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JohnsZ 06-28-2012 12:29 PM

Am I Being Unrealistic?
 
I recently brought my '09 370Z in to a Nissan Dealership to have the oil changed. I'm one of those Z owners that some may say I'm a little paranoid but I never like to let anyone drive my car and I hate it when I need to have it serviced as I know someone has to drive it and they will probably mess around with the seating position. So the guy who meets me at the greeting entrance who is their "driver porter" was a beast of a man, no less than 400 lbs and at least 6' 5" wearing farmer jeans and holding a cigarette between his fingers. Kind of like someone out of a John Steinbeck novel. Anyway, I asked him if he would tell the techs not to adjust the seating position. I never thought that HE would be driving the car into the garage. Anyway, this mountain man gives me an attitidue and says "look at me" and hands me back the ignition "egg" as well as the ticket number he wrote up. i.e. there was no way he was going to be able to drive the car without adjusting the seating position. So I asked him if I could drive it into the garage and he says "I'm not being funny". So not trying to have a confrontation with this guy, I let it go but I complained to an employee at the service desk about him. He said he would let the service mgr know. So right now I am pissed off and thinking of going to another Nissan dealer when my next service comes up. The car is still under warranty. Am I being unrealistic?

10splaya22 06-28-2012 12:33 PM

I would say you are. If you don't like it, find another dealer or do it yourself. There isn't much you can do as I don't think you can enter the service bay for liability reasons.

Also, the guy didn't do anything wrong. It's not like he beat on your car around the block before returning it. You just didn't want anyone to drive because they may change the seating position. It's not very difficult to adjust in 2 min.

I don't go to dealers because I don't like people driving my cars so I do everything myself.

cossie1600 06-28-2012 12:34 PM

What dealership is this?

It is what it is, just let it go and you will feel much easier

TerribleONE 06-28-2012 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 10splaya22 (Post 1796128)
I would say you are. If you don't like it, find another dealer or do it yourself. There isn't much you can do as I don't think you can enter the service bay for liability reasons.

Also, the guy didn't do anything wrong. It's not like he beat on your car around the block before returning it. You just didn't want anyone to drive because they may change the seating position. It's not very difficult to adjust in 2 min.

I don't go to dealers because I don't like people driving my cars so I do everything myself.

this!

tonybui 06-28-2012 12:50 PM

I think you are being an @ss for complaining. If you don't like it, go to another dealer. Seating position can be adjust in under 30 secs *smh*

twinturbonet 06-28-2012 12:52 PM

Yea, this isn't that big a deal. If it is a big deal to you (which is seems like) then do the work yourself.

Let them move the seat man! It WILL be okay! :)

chris410 06-28-2012 12:56 PM

It's a seat adjustment...if the guy was that big can you not blame him? I'd be more concerned about the quality of the work over my seat being moved. I agree that it is annoying but honestly, is it that big of a deal to move your seat back?

slo 06-28-2012 12:57 PM

I can understand not wanting to adjust the seat after someone else moves it. It is your car... I think the dealer could have easily gotten a smaller person to drive it instead. I would have held my ground with the bigger smartass guy.

I wouldn't have complained unless the guy wanted to make an issue out of it also. Plus you could have used the smoking thing, he was just smoking, you don't want him in your car period.

After I have had someone drive my car, I adjust it..... then after driving around a bit, adjust it a little more, I find myself doing this a few times to find that right spot. So yeah, I understand not wanting to do this.

kenchan 06-28-2012 01:01 PM

john- i would rather have the guy adjust so he can see vs keeping your seat position and watch him crash into a pole or lift or garage wall or door way or another building or...

i suggest you mark your seating position in your head. like how many cm forward/aft of the floor mat, how many turns on the knob dials, how many clicks on the recline, etc.

you might even find a better position next time. :)

kenchan 06-28-2012 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 10splaya22 (Post 1796128)

I don't go to dealers because I don't like people driving my cars so I do everything myself.

hey, he would've done that back in the 50's. he was installing 8tracks on his chevy. :tup:

dang, there were 8tracks in the 50's??

280z/300zx 06-28-2012 01:10 PM

Not to offend anyone but I would be paranoid if a 400lb man or woman wanted in my Z. The seats aren't excatly meant to house someone of that size and as such the side bolsters could take damage. Now mind you in a quick 5min drive from the entrane to the garage nothing would probably happen but I could see why OP would be concerned. Not to mention if he has a cigarette in his hand. Who knows if he will put it out before driving. Even if he does that **** lingers and can smell up the car. My step dad is 6'5 and 380lbs. I don't let him anywhere near my Z. Then again, I don't use dealers unless absolutely necesary. Especially for something as simple as an oil change. Do it yourself, it takes less than 30min.

Telephone 06-28-2012 01:23 PM

Paranoid owners change their oil themselves and do their best to avoid the dealer at all costs.
You've got a lot more than seating position to worry about.

MattP725 06-28-2012 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Telephone (Post 1796245)
Paranoid owners change their oil themselves and do their best to avoid the dealer at all costs.
You've got a lot more than seating position to worry about.

This...

I dropped my car off one time for a consumption test and was so paranoid I took about 20 digital pics of the entire exterior and interior.

I don't let anyone drive the car... hell when I had the tires changed I brought them the wheels off the car so they couldn't scratch the lug holes.

And yes you are being unrealistic... infact we all are... we treat a car like it is life's greatest possesion. It's just a car at the end of hte day.

Lug 06-28-2012 01:44 PM

Bring it to Lug's 370Z emporium! We won't move your seat 1 inch! Our trusty staff is willing and able to squeeze into the tiniest of sports cars!



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Volk Z 06-28-2012 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Telephone (Post 1796245)
Paranoid owners change their oil themselves and do their best to avoid the dealer at all costs.
You've got a lot more than seating position to worry about.

Took the words out of my mouth!!

Change the oil yourself... I had to have work done at Nissan with my 350Z and they put a nick in one of my Volk rims and cracked one of my airwalker Japan sideskirts.... Needless to say it was my last visit to Nissan.

They paid me around $1000 for "fixing" the items so no complaints BUT rather then stressing just do it yourself best and ONLY way i do things on my car.

hadokenuh 06-28-2012 01:56 PM

If I was that paranoid, I would just leave the dealership and go to another one right way. Rather not let them work on the car and have to keep thinking about it later.

JohnsZ 06-28-2012 02:04 PM

"Well.....I guess the people have spoken. I'll be going back to NY now" (a little Seinfeld humor there...couldn't help myself). So far the majority of you say I'm being unrealistic, a couple of you are as OCD as I am, and one guy who has no sympathy calls me an @ss. I'm not feeling the love my brothers! So here's my delimma, as Ken can probably figure out, no way am I changing my own oil let alone do any self service on it so where do I go?

370SteeZ 06-28-2012 02:09 PM

Are you afraid that if they adjust your seat, you'll never be able to have it back at the position and you'll be driving stick like a rookie? Lol

JohnsZ 06-28-2012 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1796182)
hey, he would've done that back in the 50's. he was installing 8tracks on his chevy. :tup:

dang, there were 8tracks in the 50's??

Don't be silly Ken...it was in the '60s that I put the 8 Track in my '55 Chevy. It was in the '50s when I needed to replace the running boards on my '40 Nash. Man that car ran great! Ahhhhh, the good ole days! :tiphat:

kenchan 06-28-2012 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnsZ (Post 1796359)
Don't be silly Ken...it was in the '60s that I put the 8 Track in my '55 Chevy. It was in the '50s when I needed to replace the running boards on my '40 Nash. Man that car ran great! Ahhhhh, the good ole days! :tiphat:

oh okay, just checkin' :tup:

JohnsZ 06-28-2012 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1796361)
oh okay, just checkin' :tup:

:tiphat:

JohnsZ 06-28-2012 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 370SteeZ (Post 1796355)
Are you afraid that if they adjust your seat, you'll never be able to have it back at the position and you'll be driving stick like a rookie? Lol

Yes and No!

Pelican170 06-28-2012 02:32 PM

yea thats a little nutty. it takes 2 seconds to fix your seat... god forbid if they move the mirrors :eekdance:

JohnsZ 06-28-2012 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Pelican170 (Post 1796393)
yea thats a little nutty. it takes 2 seconds to fix your seat... god forbid if they move the mirrors :eekdance:

And you are my fellow statesman....shame!

Volk Z 06-28-2012 02:39 PM

When you go to Nissan you could always ask for the GTR mechanic to do all your changes and do it on the GTR lift as well which accomodates for a lower car....

At least this way you are getting someone that has to deal with people that own 100K dollar Nissans....

Otherwise jack the car up, hit the drain bolt change the oil filter put drain bolt back in put recommended oil type and amount in put cap on lower car down and start her up :)
--- Thats the cliff note version with no commas and extreme fragments in the sentence. haha

kenchan 06-28-2012 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnsZ (Post 1796404)
And you are my fellow statesman....shame!

john- you know about the ignore list? :tup: it's in your UserCP and you can add people you dont want to see posts/PM's from. :icon17:



hello john? j... john? :confused: :rofl2:

JohnsZ 06-28-2012 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Volk Z (Post 1796407)
When you go to Nissan you could always ask for the GTR mechanic to do all your changes and do it on the GTR lift as well which accomodates for a lower car....

At least this way you are getting someone that has to deal with people that own 100K dollar Nissans....

Otherwise jack the car up, hit the drain bolt change the oil filter put drain bolt back in put recommended oil type and amount in put cap on lower car down and start her up :)
--- Thats the cliff note version with no commas and extreme fragments in the sentence. haha

Now THAT'S an intelligent response....at least the first part :tup:

Volk Z 06-28-2012 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnsZ (Post 1796421)
Now THAT'S an intelligent response....at least the first part :tup:

Thanks.... I guess

I had to throw in how easy it really is to change your own oil and rattling it off was the only way that seemed appropriate.


Hope all works out for you John, i know most of the GTR mechanics i have met wont be a 400 pound man smoking a cigarette... yikes

JohnsZ 06-28-2012 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1796413)
john- you know about the ignore list? :tup: it's in your UserCP and you can add people you dont want to see posts/PM's from. :icon17:



hello john? j... john? :confused: :rofl2:

I'll tell ya Ken...I'm just not feeling it today! I'm kinda sorry I brought up the whole issue to tell ya the truth! :facepalm:

kenchan 06-28-2012 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnsZ (Post 1796435)
I'll tell ya Ken...I'm just not feeling it today! I'm kinda sorry I brought up the whole issue to tell ya the truth! :facepalm:

no biggie. i use to hate it when my wife changed the seat, mirror positions on my car so i can relate. :tup: i only own MT cars now and she can't drive MT, so problem solved. :p

JohnsZ 06-28-2012 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Volk Z (Post 1796433)
Thanks.... I guess

I had to throw in how easy it really is to change your own oil and rattling it off was the only way that seemed appropriate.


Hope all works out for you John, i know most of the GTR mechanics i have met wont be a 400 pound man smoking a cigarette... yikes

Thanks Volk....now THAT'S what I like to hear! I'm feeling better already :)

Volk Z 06-28-2012 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnsZ (Post 1796444)
Thanks Volk....now THAT'S what I like to hear! I'm feeling better already :)

If you were closer I would spin over and show you how to change it then you wouldnt have to stress over all the dealer crap.... BUT i think the GTR tech will be your safest bet. :)

Goodluck with everything!

JohnsZ 06-28-2012 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Volk Z (Post 1796482)
If you were closer I would spin over and show you how to change it then you wouldnt have to stress over all the dealer crap.... BUT i think the GTR tech will be your safest bet. :)

Goodluck with everything!


Thanks :tup:

Apoc370z 06-28-2012 03:11 PM

I can understand your concern cause i am paranoid at times as well. Not so much about the weight of the techs but how they handle my car. Things like if they are using the mounting points correctly especially when i have after market side skirts that are lower than stock.

Another thing that bugs me is when the techs do not put a sheet of paper (dont know what the proper term is) on the seat when they they are wearing their filty work uniforms.

Will i be annoyed? Yes. Will i complain? No. Luckily for me my friend works at the dealership i go to so i can always make a request to have him work on it.

Not everyone have the skill or experience to change the oil themselves, eventhough it is not hard to do so. I go to the dealer cause its only 10 mins away and they only charge about 10 bucks for the service since i bring my own oil and filter. Not to mention i am lazy :P

Oh another thing that irks me is when the guy on the counter tells me their ester oil is better and it will void my warrently if i use other brand of oil

bigdog1250 06-28-2012 03:24 PM

Are the 10-30 seconds to readjust your seat back that big of deal?

As long as they take care of the car, which I'm sure they will, who cares?

370Z Purist 06-28-2012 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Apoc370z (Post 1796516)
I can understand your concern cause i am paranoid at times as well. Not so much about the weight of the techs but how they handle my car. Things like if they are using the mounting points correctly especially when i have after market side skirts that are lower than stock.

Another thing that bugs me is when the techs do not put a sheet of paper (dont know what the proper term is) on the seat when they they are wearing their filty work uniforms.

Will i be annoyed? Yes. Will i complain? No. Luckily for me my friend works at the dealership i go to so i can always make a request to have him work on it.

Not everyone have the skill or experience to change the oil themselves, eventhough it is not hard to do so. I go to the dealer cause its only 10 mins away and they only charge about 10 bucks for the service since i bring my own oil and filter. Not to mention i am lazy :P

Oh another thing that irks me is when the guy on the counter tells me their ester oil is better and it will void my warrently if i use other brand of oil

hahaha that is a load of ****, void your warranty... jeez, some stealerships just can't stop.

kenchan 06-28-2012 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by bigdog1250 (Post 1796544)
Are the 10-30 seconds to readjust your seat back that big of deal?

As long as they take care of the car, which I'm sure they will, who cares?

cigarette smell and 400lbs butt crack grease:icon23: marks on seats... yah, they will definitely take care of it... :ugh2: image wat they will do to the car where one can't see.....:wtf2:

Apoc370z 06-28-2012 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Z Purist (Post 1796549)
hahaha that is a load of ****, void your warranty... jeez, some stealerships just can't stop.

I know, i usually just keep quiet to avoid any conflict :)

Mt Tam I am 06-28-2012 03:42 PM

I hate others driving my car as well but, tough. If somebody is working on my car they need to drive it to see if it cured. Not on an oil change except in and out of the bay.

A cigarette wielding 400 pound fellow is where I would leave. Smoking is unacceptable in my vehicile.

JohnsZ 06-28-2012 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1796562)
cigarette smell and 400lbs butt crack grease:icon23: marks on seats... yah, they will definitely take care of it... :ugh2: image wat they will do to the car where one can't see.....:wtf2:

Exactly....:bowrofl:


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