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awdxtc 05-06-2012 08:13 PM

A few questions about the 370Z engine
 
I am thinking about buying a 370Z Nismo edition. I was wondering how stout the engine is. At what hp level do you have to start replacing the internals etc?

LakeShow 05-06-2012 08:17 PM

If you maintain a car it won't break down. If you don't beat on it 24/7 it won't break down. Member on here has nearly 100k miles and just regular maintenance.

awdxtc 05-06-2012 08:21 PM

I am talking more like adding a supercharger to it. Like how strong is the bottom end. What can the stock internals support.

MattP725 05-06-2012 08:23 PM

I've seen several around 500 without any block work.

awdxtc 05-06-2012 08:25 PM

Thank you. 500 would be about all I wanted. I already have a 900+ hp car. Who makes a supercharger or turbo kit for the 370? I see tons of stuff for the 350 but not the 370.

tomnavone 05-06-2012 08:29 PM

Gtm ftw

awdxtc 05-06-2012 08:30 PM

Thanks, i will check them out.

MJB 05-06-2012 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by awdxtc (Post 1706877)
Thank you. 500 would be about all I wanted. I already have a 900+ hp car. Who makes a supercharger or turbo kit for the 370? I see tons of stuff for the 350 but not the 370.

You have a 900+hp Talon?

awdxtc 05-06-2012 08:38 PM

Yes.........

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mhcoss 05-06-2012 09:24 PM

lol

awdxtc 05-06-2012 09:29 PM

What's so funny?

ShinyBlueZ 05-06-2012 09:33 PM

talonnnnnn

my friend had a talon.. it was also black hehe

:ninja3:

gofaster87 05-06-2012 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by awdxtc (Post 1706975)
What's so funny?

Not sure, but a 4G63 motor is nothing to laugh at. I dropped a 4G64 in my Evo and that was a screamer. The Dsms and Evo are much easier to work with.

awdxtc 05-06-2012 09:34 PM

not really sure what is so funny about 900 plus hp. I guess just a bunch of guys that really don't have experience with cars.

kenchan 05-06-2012 09:36 PM

op - do you have a pict of your car with your front bumper cover mounted? maybe post that too.

awdxtc 05-06-2012 09:37 PM

not with the intercooler on. I pulled the motor to switch rods and don't have it all back together.

Sysopz 05-06-2012 09:37 PM

:drama:

awdxtc 05-06-2012 09:41 PM

Not really sure why there is drama.

Sysopz 05-06-2012 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by awdxtc (Post 1706990)
Not really sure why there is drama.

Me either just a prediction, 900hp is pretty nasty that thing must be a beast!

awdxtc 05-06-2012 09:46 PM

Should be even better this year, might get it on slicks. I also went to larger injectors to run E98

NYBladeZ 05-06-2012 09:48 PM

Wow pics and info of this beast please!

awdxtc 05-06-2012 09:59 PM

While in Iraq I began to look for another DSM. I wanted a car that did not have a million miles on it and I wanted a clean body. About halfway through my search I decided that I wanted a 90-91 car and it had to be black with silver color combination. My first car ever was a 1990 Talon AWD in this color combination. The difference was that it has 200,000+ miles on it and the body was not that great, but when I was a kid thats all I could afford. I looked for over a year and I could not find 1 car that was half of what I wanted. I gave up for about 3 months then one day I decided to try autotrader.com. I searched for both Mitsubishi Eclipse and Eagle Talon, 1990-1991 in black and this was the first car I found. The ad read something like this:

"1990 Eagle Talon AWD, Black and Silver, ONLY 47,000 Original miles still has new car smell."

I immediately wrote down the number, switched from a computer to a phone (damn internet cafe') and called the guy. He said that he bought it from the original owner and had never driven the car other than to bring it home (about 5 miles) I told him I was in Iraq and that I was 99 percent positive I wanted the car. I asked him to send me as many pictures as he could and that I would call him after I received the pics. I had the pictures in under 30 minutes. After looking at the pics I knew I had to have it. I called him back and told him I wanted the car, but my parents were on vacation so it would be about a week before anyone could come for it. He said no problem, I got his name and address to send him 500 dollars to hold the car. I then called my parents who informed me that they had ended their vacation early and were only an hour away from his house. I called the guy back, my parents pick it up that night!!! The rest as they say is history. So here is a bit of history on the build.

Originaly this build stared out as a 550 hp build. I had a turbo made from bullseye power bought a few other items like an act 2600 etc. I then contacted Ron Shearer about making me a manifold for the turbo. At the time Ron was not really making T3 manifolds. After talkin with Ron I changed my goals and we came to the conclusion that this turbo was just not going to do the job. We decided to go with a Garrett GT42R. After doing much research and realizing just how much power could be made with that turbo I was all in. I quickly went from building a 550 hp car to a 650 hp car then to what I am building today..a car that should make well over 900 hp off the bottle. I started buying 1600 cc injectors, AEM EMS, sold the parts I had already bought and just kept moving forward. I contacted John Shepherd about building me a transmission. I wanted a stage 3 but after talking with John we decided to go with a doxbox transmission. I then started explaining that I needed a clutch and was not sure what to use for such high hp levels. John gave me a few choices and explained the strengths and weaknesses of each. The only weakness of the tilton was the price. I was in the mind set that if I was going to build this car I would do it right. I then stated that I needed axles and a driveshaft and I had questions about the strength of the transfer case and a cylinder head. So about 16,000 dollars later I had a dogbox,tilton carbon clutch, driveshaft shop axles both front and rear, drive shaft shop driveshaft one of John's transfer cases and a Fox Lake cylinder head. I contacted Buschur Racing about things like the short block, msd ignition etc and they were very helpful as they have always been to me. After getting a good parts list complete I started to assembly. I am going to stop ranting for a while and post an up to date mod list and some pics.

Mods:
Buschur Stage 3 Block GRP Aluminum rods JE pistons
Buschur racing FMIC New style
Buschur racing boost controller
Dual Tial 44mm wastegates
Dual Tial Bovs
Custom Grind Crane cams
Magnus Motorsports intake manifold
AccuFab 75MM throttle body
Fox Lake Head 5 angle cnc ported
AEM Wide band
Nitrous Oxide Systems Direct port pro fogger
Tilton Carbon/Carbon clutch
Shep Racing Dogbox transmision
Driveshaft Shop Stage 5 axles
Shep Racing transfercase upgrade
Driveshaft shop alluminum driveshaft
Shearer Fabrication Top mount manifold
Shearer fab 3.5" V band turbo back Exhaust
Shearer 5" intake
Shearer v band intercooler pipes
Ceramic coated manifold,downpipe, turbine housing and dump tubes
GT42R
FIC 1000 CC primaries
FIC 1600 cc secondary injectors
Weldon 2345 fuel pump
Weldon dial a flow fuel pump controller
3rd Gen RX-7 Wheels
Dul piston brake upgrade
Aem EMS
KYB AGX
Eibach pros

I am sure there is more but it's just so hard to remember. If some asks what I am running for this part or that part I can tell you but to make a list is just kinda hard.

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Sysopz 05-06-2012 10:05 PM

Looks like a monster to me it has to be a handful to drive.

gofaster87 05-06-2012 10:06 PM

Nice setup. So Shearer did most of it? I haven't heard that name in a few years.

awdxtc 05-06-2012 10:08 PM

Ron built the intercooler piping, exhaust and sumped the fuel tank. I put it together myself. All I can say is thank god for turbo lag

Sysopz 05-06-2012 10:12 PM

Well I hope you get your hands on a Z to build, from the looks of your last project it would be one Evil Mofo!

awdxtc 05-06-2012 10:17 PM

That's why I was asking about the engine in the Z. I am really not interested in pulling the engine apart on one.

ShinyBlueZ 05-06-2012 10:19 PM

how much do you estimate you spent on the car? :O
high quality pics dude!
also.. I love A&W root beer as well. :tup:

awdxtc 05-06-2012 10:28 PM

A&W FTW. I have around $50,000 into it

NYBladeZ 05-06-2012 11:50 PM

I say run a TT kit with e85 for maximum safe power. I know e85 provides less mileage and efficiency but if you can get around that do it. If you want a more "mild" build, I'd go GTM stage 2 s/c. We've seen Z's hold 500whp but as usual the tune must be spot on perfect. The GTM s/c won't cause you to push the limits. So to answer your question, yeah I'd say the motor is strong enough OEM to handle your "entry" level power desires. You'll need to upgrade the clutch and csc though.

mhcoss 05-06-2012 11:54 PM

that thing is a monster. I said lol because i would never expect a car like that to have 900 hp. good stuff

bvl 05-07-2012 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by awdxtc (Post 1706983)
not really sure what is so funny about 900 plus hp. I guess just a bunch of guys that really don't have experience with cars.

Laughing does not mean its *at* you or the vehicle.

I too got a chuckle out of that picture. That is a big IC and a *huge* snail. If you have seen enough stockers when you pop the hood and see that monster sneering at you... :)

Do you find it streetable? Not sure of the A/R and I am a few years removed from being up to date on various choices for 2.0l engines and aftermarket options. The 4G63 is well cemented in the history books for its capabilities. Though 1/2 the power I found the 16 and 20 upgrades (350-450ish HP) very nice on the DSM cars.

- b

Pauly 05-07-2012 02:54 PM

i dig that car

vividracing 05-07-2012 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mhcoss (Post 1707144)
that thing is a monster. I said lol because i would never expect a car like that to have 900 hp. good stuff

Are you new to the import performance community? One of the 1st things I learned back in high school at the street races was... Don't mess with the DSMs. A race against a DSM has 2 possible outcomes:

1) You get walked. Bad.
2) the DSM blows up. :p

awdxtc 05-07-2012 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vividracing (Post 1708046)
Are you new to the import performance community? One of the 1st things I learned back in high school at the street races was... Don't mess with the DSMs. A race against a DSM has 2 possible outcomes:

1) You get walked. Bad.
2) the DSM blows up. :p

:iagree:

awdxtc 05-07-2012 05:51 PM

About 60 Miles south of Erie.

awdxtc 05-07-2012 05:56 PM

Oil City??

awdxtc 05-07-2012 08:25 PM

Here is a question, I know no one knows the answer but why don't they make the new nismo in Monterey Blue, wtf?

ShinyBlueZ 05-07-2012 08:51 PM

Nismo AND blue? The world couldn't handle that level of beauty and awesomeness. Car production throughout the world would just cease to continue. :driving:

Nissan withheld that lethal combination for the good of the industry.

:worship:

awdxtc 05-07-2012 08:53 PM

piss on that I want both lol


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