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drisko 06-08-2009 05:42 PM

Windows Rolling Down on their own!
 
Just wondering if anyone else had this problem:

I did not use my car at all on Saturday and Sunday. It was raining on Friday and I came home with the windows all the way rolled up, as I usually do anyways even if it is not raining. I just got up this morning to find both my windows were rolled down by the EXACT same amount! I then remembered that last week my friend noticed that my driver's side window was rolled down a crack while my car was parked outside. I didn't think much of it...just thought I forgot to roll it up all the way, but now I'm thinking it is some electrical glitch.

Luckily, my car is parked in a garage! Otherwise, I would be pissed.

khtso 06-08-2009 05:44 PM

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...were-down.html

nogoodname 06-08-2009 05:57 PM

did you by chance disconnect the battery recently...if so


start the car, press down 20 seconds and then up for 20 seconds


give it a try even if you didnt disconnect, it's a window reset

Attaboy 06-08-2009 06:20 PM

if you had your keyfob in your pocket and the unlock button was by chance mashed down for a while your windows would have rolled down on their own. I did this one day after coming home, parking, then working in the yard. I heard the car beep and unlock, then the windows rolled down shortly after. I then realized that while I was pulling weeds the junk in my pocket had inadvertently mashed the unlock button.

fortunately i was aware that holding the unlock button for a time would make this happen, otherwise i would have freaked.

Robert_Nash 06-08-2009 06:46 PM

Many Nissan vehicles, the Z included, will roll the passenger windows down if the "unlock" tab on the fob it depressed for a few seconds (probably 5-10) and if you keep holding the tab, the windows will roll completely down (my M45 does the same with all four side windows).

That's likely what happened here.

Also, some of you may not realize that you can put all windows up by using the key in the door lock; turn the key to the lock position for a few seconds and hold it there and the windows will roll up...convenient if you want to roll up your windows without messing with the ignition/starting the vehicle. :)

fly yellow 06-08-2009 07:35 PM

I didn't know the fob could do all that. I was thinking you got one of the limited edition haunted Zs.

zZSportZz 06-08-2009 07:39 PM

HAHAH, these threads crack me up...because most Nissan owners have been there =)

First time it happened to me was in my Titan. Kept coming outside at the office to find my windows rolled down. Freaked me out. Thought someone was messing with me and had a key. Come to find out, it was the fob being depressed in my pocket LOL....

drisko 06-08-2009 07:40 PM

Thanks guys. Didn't know the key fob could do that. Maybe that is what happened because i have never disconnected the battery.

nogoodname 06-08-2009 07:42 PM

now you know what to do if you ever disconnect it...lol....

zZSportZz 06-08-2009 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by drisko (Post 87239)
Thanks guys. Didn't know the key fob could do that. Maybe that is what happened because i have never disconnected the battery.

The Z fob is about 10000 times more sensitive than the Titan one. I cannot keep it in my pocket in the office....its impossible. I've had the windows down, the horn blaring due to the panic button...lol.

Its a good thing I park right outside my office window.

Minicobra1 06-08-2009 08:02 PM

Same thing happened to me, twice :tup: including the panic alarm going off :icon17: I try and take my key out of my pocket and put it on my desk when I'm at home. Apparently it has a pretty good range. hasn't happened since.

Robert_Nash 06-08-2009 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by fly yellow (Post 87237)
I didn't know the fob could do all that. I was thinking you got one of the limited edition haunted Zs.

If you are referring to the windows rolling up keep in mind that you have to use the "key" inside of the fob and the actual door lock...no haunting or supernatural phenomenon required. :)

Josh@STILLEN 06-08-2009 10:16 PM

Even on my '04.. the panic button does tend to go once in a while.. Awesome too as in my parking spot, I'm about 5 feet from our accounting department and a desk that backs up to the window.. OOPS! :D

Diversion 06-09-2009 12:01 AM

Wish we could remotely put the windows up.. Or give the car some logic:

If windows are down, engine off and you get out and walk too far away that the windows go up automatically... ya know? Or holding the lock button on the fob can roll them up all the way.. I'm sure Nissan felt there are some safety issues with the idea and thats why you can't do it.. but c'mon..

Someone get to work and make it happen!

Josh@STILLEN 06-09-2009 12:12 AM

Agreed.. they have responsive sensors in them already.. auto-up windows have to have sensors so it doesn't keep going if you cram your fingers in there..

Although I can't say I've tested it.. seems you'd need "jackass" type courage to go for that.. haven't seen the need.

Anyone tested the window motors out?

Robert_Nash 06-09-2009 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Diversion (Post 87418)
Wish we could remotely put the windows up.. Or give the car some logic:

If windows are down, engine off and you get out and walk too far away that the windows go up automatically... ya know? Or holding the lock button on the fob can roll them up all the way.. I'm sure Nissan felt there are some safety issues with the idea and thats why you can't do it.. but c'mon..

Someone get to work and make it happen!

It's been done - I saw a module installed at ZDayZ back in '05 (with a 350 of course).

I don't know if the circuitry for the windows in the 370 has actually changed from the 350 or not but I doubt it has changed much.

Unfortunately I have no idea what company did those modifications/who created the module to make it work...they same guys also had a module that made the VDC a manual option; in other words, if you had it turned "off" it stayed off until you turned it back on or if it ws "on" it stayed "on" until you turned it off (rather than always defaulting to "on" every time you start the vehicle).

CBRich 06-09-2009 08:34 AM

It sounds to me like you're talking about KPTechnologies.

jakoye 06-09-2009 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert_Nash (Post 87203)
Many Nissan vehicles, the Z included, will roll the passenger windows down if the "unlock" tab on the fob it depressed for a few seconds (probably 5-10) and if you keep holding the tab, the windows will roll completely down (my M45 does the same with all four side windows).

What's the usefulness of this "feature"? Seems more annoying to inadvertently roll down your windows for the small gain of having this ability. I can think of few reasons why I'd want to roll down my windows remotely (well, none come to mind, actually!).

Perhaps the key fob should have a "lock" setting so that any inadvertent button pushes would be ignored (like on a cellphone). That way you can put it in your pocket and not have to worry about auto-magically rolling down your windows.

semtex 06-09-2009 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diversion (Post 87418)
Wish we could remotely put the windows up.. Or give the car some logic:

If windows are down, engine off and you get out and walk too far away that the windows go up automatically... ya know? Or holding the lock button on the fob can roll them up all the way.. I'm sure Nissan felt there are some safety issues with the idea and thats why you can't do it.. but c'mon..

Someone get to work and make it happen!

One safety issue to consider with a remote auto-up feature is that a person might have the windows down because s/he has a pet inside or something. If they accidentally close the windows, then the result could be a convection-roasted Fido. And of course, Nissan would probably get sued. So not having remote up may ultimately have as much to do with lawsuit avoidance as it does with a real concern for safety.

CBRich 06-09-2009 10:12 AM

The KPTech link I posted earlier does have the roll-up feature for most Nissans. I posted in their forum to ask about testing this and some other things on the 370Z.

Robert_Nash 06-09-2009 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jakoye (Post 87538)
What's the usefulness of this "feature"? Seems more annoying to inadvertently roll down your windows for the small gain of having this ability. I can think of few reasons why I'd want to roll down my windows remotely (well, none come to mind, actually!).

Perhaps the key fob should have a "lock" setting so that any inadvertent button pushes would be ignored (like on a cellphone). That way you can put it in your pocket and not have to worry about auto-magically rolling down your windows.

I could say something cutting such as "anyone who can't operate a key fob properly shouldn't be driving anything, much less a performance/sports car" but I'll refrain from that. :)

I've always carried my key fob in my pocket and have for as long as there has been key fobs...there have been times when I've hit a key (like the panic button) without intending to but I've never done so while the fob was in my pocket!

Personally, I like the feature a great deal - when I'm still quite a distance away, I can roll down my windows and start airing out the cabin and thereby reduce some of the heat build-up that has happened while I've been in the office, etc...not an unimportant feature when "cool" summer days here means the temp has stayed below 96 degrees!

Really, this feature (or something similar) has been available on many higher-end cars (BMW, Audie, etc) for many years...I don't see why it would be a cause for consternation for anyone and I suspect that if it were deleted, there would be no end of complaints about Nissan being cheep and not having a feature everyone else has. :tiphat:

jakoye 06-09-2009 11:39 AM

That was about the only idea I could think of for having this feature: airing out the car a bit before one got to it. I wonder how many people actually USE this feature as you do (compared to how many owners aren't even aware it exists!)?

It's definitely new to me. No Audis or BMWs in my garage in the last couple years. :p

Robert_Nash 06-09-2009 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jakoye (Post 87636)
That was about the only idea I could think of for having this feature: airing out the car a bit before one got to it. I wonder how many people actually USE this feature as you do (compared to how many owners aren't even aware it exists!)?

It's definitely new to me. No Audis or BMWs in my garage in the last couple years. :p

I'm sure many people don't know but if people won't bother to read their owner's manual and learn about their car's features; what is a manufacturer to do? :)

jakoye 06-09-2009 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert_Nash (Post 87670)
I'm sure many people don't know but if people won't bother to read their owner's manual and learn about their car's features; what is a manufacturer to do? :)

The only answer is neon. Preferably flashing! :)

Love that picture of your pup in the front seat. Co-pilot!

Robert_Nash 06-09-2009 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jakoye (Post 87677)
The only answer is neon. Preferably flashing! :)

Love that picture of your pup in the front seat. Co-pilot!

Thanks...she's my girl!

That pic was taken at ZAttack8 this year in Nashville at the Nissan Americas new headquarters building...something really had her attention as she was definitely focused on something!

wstar 06-09-2009 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert_Nash (Post 87608)

Personally, I like the feature a great deal - when I'm still quite a distance away, I can roll down my windows and start airing out the cabin and thereby reduce some of the heat build-up that has happened while I've been in the office, etc...not an unimportant feature when "cool" summer days here means the temp has stayed below 96 degrees!

Me too. It's pretty much habit now that summer heat is here. If I park my Z in the sun somewhere (like out to lunch), the first thing I do on my way out of the restaurant/store is hold down that button and get the windows unrolled so that the car's interior cools off by the time I make my way to the car.

kraphy 02-01-2010 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Attaboy (Post 87184)
if you had your keyfob in your pocket and the unlock button was by chance mashed down for a while your windows would have rolled down on their own. I did this one day after coming home, parking, then working in the yard. I heard the car beep and unlock, then the windows rolled down shortly after. I then realized that while I was pulling weeds the junk in my pocket had inadvertently mashed the unlock button.

fortunately i was aware that holding the unlock button for a time would make this happen, otherwise i would have freaked.

This was so friggin helpful. The windows being down happened for the second time and I was starting to frik out. :tup: +1!

yubman 02-01-2010 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kraphy (Post 383714)
This was so friggin helpful. The windows being down happened for the second time and I was starting to frik out. :tup: +1!


Just a question. Were the doors also unlocked? I believe (haven't checked yet since it's freaking freezing outside) that when you hold the unlock button down, the doors unlock, and if you continue to hold the button the windows then roll down.

So if the doors were still locked, but the windows down could it be a problem?

I only ask as I was previously thinking of getting a Mini Cooper before finding the Z a much better fit for me, and one problem that keeps cropping up in the Mini forums were that the windows would roll down by themselves. Turns out that manytimes a switch in the door would get wet and roll the windows down, usually in a rain storm.

A link to the Mini forum for refrence to thier window problems:
MINI COOPER :: North American Motoring - Windows opened during the night!?!?!

OldGuy 02-01-2010 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert_Nash (Post 87203)
Many Nissan vehicles, the Z included, will roll the passenger windows down if the "unlock" tab on the fob it depressed for a few seconds (probably 5-10) and if you keep holding the tab, the windows will roll completely down (my M45 does the same with all four side windows).

That's likely what happened here.

Also, some of you may not realize that you can put all windows up by using the key in the door lock; turn the key to the lock position for a few seconds and hold it there and the windows will roll up...convenient if you want to roll up your windows without messing with the ignition/starting the vehicle. :)

Is this the case for the Base model also, or only for the Touring?

semtex 02-01-2010 02:23 PM

What does your manual say? I would think it's true for Base as well.

Josh@STILLEN 02-01-2010 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yubman (Post 383781)
Just a question. Were the doors also unlocked? I believe (haven't checked yet since it's freaking freezing outside) that when you hold the unlock button down, the doors unlock, and if you continue to hold the button the windows then roll down.

So if the doors were still locked, but the windows down could it be a problem?

If you don't open either door, the car will re-lock itself after 30 seconds or so.. so yes, you can roll down the windows (whether intentionally or not), and come back to locked doors..

ChrisSlicks 02-01-2010 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by semtex (Post 384053)
What does your manual say? I would think it's true for Base as well.

Yes, it works on the Base as well.

OldGuy 02-02-2010 07:39 PM

Thank you.

magisky 02-03-2010 09:16 AM

A well installed viper alarm should let you remotely close your windows and open them along with remote start if you so choose. I had the 5501 system on my cooper s and it would only close the windows with the key in the door from the factory but with the alarm installed i could do it remotely. I was thinking about having the alarm installed on this car as well. The abilty to remotely start your car as well as pop the hatch roll up and down the windows and lock the remote so none of it happens on accident, seems nice. Not to mention the if you leave your Z running and get out with the key some one can drive off. With the viper system you can remotely turn the car off. Trust me on the drive off part I tested it with some friends.

P.S i was freaked the first time I came out to my car to find the windows cracked :shakes head:

Ronin06 05-14-2017 08:43 PM

It's really a stupid feature in my opinion. Accidentally hit the button in the office while in your pocket, come outside to a soaked car due to the rainstorm or if it's winter ice inside the car.

Rolling the windows up, sure. Down? What a #$% idea.


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