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henryy370z 06-21-2012 10:23 AM

car radar?
 
any ideas i need one for speeding lol

PDiddy 06-21-2012 10:26 AM

Passport!

DEpointfive0 06-21-2012 10:27 AM

Passport 90500iX
Don't trust me... Call a store that sells BOTH the Passport AND Valentine One, see what they say

By the way, no false alarms with the 9500iX...

onzedge 06-21-2012 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by PDiddy (Post 1783343)
Passport!

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 1783346)
Passport 90500iX
Don't trust me... Call a store that sells BOTH the Passport AND Valentine One, see what they say

By the way, no false alarms with the 9500iX...

:iagree: The 9500ix is top-notch.

brucelidat 06-21-2012 11:20 AM

Does the 9500 tell you which direction the radar is coming form like the Valentine 1?

onzedge 06-21-2012 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat (Post 1783474)
Does the 9500 tell you which direction the radar is coming form like the Valentine 1?

No.

NYBladeZ 06-21-2012 11:26 AM

V1 hasn't done me wrong yet, however some will tell you that it is "old" tech. Thing is its been so good for so long there is no reason to vastly overhaul it, the passport is good too.

bjblackout 06-21-2012 11:29 AM

I have the 9500 and it is flawless especially with updates monthly!!

Highway 06-21-2012 11:38 AM

I back the V1. Love the fact that I know the direction and how many signals are hitting. It saved me from a ticket just last week coming back from Florida. Just passed a cop who had someone pulled over and the V1 said there was another signal just ahead and it was another cop. Usually, I would speed up once I pass the first one.

I don't think you can go wrong either way - Passport or V1.

kenchan 06-21-2012 11:56 AM

V1

PapoZalsa 06-21-2012 12:01 PM

Not such thing in the Republic of Virginia :mad:

bigdog1250 06-21-2012 12:05 PM

The 9500 is great and so is the Beltronics RX65. It has almost as good range as the 9500 (2+ miles, I feel any further becomes pointless or even harmful) but for quite a bit less money. It only lacks the GPS feature... which while nice, isn't really necessary.

I can confirm the range on the RX...

Also, check out Radar Roy reviews. He'll tell you everything you want to know.

techumper 06-21-2012 03:42 PM

Passport 90500iX is the way to go, just saved me this past weekend. well worth it.

onzedge 06-21-2012 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by techumper (Post 1784090)
Passport 90500iX is the way to go, just saved me this past weekend. well worth it.

:iagree: Mine saves me regularly.

Pelican170 06-21-2012 03:43 PM

I have the Escort Redline and its been great, no complaints here... Saved me a few times so far.

onzedge 06-21-2012 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Pelican170 (Post 1784095)
I have the Escort Redline and its been great, no complaints here... Saved me a few times so far.

That's a nice unit too.

sungear 06-21-2012 06:04 PM

V1 w/ BlendMount

RiCharlie 06-21-2012 07:05 PM

I have a Escort Redline but now the police are using on-off systems and I am not sure how much protection that gives..maybe it actually gives a false sense of security..

Got hit with a laser once..but I was not speeding..

Telephone 06-21-2012 07:09 PM

Airplane got me on Memorial Day. Radioed to the cop below who just waited for me. SOL

Liquid_G 06-21-2012 07:17 PM

Save your money.... If its a laser you are done before the detector even goes off.. Ask me how I know...

btw wanna buy my Bel RX65? lol

MacLean 06-21-2012 08:06 PM

If you have the money you can get a laser jammer, but yor looking at $$$$.

pokeyl 06-21-2012 08:16 PM

Whistler Group - Product Catalog

I love this one.

EazyD 06-22-2012 12:24 AM

I got a V1 in December. It's paid for itself so far. Directional arrows are a pleasant feature that I haven't had before.
I also got an accessory that auto-mutes the Valentine1 when I travel below a set MPH speed. (right now, it's under 40mph). The same accessory lets you use your OBD-II port for power.

Vbp6US 06-22-2012 12:39 AM

I have an RX65 and it's saved me a few times. Range, probably ~1.5 miles. Just drove to Vegas recently and I was hoping I'd get some hits from a long distance on the long flat stretches but there were no cops. :/ I used a rental for the Vegas trip btw. Next time I'm driving the Z though.

Chteelers 06-22-2012 08:06 AM

Best advice I've read: A radar detector is only as good as you know how to use it. You'd be fine with either V1 or Passport. The differences are merely convenience features.

That said, here's what I found in comparing the two.
V1: Directional arrows, advertises longer X-range.
9500ix: GPS caching.

I recently got a 9500ix after several years with a 8500, and absolutely love it. The 8500 was great, the 9500ix is just even better.
I've been in cars with V1, and can't say the arrows are all that useful. Only Front & Back warnings are important, since no cop will be right beside you. And after some experience with my Passports, I can tell by the way the warnings chime whether radar is in front or behind. Radar Detectors are just like metal detectors, so the speed of the chirps and how they change over time are quickly learned. Also, the longer X band of the V1 isn't useful cause no cops use X anymore, just shopping mall doors, so more X just means more false alarms.

The killer feature of the 9500ix is the GPS caching. This feature dramatically cuts down on false alerts, which means you pay more attention to the real alerts and the detector isn't going off all the time. You can manually cache a false alert (say, a shopping mall you pass every day) or the 9500ix caches a false automatically if you pass the same false 3 times. The result is that after a few weeks, the detector is silent about 95% of the time. Where my 8500 used to go off several times in a commute, requiring manual muting, the 9500ix is silent. In fact, I hardwired my mute button to the console, making it easier to mute the 8500. But with the 9500ix it's almost not necessary. In addition to reduced false alerts, the 9500ix auto-dims the volume after 3 seconds. So it grabs your attention, then dims to a less-intrusive volume, allowing you to audibly monitor the potential threat without yelling at you the whole time, or muting it altogether.

In summary though, any good detector will pay for itself if you learn to use it. It's only a tool, not some magic cop-detector shield, so it's really only as good as the person using it. The features are more for convenience than performance.

Pelican170 06-22-2012 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by RiCharlie (Post 1784477)
I have a Escort Redline but now the police are using on-off systems and I am not sure how much protection that gives..maybe it actually gives a false sense of security..

Got hit with a laser once..but I was not speeding..

Im not familiar with the "on-off systems" but if its a problem wouldnt it affect all Radar Detectors?

2011 Nismo#91 06-22-2012 08:49 AM

Here in NY/NJ area the cops all use the instant on/off and occasional laser. Unless the cop is being stupid and constantly turning on and off you won't know till its too late or he wasn't aiming at your car so it wouldn't have made a difference.

MacCool 06-22-2012 09:00 AM

"Instant On" police radar has been a problem for many years. Defeating it falls under the category of knowing how to use a radar detector. Cops have been triggering these things for more than a decade. No defense against that on a long open stretch at night. You gotta hope they fire at someone close enough in front of you that you can pick up the signal before you're in practical range.

kenchan 06-22-2012 09:03 AM

did V1 ever update their firmware not to trigger the laser detection when passing infiniti suv's especially FX35/45's with their cruise proximity sensor turned on? :confused:

that is like the only flaw i noticed on my V1's. i run 2 units and both trigger laser detection when passing by face to face with those trucks.

Bonzo 06-22-2012 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1785223)
did V1 ever update their firmware not to trigger the laser detection when passing infiniti suv's especially FX35/45's with their cruise proximity sensor turned on? :confused:

that is like the only flaw i noticed on my V1's. i run 2 units and both trigger laser detection when passing by face to face with those trucks.

I agree, the only true flaw with a V1. Also happens with certain GM's like the Bravada and Envoy. Other than that it's practically perfect. That's the reason they don't go messing with it. But they should fix this for sure.

People who are still discussing range these days are out of touch. The V1 set at it's lowest setting (the small L) is plenty, and removes most of the false alarms. I never ever change those settings. You don't need 2 miles of range, that's ridiculous.

I'm sure the Passport is great too in terms of performance, no doubting that. I have 3 friends who have it an love it. I think the GPS thing is most useful for camera guns like they have in California, but we don't have those in Ohio (yet). I for one just don't like "ergonomics" of it. Shape, buttons, window mount, volume, mute....etc etc, it is a total pain in comparison. I find almost everything about the ergonomics backwards, and it's loaded with features that are mostly useless.

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Save your money.... If its a laser you are done before the detector even goes off.. Ask me how I know...
This is absolutely positively NOT true. You might have gotten busted, but you don't know how to use your radar detector to keep from getting busted. I get lasered all the time here in Ohio and I have only gotten busted once by it. My V1 just saved me twice last week from laser, once on I-75 and the other locally by my house. Laser is NOT the end of all of detectors.

Now airplane patrol is another story. :mad:

2011 Nismo#91 06-22-2012 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonzo (Post 1785596)

This is absolutely positively NOT true. You might have gotten busted, but you don't know how to use your radar detector to keep from getting busted. I get lasered all the time here in Ohio and I have only gotten busted once by it. My V1 just saved me twice last week from laser, once on I-75 and the other locally by my house. Laser is NOT the end of all of detectors.

LADAR (LAser Detection And Ranging) calculates a vehicle's speed in milliseconds, just because you detected a laser signal does not mean the laser was pointed at you or the officer wanted to chase you but can't read your speed in time.

Most laser detection occurs from reflections off another vehicle in your line of sight that the officer is targeting so he doesn't care what speed you were going since you were not the target making the detection worthless.

If the LADAR is being used right (waiting 30-60sec between uses) and you are the target you will never know until it is too late because the chances of picking up a line of sight reflection over a mile away is slim.

Same issue with instant on/off Radar guns, but it is nearly impossible for a radar run to function properly if there are more then 2 cars near you. Its a system limitation. Hence why they use Lasers more often in high density areas.

LikWid696 06-22-2012 01:10 PM

If I am on the highway and a cop is using instant on/off radar then I don't think it is ridiculous at all for a radar detector to alert over 2 miles away. I would take 10 miles if given the possibility. I will get a quick blip on my detector and know to slow down for the possibility of a cop miles ahead using instant on.

2011 Nismo#91 06-22-2012 01:39 PM

Yeah that would work if its a straight 10mile stretch, unfortunately for me it's rare to find a straight shot more then 2 miles long in my area. And even then no cop would be shooting down that line. they are always in corners and such.

Pelican170 06-22-2012 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 2011 Nismo#91 (Post 1785171)
Here in NY/NJ area the cops all use the instant on/off and occasional laser. Unless the cop is being stupid and constantly turning on and off you won't know till its too late or he wasn't aiming at your car so it wouldn't have made a difference.

Gotcha. Im in CT so I would assume they do the same thing, which may explain why sometimes mine goes full alert out of nowhere and then stops??

Bonzo 06-22-2012 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 2011 Nismo#91 (Post 1785780)
LADAR (LAser Detection And Ranging) calculates a vehicle's speed in milliseconds, just because you detected a laser signal does not mean the laser was pointed at you or the officer wanted to chase you but can't read your speed in time.

Most laser detection occurs from reflections off another vehicle in your line of sight that the officer is targeting so he doesn't care what speed you were going since you were not the target making the detection worthless.

If the LADAR is being used right (waiting 30-60sec between uses) and you are the target you will never know until it is too late because the chances of picking up a line of sight reflection over a mile away is slim.

Same issue with instant on/off Radar guns, but it is nearly impossible for a radar run to function properly if there are more then 2 cars near you. Its a system limitation. Hence why they use Lasers more often in high density areas.

Listen, I don't really need a lesson on how these work, but thanks for informing those who don't know. I understand how it works and reflections etc. I've been around the block a few times so to speak. So we're good. :cool:

What I get tired of is people saying a laser is invincible. It's simply not true. Period. And people who say that are just being ignorant.

The 2 times I mentioned last week above; they were me and only me. I was the only car in the area by a long shot, both times, no reflections, just me. I was easily speeding, probably around 85 in a 65 on the highway, and 45-50 in a 35 by my house. I got drilled by lasers both times and guess what they did. Nothing. The cops never even lowered their guns. It was not because I wasn't going fast enough; it's what I did after the laser hit me that made the difference.

Now I'm also not saying that a laser can't get you either. For sure, it can; it's a good Police tool for sure. But I'm also saying that it's not instant death like so many ignorant people say. I don't keep records of every hit, but I've had a V1 since 1997. That's about 15 years give or take. I'll bet in in those 15 years I've been lasered at least, minimally 1 once a month. That's minimally, and very conservatively saying I've been lasered about 200 times. (I'd actually guess much more). And I'm not talking about 5 mph over either; I speed. In all those hits I've only gotten a ticket once from it. ONCE. In all those years of blatant speeding I've gotten 2 tickets now from planes, 1 from laser before I knew what to do, 1 WARNING only from a laser after I knew what to do, 2 from instant on, and 4 when I was driving a car without a detector present. Those numbers speak volumes to me about the importance of the detector tool.

It's a tool. It isn't perfect. But it's easily worth every penny of the $400 - $500 it costs. I don't leave home without it.

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since you were not the target making the detection worthless.
Another big wrong here, and another thing people who are against detectors always say. But it was totally worth it. At least I know that they were even running radar, which much of the time they are not, and at least I know what kind of gun they were using. You, without a detector, would have no clue. You're going to be nervous until you get out of site whether they tagged you or not, because you have no clue if they were even running radar. And if they pull out behind you, you are going to start sweating regardless. Me? Much of the time I know that they weren't even running radar, so I have no worries. If they pull out behind me; again no worries. Now if they are running radar, I know what kind, and I know they had the chance to tag me, and if I pass and nothing, then I know instantly they aren't after me. If they do pull out, then I can just say bam, they got me. I can jump the entire nervous stage and go straight to "oh well."

Having a radar detector is not only about the times they are running radar, it's also much about the times they aren't.

Bonzo 06-22-2012 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by LikWid696 (Post 1785809)
If I am on the highway and a cop is using instant on/off radar then I don't think it is ridiculous at all for a radar detector to alert over 2 miles away. I would take 10 miles if given the possibility. I will get a quick blip on my detector and know to slow down for the possibility of a cop miles ahead using instant on.

Well, maybe for you. But little blips don't make me slow down. :eekdance:

I think this 2 mile thing applies in certain situations maybe, but it greatly depends on where you live, traffic, and the conditions around you. Most of the the time less than 1 mile is plenty. Detectors today actually detect in the 5's and 6's of miles, and THAT is totally unnecessary. I would never use a detection distance difference of 6 miles vs 5 miles as a factor to determine which detector to buy. 6 miles to 1 mile, yes.

It doesn't take 10 seconds to slow down from a radar bleep or laser blast, it takes about 1 or 2 seconds, tops. But being diligent is your best defense. A detector is only a tool that helps; it's not a cure. All the detectors in the world aren't going to do a thing if you aren't paying attention in the first place.

Diligence in paying attention to what you are doing and what is happening all around you are good basic driving practices. As an added bonus, they also help you from getting tickets. :tup:

2011 Nismo#91 06-22-2012 02:30 PM

For me it's no difference having a detector or not. The result is the same, if a see the cop I slow down even if the detector picks nothing up. If I hear it go off I still slow down even though at that point if I was the intended target it's too late. Best of all I still don't really get speeding tickets anymore, <3 orange ez-pass.

kenchan 06-22-2012 02:32 PM

dont you hate slowing down for a cop car only to see it's a wooden replica inside? :icon17:

RiCharlie 06-22-2012 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonzo (Post 1785987)
I got drilled by lasers both times and guess what they did. Nothing. The cops never even lowered their guns. It was not because I wasn't going fast enough; it's what I did after the laser hit me that made the difference.

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So what did you do after??

RiCharlie 06-22-2012 03:49 PM

One other question for anyone...can those laser pointers the kids have set a laser detector off just as if it were a police trap?


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