New 2012 or Used 2009
 

I'm getting a 370z this week and am torn between 2 different cars. New 2012 Sport, Touring with Navigation or a Used 2009 Sport w/o Nav with only 3500 miles on it. I obviously want the new vehicle, but there is about a $10,000 difference between the 2 cars. I would have to add an aftermarket nav unit to the 2009 and get some scratches fixed on it as well. This will narrow the price difference to about 7k. I know it's a personal decision but does anyone who already owns one have any input on what would make a 2012 with Nav/camera 7k better than the used one?

Thanks for the input and thoughts!

I would get the new 370Z hands down. The reason is that you are the first owner & there should only be b/w 6-30 miles on the car. Another thing is that Nissan is offering a 0% interest up to 60 months on any 370Z & 2.99% interest for 72 months. Yeah the '09 does have low miles, but what would your interest rate be?

12 will come with the factory oil cooler, plus the other minor updates that have happened since the 09.

i'd go with the 12 (for all the reasons the above poster said too!)

If you happen to go with the 09 make sure it has the new steering wheel lock.

If modding and personal car improvement like body kits and such are things you are interested in doing? Get the used... if you are going to do very minimal modding and just want a nice stock car. Go NEW. You'll have more mod money that way if u want mods.

if you gonna keep it stock, get the 12. modding it? get the 09. the Z is a solid car either way.

Get the 12 with 0%, say you financed 35,000 at 4.5% you would be paying $4,150 in interest. Used car rates are higher as well even though you wouldn't finance as much. So at this point you're a couple grand cheaper to buy a car that's about to be 4 model years old. Regardless of the miles the resale on the 12 will make up that difference, if you want one more reason there's the entire warranty left on the new car; if you buy a used car warranty with 3/36K bumper to bumper no deductible it'll cost a couple grand.

No brainer, go with the '12 if you can afford to...fully loaded and 3 years new for only 10k more? Uh, yeah sign me up

He could probably get a better interest rate than that barring he has good credit. I got my used 2010 a year ago for around 2.4% for 72 months and I got the Nissan Wrap 100K bumper to bumper warranty for around $1,100 extra.

Just using that as a middle of the road rate, deductible on your warranty or no?

Gotcha. No I have no deductible

My 09 is fine but $7,000 and no warranty, 2012 is the safer choice.

Thanks to all for your input. I won't be doing many mods so it appears as if the 2012 is going to win!! There is a lot said regarding peace of mind as the only owner and although the "upgrades" from 2009 to 2012 are not significant (accept maybe the oil cooler, which I will have to research a little more) they are nice to have...

I'd go for the 2012 too. Don't all the new ones come with the backup camera too? That could come in handy for tighter areas, since our rear visibility isn't good at all. Also, the factory oil cooler would probably be adequate for spirited everyday driving without having to worry about the oil temp gauge. I have a 2nd hand 09 with no issues, but the peace of mind from a new car is worth a lot.

There's nothing like the brand new smell knowing you're the very first driver

although... sales guys always take joy rides in "new" cars too. :rofl2:

Its a $700 option. Its not standard and its been an OPTION sine 2010: Its just most dealers just have it in there lately because of the popularity of the product due to the majority of people not knowing how to back up a damn car. But most are paying for the part.:tup:

get the 09'. $7k is a significant amount to save, and from I've heard aftermarket nav systems are better then the factory one anyway. I have an 09' with over 25k miles and have pretty much zero issues.

I still would rather have the '12 with anywhere from 6-30 miles on it than a used car with XXXX miles on it. It is easier to say that the '12 was treated well with only having such low miles on it, but the used Z could always be very questionable.

I have it on my Nismo & it is worth it.

I'm the opposite. I for one would never by a new car. I'd prefer to buy something fully warrantied that's 1-2 years old with a clean Carfax. I like saving thousands and thousands of dollars :) but to each their own. It sounds like you won't go wrong with either choice. It's your decision and you have to live with it so get what makes you happiest.

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The price difference is more than what the OP listed. The second he drives off of the dealer's lot he's probably lost $5,000 because now it's a used 2012 370Z.

A 2009 with 3,500 miles on it is practically a new car - without a new car price.

I bought a used 2009 touring sport last august with about the same miles and I haven't looked back. I would say, don't buy a 2009 base, get the touring and you will still get it significantly cheaper than a 2012. If you can afford it though and money isn't tight, get the new.

My biggest issue is value. I know the 2009 is the least expensive now and the 2012 will depreciate as soon as I drive off the lot,but the 2009 is around 2k over edmunds value and I have to pay tax on it when I register the car. The 2012 is an after tax price which puts it right at invoice. Not to mention the few updates that were mentioned above. I think the 2012 is calling my name! :driving:

P.S.
I have heard many different opinions about a factory nav and aftermarket nav, but I don't think I could go "wrong" with the factory nav.

Thanks for the input and discussion!

Edmonds is such a joke. Nobody will ever find a dealership to agree to an Edmunds price lol

Its on my Z as well. It came with it. I didn't pay for it. It was basically a throw in. I barely glance at it. Once the mirrors are positioned properly you can back up fine without the cam.

I personally am always sketched out when I see a used car with thatttt low of miles on it. I would go new.
Same principle for trying to find a virgin wife lol

Low miles and a clean car fax sketches you out??? So what's the criteria for a used car? High miles with a list of issues so the dealer can say we sorted em' out???

I bought my 09 used and my 11 brand new with 4600 miles. The only thing my 09 needed was synthetic. If anything, my 09 felt more raw than my newer, slightly quieter and softer suspensioned 11:

If you're paying cash you're 100% correct if you're financing on the other hand with the 0% available you're not saving as much as you think. If you're looking at 11's you may end up paying more for the used one in the long run.

Buy the used version if you are a bit of a penny pincher and can accept the fact that someone else shaped the seat before you-. "OR" Buy the new version if you like to spoil yourself and need to know without a doubt that you popped her cherry before anyone else could ever touch her. :yum:

Of course, but even those 6-30 miles could have been hard abused miles, just saying, you never know what the dealership sales people do when they "take it out to fill up the tank" I was actually questionable about my 41 miles when I bought mine. :rolleyes: :icon17:

New =)

You'll be happier you did!

Yeah true.....so very true. I see where your coming from, but I wouldn't think that they would redline through every gear if at all. They may get on it, but hopefully not abuse it. That is why if you thought that way, then you would baby her until you reached 1,200 miles, or until you felt comfortable to open her up. I wouldn't question the 10, 28, or 44 miles that are on it, but the big mileage (XXXX) on it would be more questionable on how she was driven & what was done on the effen road.

am i the only one who doesnt get all excited about the sport package? I dont like the 19 inch wheels at all, not a big fan of the spoiler, i heard the Bose speakers are nothing special and the bluetooth sucks, Brakes are better and LSD is useless for the most part.

So basically it is a POS? Having the 19's is better than having the 18's.

ya well if youre gonna keep the car stock the sport package is worth it, but i prefer aftermarket 19 inch wheels with a little more dish than those ugly 19 inch forged wheels.

I find that hard to believe. He could get a '12 Z that has been test driven to the ground. It's easy to tell someone else to spend on your decision but I personally would not buy brand new either, as someone else mentioned above. Buying used, the savings are great (assuming his rate isn't crazy), you get a car that still smells new, regardless of what everyone is saying.

Let's face it, the car is reliable and someone mashing in it won't necessarily make or break the car. It will have had an inherent issue from the factory. Just stating how real life works.

His point is some of the extra amenities are subjective to one's liking. You might like the 19's he might not.

I personally <3 the 19's but I don't plan on changing the base rims to anything. Never was my intention before I bought the car.

I would get the '09 personally. There is nothing on the new car that makes it worth the $10,000 more you'll be paying.
Spend the $600 (approx)total for a decent oil cooler and install, and you'll only really need it if you spend a lot of time driving it hard or put it on the track. I'm not sure what the issue is with the steering wheel lock as I have an '09 and have had no issues with the steering wheel in any way.
Spend the $1200 on a full detail service (not the crappy dealer service!) that finishes with a high quality sealant.
The 3,000 miles on the car tells me one thing, it's broken in! Be on the safe side and get the carfax report on it first.