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SailFree 06-14-2012 01:03 PM
I don't know but I've been told...
Navy wings are made of gold.
--From Officer and a Gentleman, greatest movie of all time.

I don't know but I've been told by a Dent Doctor repairman that you cannot pull out or press out dents in aluminum.

Red__Zed 06-14-2012 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by supunna_picta (Post 1771740)
PDR is the way to go but get opinions on reputable shops first. Generally they try to get behind the dent and massage it out so access to the dent is the time consuming part and where you want a reputable shop so they put body panels, trim and interior components back together they way they should go. The majority of the cost there is time, despite the tons of special tools they have to reach up through narrow spaces to get behind a dent.

For those places they can't get behind the dent they use a hot glue method that works really well - essentially they use various sized disks that they glue to the dent and they slid a spring loaded puller over the disk and 'pop' the disk off the car, which pulls the dent. Then they massage the extrusion (extremely small) down flush. That method takes about 1 minute per dent but is not usable if the dent is 'sharp' and might cause the paint to come off.

The tech did mention that aluminum was a lot harder to work with.

I had an MR2 Spyder with significant hail damage to every body panel (probably at least 50 dents) and the end cost was about $2500.

GL - sorry to hear about it.
Good tips.


Unk, sorry to hear. Hail is a real downer.

SailFree 06-14-2012 01:25 PM
Much sympathy. Had identical thing happen to brand-new Millennia back around 1993 or so.

Montez 06-14-2012 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 1771164)
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You I'm in the GP-arlington-mansfield area and storms always run really close to me but just miss me... go figure. This time around I wasn't so fortunate. But at least my dents aren't on the creases and the dents are pretty smooth. I'm hoping they all pop out???

It hailed golfballs on my 08/altima once and it didn't get a nick. When you have fun transportation vs ur baby/project car. Expect all bad things to hit it. When I saw those 2 gencoupes smash up and I barely missed it... I knew my car would be blemished soon, somehow some way.

MURPHY'S LAW
Man I feel for you, I could see those storms form to the Northwest and take that Southwest pattern on my way home yesterday. My co workers house in G/P took a beating.......She needs a new roof and several windows.

UNKNOWN_370 06-14-2012 05:18 PM
Thanks again guys for all the extra support.:tiphat: you guys are great.

So I went to my dealer because I know they have a really good PDR guy who fixes there lot vehicles. They are dependent on him to get cars back to normal without reporting hail damage. So I trust the guy... he said for all 11 dents it will be around $180. He says 9 look like a positive for them disappearing. 2 of them, he won't know till he tries. I have an appt. Tuesday. They also informed me of a "Blue" 2012 Z they have. Lol. They still remember the hell I put them through to get me a blue Z. Its a thought crossing my mind.

UNKNOWN_370 06-14-2012 05:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by supunna_picta (Post 1771740)
PDR is the way to go but get opinions on reputable shops first. Generally they try to get behind the dent and massage it out so access to the dent is the time consuming part and where you want a reputable shop so they put body panels, trim and interior components back together they way they should go. The majority of the cost there is time, despite the tons of special tools they have to reach up through narrow spaces to get behind a dent.

For those places they can't get behind the dent they use a hot glue method that works really well - essentially they use various sized disks that they glue to the dent and they slid a spring loaded puller over the disk and 'pop' the disk off the car, which pulls the dent. Then they massage the extrusion (extremely small) down flush. That method takes about 1 minute per dent but is not usable if the dent is 'sharp' and might cause the paint to come off.

The tech did mention that aluminum was a lot harder to work with.

I had an MR2 Spyder with significant hail damage to every body panel (probably at least 50 dents) and the end cost was about $2500.

GL - sorry to hear about it.
Thanks for the detail. I have a much better understanding of all this now. +rep
I have 11 and they told me my car looks like its an easy fix except for two. But now I'm hearing aluminum is hard to fix??? Well I will take it day by day. Let's see how it turns out? T

RiCharlie 06-14-2012 07:13 PM
Sorry about the damage...I saw on the news Texas got blasted with large hail..

Thechidz 06-14-2012 08:49 PM
I just saw the story of the huge hail storm in texas on the news before reading this thread :(

would the insurance company total the vehicle with this kind of dent damage?

MattP725 06-14-2012 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 1772316)
Thanks again guys for all the extra support.:tiphat: you guys are great.

So I went to my dealer because I know they have a really good PDR guy who fixes there lot vehicles. They are dependent on him to get cars back to normal without reporting hail damage. So I trust the guy... he said for all 11 dents it will be around $180. He says 9 look like a positive for them disappearing. 2 of them, he won't know till he tries. I have an appt. Tuesday. They also informed me of a "Blue" 2012 Z they have. Lol. They still remember the hell I put them through to get me a blue Z. Its a thought crossing my mind.

Your lucky you got a quick appointment with such widespread damage down there... I figured you'd be waiting for months.

chrischhorn 06-15-2012 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by MattP725 (Post 1772571)
Your lucky you got a quick appointment with such widespread damage down there... I figured you'd be waiting for months.
Service King was on the news yesterday because of doin over 300 quotes on vehicle repairs alone. They are scheduled for 500+ today at a SINGLE location.:ughdance:

FairladyZ 06-15-2012 03:43 AM
ive seen paintless dent removers take care of these.

If it is what you say it is, and isn't very deep then paintless dent removal will make everything look perfect again.

They basically massage the metal from the inside and push it back out.

MattP725 06-15-2012 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by chrischhorn (Post 1772886)
Service King was on the news yesterday because of doin over 300 quotes on vehicle repairs alone. They are scheduled for 500+ today at a SINGLE location.:ughdance:
Yeah I think I'd opt to wait it out if I was one of them. You can't be getting top quality attention when there are 499 other people separating the body tech and his couch at home.

PapoZalsa 06-15-2012 08:53 AM
Been thru that with a new car back in the days. But hopefully now with the new technology like paintless dent removal can fix some of the damage.

Sorry it happened and GL!

slumpey 06-15-2012 09:39 AM
May have already been covered, but have you contacted your insurance company? I had hail damaged ($2,500+) and it was covered. Did not raise my deductible/premium.

UNKNOWN_370 06-15-2012 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by MattP725 (Post 1772571)
Your lucky you got a quick appointment with such widespread damage down there... I figured you'd be waiting for months.
A lot of people don't consider going to the dealership vs a shop and I went before the after-work rush went lookiing for appointments. I made sure I went early and sealed my appt.

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Originally Posted by Thechidz (Post 1772569)
I just saw the story of the huge hail storm in texas on the news before reading this thread :(

would the insurance company total the vehicle with this kind of dent damage?

Luckily, my damage is low enough not to have to file with insurance but I'm sure if I had damage on a severe scale, insurance my consider a total out. Some cars see holes through the aluminum and all broken glass. These storms are pretty bad.

MattP725 06-15-2012 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 1773299)
A lot of people don't consider going to the dealership vs a shop and I went before the after-work rush went lookiing for appointments. I made sure I went early and sealed my appt.
The dealership I'm sure had tons of damage itself though. Maybe that's why it is a good deal... the guy might be doing cars in bulk at the dealership.

Side note... we talk about damaged cars sold as new all the time... I'd reco staying away from a new car dealership in TX for at least 6 months! lol

sexZness 06-15-2012 11:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 1772316)
Thanks again guys for all the extra support.:tiphat: you guys are great.

So I went to my dealer because I know they have a really good PDR guy who fixes there lot vehicles. They are dependent on him to get cars back to normal without reporting hail damage. So I trust the guy... he said for all 11 dents it will be around $180. He says 9 look like a positive for them disappearing. 2 of them, he won't know till he tries. I have an appt. Tuesday. They also informed me of a "Blue" 2012 Z they have. Lol. They still remember the hell I put them through to get me a blue Z. Its a thought crossing my mind.
which dealership did you go to? I have a couple I need to get out but some local/mobile PDR guys quoted just as much for 2!

Sgt Bob 06-15-2012 12:17 PM
Hail Damage
 
There has been some success using compressed air and a hair dryer. Turn the compressed air can upside down and spray the dent. Turning it upside down condenses the compressed air and sprays on cold moist air. Have a hair dryer running as hot as possible. Wipe the cold moist air off with a clean dry towel and hit it with the heat. In some cases the contraction/expansion of the metal will pop the dent, especially if it is smooth.

Depending on how hot it gets where you are a lot of hail dents simply pop out on their on.

Finally, ask around car dealerships for the best hail repair person they use. I saw a guy here in Shreveport completely clean up a black Tundra that was pummelled with large hail at the Dallas airport. You couldn't find any semblance of a dent when he was done.

370zproject 06-17-2012 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1770738)
I could be wrong, but I believe that sexZness and/or 370zproject have had this problem before. You may want to ask one of them.
yea sorry to hear it happend to me i had about 15 spots on mine was about 500 in repairs

Alstann 06-17-2012 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by EndyKwon (Post 1770854)
Ouch, I'm really sorry to hear that man :(

If theres any advice I can give you, I only have this youtube video to spare. I've been keeping it JUST IN CASE:

Compressed Air Dent Removal - YouTube
I wouldn't attempt this on small dings caused by hail. This technique seems to work best on larger dents and whatnot, and even then, it could cause paint damage.

Let a Paintless Dent Repair guy take a look at it.


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