drawn in crayon to the side windows.

:rofl2::rofl2: A Disclaimer....Priceless...

First...Did you have a Hunting License for Deer ?? You are the Deer Hunter...

Or maybe you were Hunted by the Deer...Did he have a 370Z hunting License ?

So many questions.....

kenchan 07-16-2012 01:41 PM

they gave you a pink cube? lol :icon17: insult to injury

dmhenderson 07-16-2012 01:46 PM

It's brown, that's just the reflection. A few of my coworkers have started calling me "THE DEER HUNTER".

kenchan 07-16-2012 01:47 PM

hahaha! :icon17:

didymus 07-16-2012 03:03 PM

Look on the bright side, if you need some extra cash you could start delivering mail!

dmhenderson 07-16-2012 03:09 PM

I was going to have Mike powder coat my calipers red and stencil on the nismo logo while the car was in the shop. Guy at the shop literally just said to me, "sorry we can't remove the calipers because it would render the car immobile".

Thought about it for a minute and called him back and said that's silly and he basically kept making excuses why he wouldn't do it (even after I offered to pay him for "labor" - just to avoid the inconvenience of adding more downtime).

Disappointed. I am absolutely not mechanically inclined but I'm pretty sure I can remove the calipers, bleed the brake lines and put them back on. Blah.

EazyD 07-16-2012 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmhenderson (Post 1821495)
More fun with the CUBE:

-Cube owners do not appear to have the same sense of camaraderie that Z owners have. I figured waving didn't cut it, so upong seeing another cube, I rolled down the window, pointed at it and yelled, "CUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUBE". Results were as follows:
-One woman glanced at me nervously, rolled up her window and sped off.
-Another guy yelled "IT'S A SCION" (it was a scion)

They're all cubes to me.

Upvote for science! Hilarious paper sign, too.

gaveup 07-16-2012 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmhenderson (Post 1823603)
I was going to have Mike powder coat my calipers red and stencil on the nismo logo while the car was in the shop. Guy at the shop literally just said to me, "sorry we can't remove the calipers because it would render the car immobile".

Thought about it for a minute and called him back and said that's silly and he basically kept making excuses why he wouldn't do it (even after I offered to pay him for "labor" - just to avoid the inconvenience of adding more downtime).

Disappointed. I am absolutely not mechanically inclined but I'm pretty sure I can remove the calipers, bleed the brake lines and put them back on. Blah.

And if they needed to move your car, they wouldn't be able to stop it.

Do you really think they are going to push it around why you get your calipers powdercoated. How does this not make sense man?

blackcherry20 07-16-2012 04:04 PM

:roflpuke2:

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmhenderson (Post 1823443)
Mine is a 2011 and the transmission is already slipping. There's a horrible lag between stomping on the gas and when the "vehicle" begins to move forward. I constantly feel like I'm about to tip over, the giant glass windows make the car impossible to cool in the 100+ degree heat and the f'ing thing is painted "poop brown".

You're killin' me man!:bowrofl:

dmhenderson 07-16-2012 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gaveup (Post 1823666)
And if they needed to move your car, they wouldn't be able to stop it.

Do you really think they are going to push it around why you get your calipers powdercoated. How does this not make sense man?

I dunno. Seems like it wouldn't be that hard to remove them while the car is getting painted anyway. As for stopping it, I would hope they're not pushing it down hills (WHEEEE) or running along behind it making racecar noises but who knows. Fair point.

Not a huge loss, just inconvenient. I'll do it myself when I get it back. Was just trying to avoid the extra 3-5 days of downtime.

dmhenderson 07-17-2012 08:59 AM

http://i.imgur.com/omhgv.jpg
I am the cubelord.

http://i.imgur.com/7uXEB.jpg
Definitely brown. Birds love to poop on it.

kenchan 07-17-2012 09:30 AM

hey, it's brown, not pink! ;)

didymus 07-17-2012 12:45 PM

Sortof a brownish pink

Maybe should eat more fiber

blackcherry20 07-17-2012 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmhenderson (Post 1824403)
http://i.imgur.com/omhgv.jpg
I am the cubelord.

http://i.imgur.com/7uXEB.jpg
Definitely brown. Birds love to poop on it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1824442)
hey, it's brown, not pink! ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by didymus (Post 1824841)
Sortof a brownish pink

Maybe should eat more fiber

I think dmhenderson should get some rep points for putting up with so much torment and fun from his fellow forum members!
Thanks dm-you da bomb!:hello:

BTW-That is one horrible looking ride-ewww...who pays money for that?!

dmhenderson 07-17-2012 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackcherry20 (Post 1824865)
I think dmhenderson should get some rep points for putting up with so much torment and fun from his fellow forum members!
Thanks dm-you da bomb!:hello:

BTW-That is one horrible looking ride-ewww...who pays money for that?!

No need to thank me. I think it's hilarious.


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