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sonic370 06-07-2012 07:19 PM

Hot Dog only in Texas
 
Yee-haw! Texas studies 85-mph speed limit - US news - Life - msnbc.com

Thought it would be easier just to post the link. You know if they give you 85
your gonna take 100. can hardy wait for the road to open. only concern is watching out for the other guy..................

kensnismo 06-07-2012 07:25 PM

Hell they do that now on the george bush

Pintsize725 06-07-2012 07:27 PM

Gotta factor in the big rigs. I'm interested to see the accident rate once this goes into effect.

theDreamer 06-07-2012 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Pintsize725 (Post 1759661)
Gotta factor in the big rigs. I'm interested to see the accident rate once this goes into effect.

There are already roads in Texas which allow 80mph, also this law might not allow 18 wheelers to right to travel at those speeds. Many Interstates have two speed signs, 70+mph for passenger vehicles and 65mph for 18 wheelers.

Spikuh 06-07-2012 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 1759663)
There are already roads in Texas which allow 80mph, also this law might not allow 18 wheelers to right to travel at those speeds. Many Interstates have two speed signs, 70+mph for passenger vehicles and 65mph for 18 wheelers.

This.


We already have speed limits that bump up to 80 when you start getting further out west. In all honesty, some of those highways are good enough that you could probably push 100 and be about as safe. Mind you, I am speaking to the road quality, not other factors.

I feel most major highways and interstates should be 85 once your get out from populated areas.

gurneyeagle 06-07-2012 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Pintsize725 (Post 1759661)
Gotta factor in the big rigs. I'm interested to see the accident rate once this goes into effect.

Hi Ms. Pint! :hello:

In spite what has been stated in other threads, there has never been any correlation between speed and traffic fatalities, unless it's a study funded by an insurance company. As speeds have increased over the last 20 years with the repeal of the dreaded "double nickel", fatalities have continued to go down.

Chalk a lot of that up to much safer cars and highways, but speed as the actual cause of an accident is not that common.

P.S. - liked the old avatar! :tup:

sonic370 06-07-2012 07:38 PM

i enjoyed the part where it said it would be the fastest POSTED maximum in
the western hemisphere, and the second fastest in the world.

of course what they post means nothing. people drive 80-85 all the time even with it's posted 55.

Pintsize725 06-07-2012 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 1759663)
There are already roads in Texas which allow 80mph, also this law might not allow 18 wheelers to right to travel at those speeds. Many Interstates have two speed signs, 70+mph for passenger vehicles and 65mph for 18 wheelers.

I drive 130 daily at 80 MPH and there is no separate speed limit for big rigs. They raised from 70 to 75 and now 80 in an effort to attract more drivers and rigs to 130 and off of I35.

Pintsize725 06-07-2012 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by gurneyeagle (Post 1759669)
Hi Ms. Pint! :hello:

In spite what has been stated in other threads, there has never been any correlation between speed and traffic fatalities, unless it's a study funded by an insurance company. As speeds have increased over the last 20 years with the repeal of the dreaded "double nickel", fatalities have continued to go down.

Chalk a lot of that up to much safer cars and highways, but speed as the actual cause of an accident is not that common.

P.S. - liked the old avatar! :tup:

Hey, me too. :)

theDreamer 06-07-2012 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Pintsize725 (Post 1759672)
I drive 130 daily at 80 MPH and there is no separate speed limit for big rigs. They raised from 70 to 75 and now 80 in an effort to attract more drivers and rigs to 130 and off of I35.

The signs I am referring are on Interstates, as in I-45 or I-10.
Also, per the requirements of the new speed rules, the roads must meet certain standards to be eligible for the speeds above 75mph. On top of that, most of the new roads which are eligible (the ones being built currently) are all paid roads and 18 wheelers avoid them most of the time if possible.

Honestly, the speed limits need to be raised in most places. Many speed ratings are from times long ago which are not relevant to current traffic conditions, car specifications, or safety standards.

sonic370 06-07-2012 08:23 PM

all very true. i commute daily on I-10 in south east texas..

it's a new rebuilt interstate with 3 lanes. and if your in the far left lane going under 80-85 you will get you axx ran over big rigs and all....

i get a big kick watching the beaters. they are the ones you have to watch out for. they could lose a muffler at any moment :eekdance::eekdance:

Kenny 06-07-2012 08:28 PM

OMG! 85 mph speed limit! Like, no way. Everybody move to Texas now!


























just joking, fu*k you.


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kenchan 06-07-2012 08:40 PM

awesome avatar, kenny!! :tup:

Evofusion 06-07-2012 10:01 PM

We need this! It takes me 8 hours at 85mph (hehe) to get to San Antonio from El Paso! That's how big texas is ;)

LakeShow 06-07-2012 10:14 PM

Doing 85mph over here, you better hope your not going to jail.

Boost_lee 06-07-2012 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Evofusion (Post 1759862)
We need this! It takes me 8 hours at 85mph (hehe) to get to San Antonio from El Paso! That's how big texas is ;)

Yup. Its actually a shorter drive from Texarkana TX to Chicago IL, than it is from Texarkana TX to El Paso TX :tup:

houkouonchi 06-08-2012 01:02 AM

Hopefully this will be in affect in 2 months when I drive to Dallas in 2 months for QuakeCon =)

jpritche 06-08-2012 01:07 AM

Thats crazy! If you are caught going 85+ in Georgia you are automatically given a Super Speeder ticket... I guess everything is bigger in Texas :rolleyes:

RiCharlie 06-08-2012 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evofusion (Post 1759862)
We need this! It takes me 8 hours at 85mph (hehe) to get to San Antonio from El Paso! That's how big texas is ;)

FYI it takes me a half hour to drive from east to west and about 45 minutes and you have crossed the state from north to south. Speed limit is 65 but this state and Florida are in competition for the oldest population.

PS do any of the cities of Texas have underground subways like Boston, Washington or New York?

IDZRVIT 06-08-2012 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evofusion (Post 1759862)
We need this! It takes me 8 hours at 85mph (hehe) to get to San Antonio from El Paso! That's how big texas is ;)

Only 8 hrs? It takes me two days to drive from Cornwall, Ontario to Thunder Bay, Ontario.:driving:

m4a1mustang 06-08-2012 06:27 AM

In Virginia anything over 80 mph is reckless. There are some areas where the speed limit is 75. Damn we drive so close to the edge! :bowrofl:

wstar 06-08-2012 07:45 AM

While I'm all for higher limits (and I'm gonna go over whatever limits there are), there is a certain logic to the correlation between speed and fatality rate per accident.

Most impacts don't happen at full speed, you usually get a little braking in at the "oh ****" moment. Braking distance (and reaction distance) to reach a certain target speed goes up exponentially with increases in initial cruising speed. That's how even a small difference in top-end cruising speed results in a more dramatic difference in the slower impact speed, which makes a large difference in accident lethality.

That being said though, I don't think it should be focused on. The speed limit is a relatively minor factor in the end. The big factors in highway fatality rates, IMHO, are all related to human error and car negligence. Better driver training and more police action to get unmaintained clearly-unsafe vehicles off the highway would be a better use of resources than worrying about speed limits. Stop inspecting every year for exhaust fumes and start inspecting every 6 months for brake/tire maintenance, that'd be a great start.

m4a1mustang 06-08-2012 07:57 AM

6 month inspections are too much of a burden. Once a year is fine. In VA everything gets checked annually. If your pads are too low or rotors are to worn you have to fix it before you get your safety sticker.

I agree, though, that it's a big driver problem. People need to maintain safe distances at speed and there needs to be a reduction in driver aggression. I see too many weaving in and out of traffic at speed on the highway all the time.

I'm sure if all the slow ***** would learn to drive in the far right lane this would mitigate a lot of the weaving. :icon17:

sonic370 06-08-2012 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RiCharlie (Post 1760310)
FYI it takes me a half hour to drive from east to west and about 45 minutes and you have crossed the state from north to south. Speed limit is 65 but this state and Florida are in competition for the oldest population.

PS do any of the cities of Texas have underground subways like Boston, Washington or New York?

Not that i can think of. What are they?............lol just kidding

sonic370 06-08-2012 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wstar (Post 1760411)
While I'm all for higher limits (and I'm gonna go over whatever limits there are), there is a certain logic to the correlation between speed and fatality rate per accident.

Most impacts don't happen at full speed, you usually get a little braking in at the "oh ****" moment. Braking distance (and reaction distance) to reach a certain target speed goes up exponentially with increases in initial cruising speed. That's how even a small difference in top-end cruising speed results in a more dramatic difference in the slower impact speed, which makes a large difference in accident lethality.

That being said though, I don't think it should be focused on. The speed limit is a relatively minor factor in the end. The big factors in highway fatality rates, IMHO, are all related to human error and car negligence. Better driver training and more police action to get unmaintained clearly-unsafe vehicles off the highway would be a better use of resources than worrying about speed limits. Stop inspecting every year for exhaust fumes and start inspecting every 6 months for brake/tire maintenance, that'd be a great start.

i totally agree well put. get the heaps of the street. i know people going 80-85 on what are nothing less that slicks.

PapoZalsa 06-08-2012 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 1759663)
There are already roads in Texas which allow 80mph, also this law might not allow 18 wheelers to right to travel at those speeds. Many Interstates have two speed signs, 70+mph for passenger vehicles and 65mph for 18 wheelers.

Well, 18 wheeler travel at that speed all the time on any part of the country. They are the #1 cause of accidents/incidents in the interstates and highways.

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1760381)
In Virginia anything over 80 mph is reckless. There are some areas where the speed limit is 75. Damn we drive so close to the edge! :bowrofl:

Yeap, that is the Republic of Virginia and no Radar Detector.

kenchan 06-08-2012 08:50 AM

you get to drive 100mph with $100 for 4 tires crowd. yay!

wstar 06-08-2012 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1760417)
6 month inspections are too much of a burden. Once a year is fine. In VA everything gets checked annually. If your pads are too low or rotors are to worn you have to fix it before you get your safety sticker.

Even a yearly check on brakes/tires/etc would be a help. I don't know how it is in the other states in general, but at least here in TX the annual state inspection has devolved into being purely about emissions. I remember they used to actually check other things, even little stuff like headlight alignment. These days you just drive up and they plug into OBD-II and check that you're meeting the emissions guidelines, take your money, and slap on a sticker. They could care less about your bald tires, cracked rotors, and non-existant brake pads.

m4a1mustang 06-08-2012 09:28 AM

In VA we have an annual safety inspection where they check everything. Brakes, suspension, windows, horn, lights, tires, etc. They also do a spot check for emissions.

Every 2 years we have to have an emissions test.

Most of the cars here are in roadworthy shape due to the inspection. However once you cross into MD (no inspection) there are cars driving around that shouldn't be allowed to leave the junk yard lot.

wstar 06-08-2012 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1760492)
you get to drive 100mph with $100 for 4 tires crowd. yay!

Ugh, that's a good point too. I know we have speed rating standards, but are they enforced? Are those $100 special tires only designed and rated for like 70mph? Is there a federal standard that sets a minimum tire speed rating a shop can install on a road-legal car?

PapoZalsa 06-08-2012 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by wstar (Post 1760560)
Ugh, that's a good point too. I know we have speed rating standards, but are they enforced? Are those $100 special tires only designed and rated for like 70mph? Is there a federal standard that sets a minimum tire speed rating a shop can install on a road-legal car?

It should be like Germany when it comes to installing tires that don't meet that standard for that rated speed.

Cmike2780 06-08-2012 09:52 AM

Most accidents do have speed as a factor, but it's usually just one part of the cause and not the actual trigger. It's when someone is drunk and speeding, or texting and speeding that avoidable collisions occur...also weather. Street racing crowds aren't helping the cause either. Roads can be built to permit unlimited speeds, but then again, moving violations are a huge money maker.

Most of those cheap tires for passanger cars are S-Rated (112 mph) or higher. I would really watch out for the guys full sized pick-up, especially in Texas where it seems everybody has one. Not something that's in abundance on the Autobahn. You also reduce that speed rating if the tire ever had a puncture and was repaired.

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m4a1mustang 06-08-2012 09:57 AM

(Y) rating or bust.

Evofusion 06-08-2012 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boost_lee (Post 1760003)
Yup. Its actually a shorter drive from Texarkana TX to Chicago IL, than it is from Texarkana TX to El Paso TX :tup:

Likewise I can cross over 2 states to Los Angeles, California (12 hour drive)

Or I can just take a 12 hour ride to beaumont, TX and never leave the state :roflpuke2:

m4a1mustang 06-08-2012 10:27 AM

I remember the first time I drove to Texas I noticed the mile-marker on I-10 when I crossed over from Louisiana. I was like :icon14:

Luckily I was only driving to Houston.

theDreamer 06-08-2012 10:31 AM

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Spikuh 06-08-2012 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wstar (Post 1760550)
Even a yearly check on brakes/tires/etc would be a help. I don't know how it is in the other states in general, but at least here in TX the annual state inspection has devolved into being purely about emissions. I remember they used to actually check other things, even little stuff like headlight alignment. These days you just drive up and they plug into OBD-II and check that you're meeting the emissions guidelines, take your money, and slap on a sticker. They could care less about your bald tires, cracked rotors, and non-existant brake pads.

The shops I use actually still check most of that stuff. Except maybe headlight alignment and how much brake pad I have left. They definitely check lights, turn signals, brake lights and tire life for me.

But I do agree, a comprehensive check once a year is a must for keeping the vehicles on the road in working order. After all, we are driving 1 to 2 ton missiles...

Mt Tam I am 06-08-2012 11:17 AM

The US freeway system was designed in the 1950's to be driven at 85 MPH in a 1950's vehicle. I think it will work out in Texas.

2011 Nismo#91 06-08-2012 11:58 AM

Yeah 85 would be a bad idea. When the speed in NJ was raised in some areas from 55 to 65. The average speed in those areas went from 65 to 75.

The roads may have been designed for 1950s cars going 85 but there are a lot more cars on the roads today. When I started driving the highway by my parents would be empty during rush hour now its packed.

I don't know how people in Texas drive but here in NJ on the turnpike I see people doing very dumb things all the time at 75mph+. One example I got passed while doing 75 by a 90's Dodge caravan pulling a small uhaul trailer with the little wheels probably not ment for doing ~80mph. And that van was is bad shape, if they cheap out on replacing the van what else are the cheaping out on, tires, breaks, alignments?

MacLean 06-08-2012 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evofusion (Post 1759862)
We need this! It takes me 8 hours at 85mph (hehe) to get to San Antonio from El Paso! That's how big texas is ;)

Luckily you are not driving from Beaumont, TX to El Paso, TX.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LakeShow (Post 1759887)
Doing 85mph over here, you better hope your not going to jail.

I heard & read that & your vehicle goes to auction too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RiCharlie (Post 1760310)
PS do any of the cities of Texas have underground subways like Boston, Washington or New York?

No we do not have any underground subways. I know in Houston we have tunnels where there is a lot of fast food & restaurants under downtown Houston.

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1760762)
I remember the first time I drove to Texas I noticed the mile-marker on I-10 when I crossed over from Louisiana. I was like :icon14:
Luckily I was only driving to Houston.

Yeap...... You are looking at about 870 miles from that point to El Paso & would take you a good 13-15 hrs possibly, but depends on speed & a lot of other variables too.


Cmike2780, we also have W which is rated at 168 mph & Y which is rated at 186 mph. Z rated tires are the way to go, but you will pay the most for them as well.

I wish here in Houston we had 80 or 85 mph speed limits. One has to remember to that the faster you go the more you are doing to burn through your gas. If speed limit is 80 (or 85) & you are going at a constant speed, then you should do ok on gas.


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