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AlanManouk 04-29-2012 05:12 PM

Side Scraped
 
So I've had my Z for about two months the car hasn't even broken in yet! Some idiot reversed right into me damaging my front bumper passenger side. I haven't even put my plates on yet!!:mad: To top it all off she lied to me and the officer and she doesnt have insurance. The damage seems like mostly paint chipping off. I'll post pics soon.

NYBladeZ 04-29-2012 05:17 PM

I don't know how you Canadians deal with it, but here your insurance company should take care of you and then sue her personally. Also driving without insurance is a misdemeanor in NY if my memory recalls properly.

Z-Girl 12 04-29-2012 05:19 PM

Crap that so sucks!!!

PaulZ370 04-29-2012 05:20 PM

:shakes head: I feel for you Dude... These idiots are everywhere. Everytime I take out my baby somewhere and park it, I agonize over where to park it and who is around me... Then I watch it like a hawk till I leave the place...

MacLean 04-29-2012 05:22 PM

Man sorry to hear that. That stupid dumb BEEEEOUTCH.

AlanManouk 04-29-2012 06:50 PM

Yea im pretty pissed, paint chipped off :( and btw im in socal-LaCanada, police officer said shes gonna have to investigate whos at fault since the lady was lying saying it was my fault. Her family came saying they saw everything when no one was there.

NYBladeZ 04-29-2012 06:55 PM

Man, I hope the cop doesn't screw you on the police report that would blow.

MacLean 04-29-2012 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by AlanManouk (Post 1693015)
Yea im pretty pissed, paint chipped off :( and btw im in socal-LaCanada, police officer said shes gonna have to investigate whos at fault since the lady was lying saying it was my fault. Her family came saying they saw everything when no one was there.

Oh WTF...... Hope you told the cop that her family was not there & they just arrived & saw nothing. I know you mentioned that she does not have insurance, so hopefully she got a ticket for that. Hopefully this cop isn't stupid & will make the who*e pay for what she has done. Please keep us posted on what is going on. Once again sorry to hear the bad news.

Bucketlist2012 04-29-2012 06:57 PM

Alan....This is how I deal with these things....I know who I am , and I know what kind of people they are....They are liars and losers..

Sure it sucks and will be a PITA to deal with..But just remember, you are you, and they are losers for life..Liars, and people so stupid that they won't buy Insurance....I don't think they are broke and cannot afford it..i think they are the losers of society...Gum on my shoe..

So I am sorry this happened to you, but keep your head up and keep moving forward.

These losers will amount to nothing in life..Yes, i may sound harsh, but i am done dealing with losers, and i have no pity for them, especially when the family lies for them...

They are what is wrong with the world..You are not...So no matter what, you will come out on top.

mhcoss 04-29-2012 07:18 PM

I'm sorry man! this makes my bloid boil just thinking about it.

I once got hit by a bus while riding my bike and had the same sort of thing happen. Police report placed the blame on me. According to the cop i was 'lucky' to not receive a ticket

delusional 04-29-2012 07:35 PM

driving without insurance is illegal in all states isn't it?

Bucketlist2012 04-29-2012 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by delusional (Post 1693095)
driving without insurance is illegal in all states isn't it?

Unless you are an illegal..or live in California..

The people who do the right thing are punished and those that do the wrong thing are rewarded...

It is illegal, but the one that has insurance is always punished and the loser walks....The california way..:icon14:

kenchan 04-29-2012 08:28 PM

people just suck.. :mad: sorry to hear, op. :(

PapoZalsa 04-29-2012 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulZ370 (Post 1692887)
:shakes head: I feel for you Dude... These idiots are everywhere. Everytime I take out my baby somewhere and park it, I agonize over where to park it and who is around me... Then I watch it like a hawk till I leave the place...

:iagree:

LakeShow 04-29-2012 08:37 PM

That's sucks! You have a pic of the damage?

MacCool 04-29-2012 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by NYBladeZ (Post 1693025)
Man, I hope the cop doesn't screw you on the police report that would blow.

Obviously it won't affect the insurance disbursement since she doesn't have any. Let play out, your insurance cover it, then sue her in small claims court.

AlanManouk 04-29-2012 08:51 PM

Yea the thing that bothers me the most is that i finally got the car and already got hit with a thousand miles on it. I was babying it and following all the break in rules. As far as the cop goes she said we might be both at fault which pissed me off but i explained the whole situation and i have a feeling that shell report the other lady at fault

AlanManouk 04-29-2012 08:54 PM

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Here is a picture of the damage :shakes head:

PaulZ370 04-29-2012 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by AlanManouk (Post 1693179)
Yea the thing that bothers me the most is that i finally got the car and already got hit with a thousand miles on it. I was babying it and following all the break in rules. As far as the cop goes she said we might be both at fault which pissed me off but i explained the whole situation and i have a feeling that shell report the other lady at fault

How in the heck can you be at fault to any degree if she reversed into you?

AlanManouk 04-29-2012 09:14 PM

She lied to the cop and supposedly had witnesses, if anything i had witnesses. The cop claimed my witnesses were family and friends. I really hope the cop understood my side at least you can tell of how the impact was that she is at fault..

PaulZ370 04-29-2012 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by AlanManouk (Post 1693184)
Here is a picture of the damage :shakes head:

Looking at the picture, I got some good news for you - that's a plastic bumper cover that you can replace easily. The Body shop orders a new Bumper Cover, paints it white - and with the car being new, the paint should match perfectly - and then replace the existing one with the new one. It's so easy to remove, you can replace it yourself even. Two screws, one in each wheel well, then a few clips on top, and some screws on the bottom for the plastic cover and the nose is off...

Now, the trick is, making sure the police report is factual and accurate, and have them pay for it...

AlanManouk 04-29-2012 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulZ370 (Post 1693213)
Looking at the picture, I got some good news for you - that's a plastic bumper cover that you can replace easily. The Body shop orders a new Bumper Cover, paints it white - and with the car being new, the paint should match perfectly - and then replace the existing one with the new one. It's so easy to remove, you can replace it yourself even. Two screws, one in each wheel well, then a few clips on top, and some screws on the bottom for the plastic cover and the nose is off...

Now, the trick is, making sure the police report is factual and accurate, and have them pay for it...


Yea hopefully thanks for the info, just sucks to have an accident reported so early of the cars life and i dont want it to effect the price of the car either

LakeShow 04-29-2012 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulZ370 (Post 1693213)
Looking at the picture, I got some good news for you - that's a plastic bumper cover that you can replace easily. The Body shop orders a new Bumper Cover, paints it white - and with the car being new, the paint should match perfectly - and then replace the existing one with the new one. It's so easy to remove, you can replace it yourself even. Two screws, one in each wheel well, then a few clips on top, and some screws on the bottom for the plastic cover and the nose is off...

Now, the trick is, making sure the police report is factual and accurate, and have them pay for it...

+1 :iagree: It appears to only be bumper so worst case scenario you can replace it yourself and it's easy. You could also get a Nismo or alternate front bumper if you want to or planned to change it to look at it in a positive way. Good luck hope things work out.

MacLean 04-29-2012 10:14 PM

The photo doesn't look too bad, but you know it is there. To make it a little less noticeable have you tried to wax out the scuff marks? By doing this you might reduce the visibility anywhere form 40-60%.

MattP725 04-29-2012 10:41 PM

Unfortunately with an uninsured driver the end result is that your insurance will be paying regardless... still she should have been getting some sort of ticket for not having valid insurance... if she is able to walk from that regardless of fault then the whole process is pretty messed up.

SS66 04-30-2012 07:51 AM

I really cannot tell if the bumper is dented etc. I would buy some fine liquid polishing compund and rub the scuffs out by hand. The pic looks like it would be an easy clean up?

MacCool 04-30-2012 08:09 AM

What the cop thinks makes no difference whatsoever. He/she can only report on their observations and witness statements. What will matter to your insurance company is your report on the accident, and the other person's report. They'll then investigtate and determine who was at fault, but the only significance of that is whether they consider it to be a chargeable accident (if your fault - therefore maybe a rate increase) or a non-chargeable accident.

As to who pays in the end, you can sue her for your deductable or other expenses, but as to the actual loss, that's the insurance company's problem. They can sue her if they feel they have a case, but you don't even have to be involved.

SS66 04-30-2012 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by MacCool (Post 1693741)
What the cop thinks makes no difference whatsoever. He/she can only report on their observations and witness statements. What will matter to your insurance company is your report on the accident, and the other person's report. They'll then investigtate and determine who was at fault, but the only significance of that is whether they consider it to be a chargeable accident (if your fault - therefore maybe a rate increase) or a non-chargeable accident.

As to who pays in the end, you can sue her for your deductable or other expenses, but as to the actual loss, that's the insurance company's problem. They can sue her if they feel they have a case, but you don't even have to be involved.

Bingo. The cops can only report what is said to them. Insurance companies will have the final say on partial or all fault by the parties. The officer in most or all cases is not a witness to the accident.

kenchan 04-30-2012 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by AlanManouk (Post 1693184)
Here is a picture of the damage :shakes head:

wow that sucks. i would have the bumper replaced and repainted. dont touch the damage until your insurance claims adjuster sees it and makes full estimate. then you can do watever you want.

i would go ahead and have a good bodyshop start the work right away, pay the deductible and have your insurance agent talk to the girl's insurance (If she doesnt have one, have her parent's insurance cover it, sue them if needed) for your deductible reimbursement.

if you dont want to go through with the process i think you can get most of the scratches out with polish and re-form the bumper with PDR. the paint that chipped off can be fixed for pretty cheap at your dealer probably, using their mobile touchup contractor for used cars.

anyway gl with the repairs. chin up. :)

Montez 04-30-2012 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SS66 (Post 1693715)
I really cannot tell if the bumper is dented etc. I would buy some fine liquid polishing compund and rub the scuffs out by hand. The pic looks like it would be an easy clean up?

Yup, might have a chip or 2 on the edge but will look much better. After the adjuster looks at it and takes photos of it that's what I would do, I always dread getting parts repainted if I don't have to....Especially Pearl white as it can be a tough match sometimes.

kidkotic2001 04-30-2012 09:27 PM

Damn dude that sucks I live near the boarder and we have a lot of those uninsured motorists.

Don't touch the damage until the adjuster sees it that way they can go ahead and see the full damage. The good news is that it does not look that bad but you know its there and it will bother you until you fix it.

AlanManouk 05-16-2012 09:42 PM

I just got the police report. The police wrote she is unable to tell whos at fault cause of the witnesses and the girls bs. My plan at this point is to go to Nissan and ask what the repair process is and where it could be done. Ill get an estimate and ask her to pay it to me without getting insurance and other legal subject involved.

MacLean 05-16-2012 10:53 PM

That sounds like a good plan, but I wouldn't hold my breath on it. If it doesn't go as plan, then I would take it to the next level.

Versa_Drifter 05-17-2012 07:03 AM

Id just sue her.if she doesnt have the money for insurance, she d probably wont pay u.

kidkotic2001 05-17-2012 01:47 PM

I would just sue her straight up. If she did not have insurance she will not pay you, plus I bet she thinks its not her fault.

vividracing 05-17-2012 01:59 PM

Do you guys think that a lawsuit is going to make her pay? If she's driving without insurance and lying to the police, she's not likely to pay.

MattP725 05-17-2012 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by vividracing (Post 1724531)
Do you guys think that a lawsuit is going to make her pay? If she's driving without insurance and lying to the police, she's not likely to pay.

:iagree:

File with your company and sue her for the deductible... bumper replacement and paint will be around $1k I guarantee it.

You might not get the deductible but you can at least try.

MacLean 05-17-2012 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MattP725 (Post 1724654)
:iagree:

File with your company and sue her for the deductible... bumper replacement and paint will be around $1k I guarantee it.

You might not get the deductible but you can at least try.

+1....... :iagree: I would find a way to make the BEEEEEOUTCH suffer. If you have all of her info (address, drivers license & car) get that to your insurance company. I would definitely explain the whole thing to them & hopefully they can go after this POS girl.

kidkotic2001 05-18-2012 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by MacLean (Post 1724807)
+1....... :iagree: I would find a way to make the BEEEEEOUTCH suffer. If you have all of her info (address, drivers license & car) get that to your insurance company. I would definitely explain the whole thing to them & hopefully they can go after this POS girl.

:iagree:

AlanManouk 05-23-2012 06:59 PM

I ended up going to my nearest nissan (not the one i purchased from) and getting an estimate. It was a body shop that works with the nissan dealership. He said the repaint and replacement of the light with labor is about $1800. The 3 stage paint on the bumper is not oem paint but close and will match. He told me he can clean up the light bulb for $75 adding a clear coat on and cleaning up most of the bumper with touch up paint for 30. Its basically my choice which route to take pocket it or get it done. I just don't know if its really worth painting the bumper since most cleans off and the car is new same for the light.


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