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Cmike2780 06-04-2012 03:27 PM

Do you think the 370Z is a future classic?
 
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With a rather low number of cars being produced, do you think the 370z could one day become a rare, sought after car. Do you think it has enough of a history, of say, where muscle cars from the 60's are now? I don't know if it's just hanging around the Z guys for so long, but even the 300ZX feels like one of those cars you one day wished you owned...or the original 240Z. Anyway, what do you guys think?

EDIT: Lol, sorry about the poll choices. I figured, if you can't decide now, it's still gonna be a maybe when you're dead. Since the definition of classic car is a subjective thing, lets keep it simple. Do you think there will be 370z fans 40-50 years from now. Is it one of those cars that says, "I'm glad I got the chance to drive one." If you found it in a barn in the year 2052, would you want to spend the money to restore this car to a prestine showroom condition.

dmhenderson 06-04-2012 03:30 PM

Too hard to say right now. Not a ton of them on the road and the economy stinks so maybe. Will largely depend on how they hold up over time.

Nismo89 06-04-2012 03:31 PM

as with many of the now "classic" eventually yes. surely not right now but all the Classics didnt start off as "classics

i could see the 370 eventually becoming a Classic yes indeed in time.

Red__Zed 06-04-2012 03:36 PM

It will face an uphill battle to classic status, especially when most people just see it as the 350z.2


The hubbub in the press and dreams of ownership are usually requisite for a car to reach classic status.

m4a1mustang 06-04-2012 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1753621)
It will face an uphill battle to classic status, especially when most people just see it as the 350z.2


The hubbub in the press and dreams of ownership are usually requisite for a car to reach classic status.

BRZ = instant classic.

Spikuh 06-04-2012 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1753627)
BRZ = instant classic.

:iagree::iagree::iagree::iagree::iagree: Now I need a snack from all that effort.

EDIT: I don't like any of the choices. I am decidedly in the maybe column, but I would prefer if I didn't have to die...:(

LakeShow 06-04-2012 03:46 PM

I mean it is the most powerful and best Z ever built. Limited production or low production of 370z's also. 350z is almost on every corner of any street. 350z, I feel the only good one was the HR or maybe the Nismo, other than that the 300ZX was probably faster than the other 350's.

Cmike2780 06-04-2012 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spikuh (Post 1753638)
:iagree::iagree::iagree::iagree::iagree: Now I need a snack from all that effort.

EDIT: I don't like any of the choices. I am decidedly in the maybe column, but I would prefer if I didn't have to die...:(

it's a poetic and deep observation.

m4a1mustang 06-04-2012 03:52 PM

:iagree: I don't like the choices either.

DAMNIT MIKE. :crying:

DJ-of-E 06-04-2012 04:03 PM

Hell, the 260z is considered a "classic" bastard child. The 280z is just "classic looking" and first to have turbo from MFR. That car didn't get considered with any words as "classic" until a few years ago.

Too soon to tell for the 370z.

By the time that happens, we probably has hybrid systems that would eat the torque on the Zs. Heck, it's probably be too expensive to run a gasoline powered car when we could get a car that runs on water and trash thanks to the ever so developing flux capacitor.

Cmike2780 06-04-2012 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1753655)
:iagree: I don't like the choices either.

DAMNIT MIKE. :crying:

lolz, I don't think I can edit a poll. Can I?

JARblue 06-04-2012 04:36 PM

Your picture confuses me. :confused: I'm not sure I've ever seen a rear windshield wiper on a 370Z. Biased vote forthcoming...

theDreamer 06-04-2012 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 1753704)
Your picture confuses me. :confused: I'm not sure I've ever seen a rear windshield wiper on a 370Z. Biased vote forthcoming...

Japan/Europe got them, maybe Australia?

JARblue 06-04-2012 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 1753705)
Japan/Europe got them, maybe Australia?

I've never heard of those places...



j/k... thank you for that clarification :tiphat:

LakeShow 06-04-2012 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 1753704)
Your picture confuses me. :confused: I'm not sure I've ever seen a rear windshield wiper on a 370Z. Biased vote forthcoming...

Also no rear spoiler. :confused:

theDreamer 06-04-2012 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LakeShow (Post 1753745)
Also no rear spoiler. :confused:

Rear spoiler is an option, even for sport package.

LakeShow 06-04-2012 04:57 PM

I'll tell you how this poll will go, people with regular Z's will vote 100%, people woth 40th Z's will vote for the 40th, people with Nismo Z's will vote Nismo, people who sold the Z and got 5.0 Mustangs will vote no chance. :stirthepot:

m4a1mustang 06-04-2012 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LakeShow (Post 1753753)
I'll tell you how this poll will go, people with regular Z's will vote 100%, people woth 40th Z's will vote for the 40th, people with Nismo Z's will vote Nismo, people who sold the Z and got 5.0 Mustangs will vote no chance. :stirthepot:

Trollolol wrong.

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ernie 06-04-2012 05:28 PM

I never thought my 66, 68 gto's, 68 stingray, 69 boss 302, or any number of cars I purchased new in the 60's would not only be classics but rare ones at that. I saw the same 68, 427 stingray, British racing green, 427, 4spd go for 100 grand @ Barretts auction, I sold it for $4,600.00 thought I was robbing the guy! I also wish I had my300zx twin turbo I sold in 95. I will pass down my 370z to my grandson, in mint condition, with specific instructions to my son as to the proper care and storage of said vehicle! I would think that it would look like the model A Ford my Dad drove us around in when I was 5 years old by the time my grandson is old enough to drive.

sexZness 06-04-2012 05:32 PM

Whoa... so are we currently speculating about the possible future "classic" qualifications of the 370z? :icon08:

Isamu 06-04-2012 05:57 PM

ibtl

and of course i voted for the NISMO :p

Red__Zed 06-04-2012 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LakeShow (Post 1753753)
I'll tell you how this poll will go, people with regular Z's will vote 100%, people woth 40th Z's will vote for the 40th, people with Nismo Z's will vote Nismo, people who sold the Z and got 5.0 Mustangs will vote no chance. :stirthepot:

nope.


not voting because poll choices aren't inclusive of a realistic answer.

The fair comment is the 370z possesses certain traits (heritage, classic lines, solid performance, etc) that help make the case for being a future classic, but at the same time, there is more that is required for a car to be a classic.

Cars like the 60s mustang completely redefined the automotive landscape, and spawned a new class of cars. They were discussed relentlessly, featured in iconic movies, and were every teenager's dream.

The 370Z is a perfectly good car, but you won't find it center stage in any movies, and very few people know what it is, much less stay up at night dreaming they had one. It is a more evolutionary step from the 350Z, and hasn't (directly) inspired any competitors in a way that points back to the Z.


Cars like the GTR will likely be renowned for their shattering of performance barriers well into the future.

Cars like the RX7 will be recognized because, in addition to being kick-*** cars, they got the requisite media recognition...remember when Playboy remarked that the 93 RX7 was a better car than the Viper? That sort of buzz is essential for a car to become "classic," because it helps non-enthusiasts recognize the car.

dad 06-04-2012 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1753878)
nope.


not voting because poll choices aren't inclusive of a realistic answer.

The fair comment is the 370z possesses certain traits (heritage, classic lines, solid performance, etc) that help make the case for being a future classic, but at the same time, there is more that is required for a car to be a classic.

Cars like the 60s mustang completely redefined the automotive landscape, and spawned a new class of cars. They were discussed relentlessly, featured in iconic movies, and were every teenager's dream.

The 370Z is a perfectly good car, but you won't find it center stage in any movies, and very few people know what it is, much less stay up at night dreaming they had one. It is a more evolutionary step from the 350Z, and hasn't (directly) inspired any competitors in a way that points back to the Z.


Cars like the GTR will likely be renowned for their shattering of performance barriers well into the future.

Cars like the RX7 will be recognized because, in addition to being kick-*** cars, they got the requisite media recognition...remember when Playboy remarked that the 93 RX7 was a better car than the Viper? That sort of buzz is essential for a car to become "classic," because it helps non-enthusiasts recognize the car.

Agreed! You'll never see a 370Z on Barrett-Jackson to be auctioned off either! But you will see Mustangs!

sexZness 06-04-2012 06:28 PM

is this turning into another mustang thread? :stirthepot:

UchinanchuZee 06-04-2012 08:26 PM

My $.02

A classic 100% depends on the lines and raw power. The 240, 300z, and 370z have then. The comparisons will be against either similarly situated cars now, and then.

The 370z is not the fastest, or sleekest, but it is challenging on its own. It has history like the vette, Porsche, and rustang...but it continues to move forward unlike the rustang that wants to go back to the days when it was really garbage.

My Z turns heads and it's nowhere as pimped as many of yall's. I haven't even put my wheels on yet...they are still in my closet! But what often turns into a classic, like someone said is it's connection to its owners. The 240 instantly grabbed datsun owners and converted many others. The 2 year hiatus in 88-90 killed Z lovers. The 6-7 year hiatus between 96-03 REALLY destroyed Z lovers but won us back with great lines. The conversion from the 350 to the 370 was no just the herringbone interior going from the left to the right as an improvement, but a total redesign with the OWNERS AND LOVERS in mind. The new camero can't be a classic because it's a ripoff newer version of an older car. Rustangs too. And vettes ....never happen again until they kill their present design team!

As long as we keep it classy and not super stupid it out...yes, we are driving living classics. The 2013 is a ripoff version of the 350 and 370. And it looks like shiznot!

danegrey 06-04-2012 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LakeShow (Post 1753753)
I'll tell you how this poll will go, people with regular Z's will vote 100%, people woth 40th Z's will vote for the 40th, people with Nismo Z's will vote Nismo, people who sold the Z and got 5.0 Mustangs will vote no chance. :stirthepot:

now, now, I went the other way I sold my 91 mustang gt 5.0 and went with the Z. I found the current version of the mustang just too big / heavy.... Now the fox body I like, and I did own an originally 240z. And I get as many comments on my Z as I did on my Stang...

sonic370 06-04-2012 08:34 PM

with it's low sales volume it could go either way.
10 years from now a low mileage 370 in great shape may be worth a lot.

gomer_110 06-04-2012 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonic370 (Post 1754072)
with it's low sales volume it could go either way.
10 years from now a low mileage 370 in great shape may be worth a lot.

Especially a Nismo. :stirthepot:

b1adesofcha0s 06-04-2012 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1753878)
nope.


not voting because poll choices aren't inclusive of a realistic answer.

The fair comment is the 370z possesses certain traits (heritage, classic lines, solid performance, etc) that help make the case for being a future classic, but at the same time, there is more that is required for a car to be a classic.

Cars like the 60s mustang completely redefined the automotive landscape, and spawned a new class of cars. They were discussed relentlessly, featured in iconic movies, and were every teenager's dream.

The 370Z is a perfectly good car, but you won't find it center stage in any movies, and very few people know what it is, much less stay up at night dreaming they had one. It is a more evolutionary step from the 350Z, and hasn't (directly) inspired any competitors in a way that points back to the Z.


Cars like the GTR will likely be renowned for their shattering of performance barriers well into the future.

Cars like the RX7 will be recognized because, in addition to being kick-*** cars, they got the requisite media recognition...remember when Playboy remarked that the 93 RX7 was a better car than the Viper? That sort of buzz is essential for a car to become "classic," because it helps non-enthusiasts recognize the car.

Bingo! The GT-R definitely, the 370Z as it is probably much less likely IMO. Not saying it won't happen, but it's not a definite yes. I think if it still held a performance edge over it's competitors then I would give it a better chance. With the 5.0 out performing the 370Z in its current state, it kind of makes the Z seem like it's being left behind. That's not usually something you see in a future classic car.

6MT 06-04-2012 09:30 PM

Loaded question. What do you think the response is going to be on a 370 site?

mhcoss 06-04-2012 09:33 PM

I think in 30 years it will be a classic with out a doubt.

6MT 06-04-2012 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Isamu (Post 1753861)
ibtl

and of course i voted for the NISMO :p

Ha! Mustang hater! I'm IBTL!

DarkJak 06-05-2012 02:03 AM

I'd like to think that the 370Z has a decent chance at becoming a classic. They stand out due to their rarity and more unique styling. And performance is good and sales are low enough that well-maintained examples could retain good value.

The biggest thing that I think is going against it is that Nissan is lending so much of the Z's styling to its other cars, such as the Altima, Maxima, and even the Juke. The fact that they share a lot of styling characteristics (boomerang lights, more flared bodies) might end up diluting the appeal of the 370's lines.

harry370z 06-05-2012 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 1753705)
Japan/Europe got them, maybe Australia?

All Aussie cars came windcreen wipers.

We also got one trim level (sports/touring)

didymus 06-05-2012 09:37 AM

Can we define what a "classic" is?

Mt Tam I am 06-05-2012 09:54 AM

My choice is missing: maybe in a few years (during my lifetime)

2011 Nismo#91 06-05-2012 10:16 AM

I didn't like any of the choices so I picked the one best for me =)

Anyway there is nothing really revolutionary about this gen of Z. Technical, Performance, or feature wise. So no points for it being the first to do something.
Will it be the last Z in some major respect? Last NA, Last large displacement, last non hybrid, etc? I don't think anyone can say for sure so "maybe" in my lifetime.

Mt Tam I am 06-05-2012 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2011 Nismo#91 (Post 1754810)
I didn't like any of the choices so I picked the one best for me =)

Anyway there is nothing really revolutionary about this gen of Z. Technical, Performance, or feature wise. So no points for it being the first to do something.
Will it be the last Z in some major respect? Last NA, Last large displacement, last non hybrid, etc? I don't think anyone can say for sure so "maybe" in my lifetime.

One thing came to mind, Syncro rev matching. This is new and unique to a MT.

TypeOne 06-05-2012 11:28 AM

I don't think so.

It is a great car, and I LOVE everything about mine... but it's just not ground breaking enough. It is NOT a car that everyone is talking about.

It isn't going to be though of like the BRZ/FRS or even the GTR.

Sure it has Synchro-rev match, but it's not hugely popular... not to mention that it's the ONLY car it has ever been offered on. Remember when S2000 owners used to rave about their 120hp per liter? Exactly.

UchinanchuZee 06-05-2012 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by didymus (Post 1754733)
Can we define what a "classic" is?

I think I did......?:confused:


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