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yep, GTR + AMS Alpha 9 package ($25k) and that's all you'll ever need.
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looking more and more like just sticking with the GTR after a few PMs that i have gotten.
i looked up the lotus boards pretty heavy over the last few hours and to do what Frank did in Cali takes Uber $$$ and it breaks a ton. |
any sexy body kits like the fortune with that scooped out side panel for the Z. I think i am getting things narrowed down here pretty well.
Let me thank each and every one of you for helping in this discussion. I know its not over yet but you all are great ! |
I say go for the Z build..... because you can. I'd go for lightweight and balanced instead of all out power though. Maybe use the 370Z Nismo RC as your inspiration, but with a bit more grunt.
There are plenty of body kit's around, or if you're truly dedicated, have a custom kit made. Find a good enough shop and they can pretty much make anything for you want in the visual department. I kind of like the 'sleeper' look though. These look pretty bad-*** too. http://www.forcegt.com/wp-content/up...an-370Z-02.jpg http://www.veilsidejpn.com/menu/report/z34f.jpg http://www.z1auto.com/Images/varis370zfront.jpg |
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The drawback to the Rx is low torque to hp ratio. But... boost and handling capability keeps the car crazy fun. |
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Rx7 is a serious money pit. But you don't buy them to save money. I had a crapload of issues with mine. I hit hard times for a year so I just sold her. |
To get you into the RX-7 mood, sad ending though.
Stance:Nation – Form > Function 500+ HP Mazda RX7 // The Ups & Downs. |
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500 crank HP is a baby cam, intake and exhaust away ($2000-ish). 500 WHP would take some decent heads (probably $1000 for re-done 5.3L or LS6 heads), a different cam, and intake manifold ($400ish). So we're up to about $4000ish to get to 500 WHP in a 15 year old motor, and it'll do it reliably. I don't think there is a better performance bang-for-the-buck out there, except MAYBE the 2JZ-GTE...and the platform it rides in costs a fortune. You rotor-heads need to get real lol...the concept was neat, but its such a terrible motor to mod and actually depend on...oh, and lets not forget that the putting an LSX in the FD IMPROVES the F/R weight distribution since the 13B is a veritable boat anchor :) |
How is 150 not "too much top speed" No "back road" is suitable for 150mph... you sound nuts.
Take your gtr to the track and go enjoy yourself there. |
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Wanting to do those kinds of speeds on public roads is friggin' crazy, and stupid. |
I hit 150 on the interstates heading home after running. You are all right 150 one curve is suicide - my apologies to all.
So progressing farther - LS 1 rx 7 - or GTM 370z |
But to the gentleman "unknown". - the hp to torque ratio is fixed via the 3 rotor 20b - has anyone seen a 26b in a FD???
Would be cool to go alpha 9 and 370z. The brothers unite |
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Get an old 260 and tub it out to put some bigger meat out back and do the LSX conversion on it. A guy here used to have one years ago that thing was insane!!! He always brought it out to AutoX.
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Years ago I saw a shop drop in a 2JZ-GTE Supra engine into an RX7. That thing was a beast! 550-700HP is nothing for the 2JZ motor. Just an idea.
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you have a freaking GTR man!!! forget the back roads
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You can get a fresh build motor for around 1k. 13b should be all you need twin turbo up grade, bigger cooler and the normal bolt ons will net you 500 whp. Heck my 93 R1 was at 350 whp and it is the fastest best handling car I have owned or driven to date. Easy as crap to work on. You can lift the motor with one hand. Take just seconds to get to 160 mph. The pull of the twin turbos is the bomb! I need to get another one. That car was so bad that I would race people with cruise control! |
Do you have a budget in mind? Anything can be done if you throw enough money at it.
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I would honestly take the money I would spend on buying and modding the 370 and put most of it into the GTR if i were you. That could be one BA car.
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gbrettin, man all four of the videos AWESOME.
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i personally, given the financial opportunity which you apparently have, would say fuk z's and fuk rx7's if i have the means to get an alpha kit for a '12 gtr. my mouth waters when i see a gtr with an alpha 12 kit. the power, launch, grip is insane. a 600whp gtr vs a 600whp z is a landslide win for the gtr (even on a roll) because of the aggressive gear ratios. the z just cannot compete, unless you are big on the raw sports car feel which i have to say is quite numb in the gtr. i don't own one but i did spend some time flying around in a friend's gtr and it is to me like some reviewers say is quite numb and disconnected from the road, like you're in a videogame. the only issue is that you lose the rwd, which would be an issue for me since i love getting slideways. but then again, i could probably afford a drift-tuned s14 on the side if i have the means for a modded gtr. my 2 cents
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If I had a chytload of money, and I was going to mod something that cost under 100k? It would be a DIiNAN 1M, M3, a corvette Z-06 or porsche cayman R. Getting over 150mph in any of those cars stock wouldn't be an issue. Especially the vette considering its a 193mph, car stock, a 205mph car as a Z06 and a 220mph car as the ZR1.
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The 1M is clean, but I would prefer the M3 which is just bada**. I'm not a Vetter guy. I love the Cayman R & just stock is effen sweet & very quick. |
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I would save up for lawyer and insurance
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I would build the Z. The GTR is fast and an engineering marvel but if you are looking for that visceral "feel" of driving a manual sports car then you should go ahead and build the Z. As others have mentioned it is not cheap and the fact that you have a GTR already means you will likely not be happy with a fully bolt on and tuned Z. I say grab a m6 Z, base + sport, S/C it or TT and enjoy.
On the Lotus, the twin charged Lotus belongs to a retired NYC cab driver who goes by Ronin, it started out as an Elise and has heavy work done on it. The guy is a complete tool, one of the rudest guys I've ever run into on any internet forum, as karma would have it he recently was allegedly tapped in the rear by a Porsche, spun out and hit a highway barrier, condition of the car is currently unknown. |
I think what you want is an Ariel Atom...
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Didn't read the whole thread so sorry if this is a repeat. If you're pushing that much hp don't you think an AWD would be ideal? I would just consider putting the money you're considering spending into your GTR. Either way I'm very interested to see whatever build you do!
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OP, maybe since you already have a GT car, you should take a look into some of these track day specials. Just to have best of two different worlds. |
exo 10 would **** on all
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To the OP, If I were looking to spend 50-65K on a car to have some fun on the back roads, I would look into the Ariel Atom also... 0-60 in 2.9 and weighs only 1350 lbs, with that kind of power to weight ratio, you wouldn't even need to touch the motor! :happydance:
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Amongst 99% of local car people I run into, no one wants to talk power to weight ratio just HOOOORSEEEPOOOOOWER! Those convos never go well for me.
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final decision was a complicated one. but here is what we are going with. ordered an Atom and doing a 2jz-FD swap which will finish out at 700 whp. Thank you all for all the help and the PM's from those who got a little more detailed with their descriptions!!! The Z will be next - probably 6 months or so - I'll post pics as they finish
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2jz in an atom?? Do you need.that much power? Is it even controllable?
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You have a GTR.
Some people have all the fun. |
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no no a 2jz FD RX 7 the ariel atom will remain stock - so its 2 cars
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