2015 Nissan Z may be lighter, leaner

HKYStormFront · 07-11-2012, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Pauly

i get what you guys are saying about the company priority and all, im just upset that now all car makers are switching focus of freggin fuel economy for sportscars across the board, when the whole point is to have ONE car whose soul purpose is fast, light, and agile. global fail.

at the end of the day, cars today are better than they ever have been, all things considered. yes there have been some great cars in the past. especially in the muscle cars and the beginnings of the import scene. still, when you look at the stats, cars cost less in adjusted dollars, have 2-3x (if not more) the longevity, require way less maintenance, get way better gas mileage and are immeasurably safer than in the "good old days". just be thankful you are living through what may go down as the 2nd golden age of performance cars. they continue to get better because of racing and top models but even the "pedestrian" models blow the doors off most exotics of just a couple decades ago. i remember watching a segment on The Car Show where they were comparing boring *** toyota's with 80's supercars and it was just embarrassing. the current Sienna left a deloreon like it was in reverse, tho granted it was never really a "fast" car. a camry v6 destroyed a ferrari 328 (i think? or was it a 308?). having said that, i'd probably take the ferrari over the camry any day of the week, just because it's not as fast doesn't mean that it doesn't make a great noise or isn't a lot of fun to drive

b1adesofcha0s · 07-11-2012, 12:17 PM

I sure hope they don't put a 4 cyl in the next Z. I think a 400 hp and 3000 lb Z with a TT V6 sounds good for the next Z, but I wouldn't expect all of that from Nissan. Most likely what Patrick said, small bump in displacement, DI, and some weight reduction. Though if they really want to make an impact with the next gen Z, they have to seriously step their game up with the new Mustang coming out in 2015 as well.

cossie1600 · 07-11-2012, 12:42 PM

Smaller engine=less mass=better fuel efficiency=better performance all around.

Some of you guys need to get with the program and get your head out of the sand.

Nismo89 · 07-11-2012, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780

I don't think it's really about fuel economy but rather effeciency. There's always going to be a compromise in fuel economy if you want to go fast.... and "Datsun" isn't coming back in the US anytime soon, if ever. They reintroduced the brand to represent the "economy" side akin to Scion with the Nissan brand in the middle. They already found out the hard way that putting a smaller engine (Infiniti G25) to reduce the price doesn't work.

i believe Datsun was brought back in Europe and a select few other countries. the idea of Datsun coming to the U.S. was highly unlikely if ever, like you said lol

LakeShow · 07-11-2012, 12:44 PM

I would love to see a V6TT maybe pushing close to 400hp not a 4-cyl T.

Nismo89 · 07-11-2012, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by LakeShow

I would love to see a V6TT maybe pushing close to 400hp not a 4-cyl T.

b1adesofcha0s · 07-11-2012, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

Smaller engine=less mass=better fuel efficiency=better performance all around.

Some of you guys need to get with the program and get your head out of the sand.

I'd rather have a V8 in there than a V4. LS swap for 2015 Z?

cossie1600 · 07-11-2012, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

I'd rather have a V8 in there than a V4. LS swap for 2015 Z?

Unfortunately the industry/majority doesn't agree with you. Everything is going to lighter, smaller and more efficient.

From the racing front, F1 is going to <2.5L V6 I think in 2013. LeMans had been running the green program for a few years now with the hybrids and diesels. NASCAR went to EFI and unleaded finally. Indycar is doing turbos once again.

On street cars, cars are becoming lighter, faster even though it is using less gas and putting out a smaller carbon footprint. Just look at what BMW is doing with their 328, Ford with their EcoBoost engines, Toyota with their hybrids. They put out the same power as their predecessor without burning all the extra fuel while lowering their weight, resulting in a faster car.

b1adesofcha0s · 07-11-2012, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

Unfortunately the industry/majority doesn't agree with you. Everything is going to lighter, smaller and more efficient.

From the racing front, F1 is going to <2.5L V6 I think in 2013. LeMans had been running the green program for a few years now with the hybrids and diesels. NASCAR went to EFI and unleaded finally. Indycar is doing turbos once again.

On street cars, cars are becoming lighter, faster even though it is using less gas and putting out a smaller carbon footprint. Just look at what BMW is doing with their 328, Ford with their EcoBoost engines, Toyota with their hybrids. They put out the same power as their predecessor without burning all the extra fuel while lowering their weight, resulting in a faster car.

Yeah I know. Honestly, as long as it has the performance, looks, and sound I will be ok with it.

cossie1600 · 07-11-2012, 01:07 PM

It will. Cars aren't getting slower, they are able to do it through different ways. Instead of boring motors out, they are using turbos and shave weight to achieve the same performance goals.

DLSTR · 07-11-2012, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

Unfortunately the industry/majority doesn't agree with you. Everything is going to lighter, smaller and more efficient.

From the racing front, F1 is going to <2.5L V6 I think in 2013. LeMans had been running the green program for a few years now with the hybrids and diesels. NASCAR went to EFI and unleaded finally. Indycar is doing turbos once again.

On street cars, cars are becoming lighter, faster even though it is using less gas and putting out a smaller carbon footprint. Just look at what BMW is doing with their 328, Ford with their EcoBoost engines, Toyota with their hybrids. They put out the same power as their predecessor without burning all the extra fuel while lowering their weight, resulting in a faster car.

Well said! There is a whole new world coming. It will be good as technology has sports cars doing much more with less. Bring it on!!

Keep an open mind. Jay Leno has said the same thing while reviewing the Abarth 500. F1 will have 1.6-litre turbo-charged V6 engines starting in 2014.

If they keep the 6 then thats a win as well!

VDC_OFF · 07-11-2012, 01:38 PM

I think they will do something silmiliar that they did in my wifes Juke. They added a battery powered turbo that you can gauge through an on board computer screen. It shows you the boost and torque which is pretty cool when it is being used. It allows you to choose the type of driving you want to do such as Efficient, Normal or Turbo so you can get the hp numbers you want in Turbo mode but can also get good fuel economy too.

brucelidat · 07-11-2012, 01:50 PM

As long as it is faster, lighter, and looks sexy, I'll be cool with it. However they achieve that is up to them.

HKYStormFront · 07-11-2012, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by VDC_OFF

I think they will do something silmiliar that they did in my wifes Juke. They added a battery powered turbo that you can gauge through an on board computer screen. It shows you the boost and torque which is pretty cool when it is being used. It allows you to choose the type of driving you want to do such as Efficient, Normal or Turbo so you can get the hp numbers you want in Turbo mode but can also get good fuel economy too.

um... wat

VDC_OFF · 07-11-2012, 03:03 PM

Yeah its hooked up to the intake side only and spins off of battery power when you need it. The computer shows your battery power when its being used so you can see when you are running out of battery and need to switch back to eco mode.

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b1adesofcha0s A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: MD Posts: 40,963 Drives: HypeTrain Choo Choo! Rep Power: 141	I sure hope they don't put a 4 cyl in the next Z. I think a 400 hp and 3000 lb Z with a TT V6 sounds good for the next Z, but I wouldn't expect all of that from Nissan. Most likely what Patrick said, small bump in displacement, DI, and some weight reduction. Though if they really want to make an impact with the next gen Z, they have to seriously step their game up with the new Mustang coming out in 2015 as well. __________________ Project: b1adeZmobile (2009 370Z) \| Uprev Tune by AAM Competition \| Berk Exhaust Project: b1adeZmobile 2.0 (2014 C7 Z51) \| Corsa Xtreme Exhaust

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VDC_OFF A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Houston (Pearland) Age: 44 Posts: 1,205 Drives: 2011 370Z M6 Rep Power: 16	I think they will do something silmiliar that they did in my wifes Juke. They added a battery powered turbo that you can gauge through an on board computer screen. It shows you the boost and torque which is pretty cool when it is being used. It allows you to choose the type of driving you want to do such as Efficient, Normal or Turbo so you can get the hp numbers you want in Turbo mode but can also get good fuel economy too. __________________ DRIFTING JOURNAL \| Follow me on Instagram \| Facebook \| Houston Halos

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brucelidat A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: temple city, ca Posts: 2,432 Drives: 2011 370z 7AT GM Sp Rep Power: 30	As long as it is faster, lighter, and looks sexy, I'll be cool with it. However they achieve that is up to them. __________________ Works Emotion CR Ultimate - FI CBE w/ 18" resonators - Ecutek - eibach sways - Quaife - FI LTH w/race cats - kw v3 - spl - Topgunz SC - 488whp 398trq

07-11-2012, 03:03 PM	#45 (permalink)
VDC_OFF A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Houston (Pearland) Age: 44 Posts: 1,205 Drives: 2011 370Z M6 Rep Power: 16	Yeah its hooked up to the intake side only and spins off of battery power when you need it. The computer shows your battery power when its being used so you can see when you are running out of battery and need to switch back to eco mode. __________________ DRIFTING JOURNAL \| Follow me on Instagram \| Facebook \| Houston Halos

07-11-2012, 12:42 PM	#33 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 29	Smaller engine=less mass=better fuel efficiency=better performance all around. Some of you guys need to get with the program and get your head out of the sand.

07-11-2012, 01:07 PM	#40 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 29	It will. Cars aren't getting slower, they are able to do it through different ways. Instead of boring motors out, they are using turbos and shave weight to achieve the same performance goals.

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