I dont give a time to read an article that not proper match up. 370Z and BRZ ? they are in different class.

Please READ before you post..

I said its faster than any FI Z on our forum per our fastest 1/4 mile times thread. (our fastest FI Z here is 11.4 @125)

http://www.the370z.com/track-autocro...ack-times.html

I am #20 NA..

The BRZ and FRS are alright little sports cars. I'm honestly considering one for DD duties. And they're less expensive to get into than a Z. Considerably slower, too. More practical than a Miata, but I feel the Miata would be more fun to drive (top down can work wonders for a connected feel to the road).

In the end, I like all the cars in this comparo, and I like my Z the best.

Agreed shado, I have a 2013 TT RS on order (3 months ago still waiting) for full duty sport and DD.

However im considering something else for DD (possibly BRZ)

Here is what my RS will look like sorry offtopic but i couldnt help it : )

http://www.the370z.com/members/nitex...-here-soon.jpg

Congratulations on the Audi TT RS Nitex. I remember waiting 5 months for my 370Z to be made to my ordered specs, it was worth the wait.:happydance:

Hey thanks!

There is still time to change my mind, but i really love the idea of the RS. Just not sure i can get rid of my Z and not have a RWD car. Which is why i was considering a BRZ.

Maybe ill just keep her we will see!

Wouldn't be a bad idea, she is a Z, something about modding mine and being done made me appreciate her even more, mainly because she has the improvements i wanted based on an amazing platform stock!:tup:

That's how I feel.

The car I got now (aside from the breaks which I want to upgrade, and wheels). Is exactly how it should have come out of the factory.

Love the TTRS. Congrats.

Thanks M4!

I see you got yourself a nice DD focus! Driving the 5.0 much these days? Sure is a beast of an engine!

Back on topic - I really think the BRZ gives the Z's looks some competition. I cant think of a new car less expensive than the BRZ that looks better.

Maybe im getting to used to my Z, i know others seems to think im crazy for it.

Funny thing is I hear alot of people saying ill get BRZ or other cars because its cheaper so they can put parts on the car people say the same with the 370z but mostly people leave their cars stock so its pointless yes this car in this video is fast but 90% of the people wont FI their cars how many people on this forum have FI their 370z 1 out of 10 lets do a poll.


people go to a car dealership and do everything they can just to get a loan and have no money left over to do performance parts that is why 90% dont FI their cars its alot of money to do all this and most people pay cash for these upgrades it would be stupid for someone to rack up a credit card to get these parts.

Nitex, Your future Audi looks nice and your assesment of the BRZ looks is not far off. Sorry for the quality of this pic, but I park next to this FRS (I know it's not a BRZ) in my building quite often & I do notice people checking both cars out.

I like the Z's swept back look better. The roofline to rear window =)

but honestly i said it many times before, if i was going for a sub 30k car, i would get the BRZ no doubt.

I wouldn't even consider anything else.

I went to look at the BRZ before buying the Z, sticker price was 38K

of course with mark up, but its a SUB 30 car.

You don't count mark up. You count msrp.

Just cause you bought your 370z for 50k and got ripped by the dealer doesn't mean its a 50k car lol.

Wait until hype dies and more supply and it will be below 30k

dude i went to a dealer and there msrp is a tad bit over 30k same with the frs i looked at. lol ill just get a base model 370z for same price that has 132 more hp lol pathetic.

Put asides the numbers, the car is great.

Show me one bad article or review on the car. I bet you can't find one.

Cause its good for what it is.

I still wouldn't buy any other car in its price range.

No, go look at one, everything that is sporty about them is the DEALER INSTALLED OPTIONS(RIMS/NAVIGATION/SPOILER/etc....)

Because I got a SPORT model and didn't pay BASE model price doesn't equal ripped off:stirthepot:

My review of it was pretty bad, somewhere in another BRZ/FRS thread. Like I've said, for what it is, it's a rip off and could be an 18K car IMO. Drove like an INTEGRA GSR from 18 years ago with some styling upgrades:stirthepot:

The genesis coupe V6 is a smarter buy IMO for anything N of 30K not being a Z

I got my Sport for 38k last December which I felt was high but at the time I didn't mind (new). I didn't pay 50k for my G37 IPL. If you paid 50k for a Z in any form you paid too mcuh.

:iagree:

Wow, That's more than what I paid out the door for my 13Z with sport package! Better to buy a FRS, at least Scion's prices are fixed.

Sorry, I still think it's a POS, crap interior and build quality from what I've seen too... They made it to a budget... And it's easy to tell

I know someone who spent more on the BRZ than his 370, lol

Makes no sense unless you are talking about aftermarket parts. The BRZ/FRS top out at 27000 fully loaded whereas the 370z starts near or above 40.

People bash the car and I bet half of the people who have, haven't driven it. The car is a lot of car for the money. Sure, the interior is the nicest, and it's underpowered, BUT, the price reflects that. The handling of the car is remarkable! The car is easy to kick out, but only on demand, as it corners extremely well. Anyone who has driven a Miata, it feels the same with a lot more room. If they come out with a turbo model, there will be no competition in the rwd market.

Bunch if fanboiz on this forums.

I bet none of you even driven one. It provides a different experience than the z.

It's more responsive to driver inputs, especially the steering wheel. Go cart like feel

The seats are way more bolstered than the z.

It is slower, but sometimes it isn't about speed. That's why the miata is great.

Would I trade my z for one? No, it's a different beast, I'm a sucker for horsepower and torque.

Would I ever buy one? Yes. For the price nothing new in that range will give you a better driving experience.

Going from that car then hopping into the z, you can quickly feel the weight difference, which is what makes it fun.

It's hard to lose weight but easier to gain horsepower. Once the sti version comes out I'd be glad to switch.

I've driven it.

Not a fan :wtf2:

Overpriced, plan and simple. Would i get one? Maybe as a DD

The Z starts at 40k now???

He said he paid more for his BRZ than his 370, his 370Z was a base *** model, and I think he got it for $26.5 brand new and the BRZ was 27, I'll have him chime in


Also, I drove the FRS recently... Still hate it, I had more fun driving my ex's Yaris than the FRS

On Top Gear they state that a car begins to become fun at the limit of grip. Which is true... But for $25k, it's also gotta be fast... Which it isn't. With a turbo, sure, but I'm pretty happy with my car as it sits, NA...
I still think the FRS/BRZ is ugly and shíttily made...

Please don't bash, I'm not a Nissan fanboy, I'm a Toyota fanboy, but the FRS/BRZ, no... Just no... Keep it away from me... I'd rather drive a Yaris, or my old Avalon, any day of the week

1st: Are you sure you are not the fanboy?
2nd: Again are you sure you have driven one and can actually say it is more responsive? Hell there is a review on here talking about the lack of responsiveness in the frz. The Z's steering is hydro where as the frz is electronic is it not? How do you get realistic feel back into your hands when it is electronic?
3rd: Yes the miata is great, but not so much out the box again when compared to the Z or more exspensive cars that are built with performance in mind from the factory.
4th: Why would I buy something only to have to do MAJOR WARRANTY DENYING MODS to make it really fun to drive?
5th: I do agree with the speculative sti version, but till it hits the streets, we still dont know anything really about it besides specualtion.
6th: I snagged my base sport with 19k on the clock for the same price, so for the price, there is much better options available right now. But then again mine isnt brand new, but I do still have a 7yr 100k bumper to bumper warranty. So with that being said 0k vs 19k miles are irrelevant when you get on a track.

That's quite a statement! More fun in a Yaris vs. FRS ? Could it just be that you prefer a front-wheel drive layout?

I drove a Vios ( sedan version of Yaris) for a few weeks: I found it to be very "Anti-septic" in character and nausea-inducing in fast, tight corners through Coastal canyons. Not very fun.

No, I like the ISF I have and the 370Z plenty.

I took her car out while she was asleep (didn't want to lose my parking space) and damn it was fun driving that POS, didn't brake well, but yeah, I liked driving it a lot, she started to laugh when I told her how fun, but she agreed

How am I a fanboy? I'm just opened to options.

Yours is used im talking new for new. In its price range.

My friend has a brz so yes I've driven it plenty of times back to back, and know what they feel like.

The miata is probably one of the best handling cars ever made, you are blinded by your z lol. Just stop talking.

Maybe because you are still getting more for way less?

So I guess it beign "NEW" makes it better than? I dont remember being "NEW" made a difference specs or performance wise? The miata is still slow from the factory on a track, whether it is a straight line or curved. And I never said it doesnt "handle" well and I did say it was a great car, I just said it is slow. Falls in the same catagory as the frz. Slow+great handling still = slow.

Cars with same price with warranty vs cars with same price with warranty is a good comparison. What is the specualtive price out the box for the STI version?

Reading comprehension kills you.

I never once said it was fast.

Reread my damn original post.

I also said I'm a sucker for Hp and torque so my z is here to stay.

What I did say was fast isn't always the definition of fun which is why there's a market for miatas and brz, lotus Elise, mini coopers.

You are blinded by your z and is a fanboy. I'm done arguing.

Again I'm comparing new to new, yet you can't grasp that concept.

Learn to stop paper racing and actually drive those aforementioned cars. They all provide a unique go cart and very responsive handling feel, which is what some people like.

I am a car person. Who enjoys gocarts when they go slow? I want a gocart that goes fast. Now the elise sport clips almost identical numbers to the z, but even used come in around $30k. Not comparing apples to apples there when referencing the frz. If I wanted a go cart experience and go fast I would have gotten a VW r32. The only thing I guess the frz wins in is that it is "new". Guess your trump card beats all of mine....

Now if I was ill-informed, had $27k to spend, and it had to be "new", wait a minute, I am a car person, so new doesnt factor in my equation, performance all around does. That my friend is why the frz is not that great in the big picture scheme of things. Great for "new" at $25k, but not "great" for $25k. So many better options out there. There is a laundry list of better all around cars for $25k that have less than 20k miles.

End of story/ close thread

Btw guys I enjoy my z and would never trade it for a brz. But I won't hate on other great cars. I'm really looking to see what they announce for the STI. Anyways.

If you actually have road time behind a brz then contribute to this thread in a more meaningful way. Too many people paper racing like the guy 2 posts above that hasn't even been behind the wheel of one.

I have test drove one. My local dealer has like 5 just sitting there. They are no where near as fun as the Z. Maybe if I had never driven a RWD car, and that is a big maybe. You want a fun fast gocart experience ride in my integra I have built, it even has basic bolt-ons for the motor, cant speak for the lack of work under the car, but in a straight line I still think its 150whp non-vtec will even outrun it. It even has wider tires than that car Lol. I bought a RWD for the sole purpose of being able to run the back out with just a light press of the throttle, not have to push the car to its limits to get it to break loose some 215's. The z using only odd number gears will still outpreform the frz.


I do agree with the STI version, but that again would be dependt on price. If it is anywhere near the same price as a regular STI, and I was looking for a boosted RWD sports car that is priced similar whether it is new or not I might have to lean towards the Z4 sdrive35i or the 135i m. But looks might steer me towards the STI version out the box though and the fact I can only imagine the aftermarket parts that will flood the market. But then again a 135i m with a JB4 tune is hard to beat both looks and performance.