yea it would seem like it would be hard to prove in court. but when its your word against a law officer's in front of a judge, you never really get a fair shake lol. eh, ill just keep it to a 5 over max and try not to draw attention to myself!

This state. It sucks. Try as you might, you just can't make enough excuses for a state that takes in as much tax as LA does (I believe we are #25 for tax generated) and has the shittiest of everything. It's not for want of money.

Its so funny that our police can't recover our cars when they are stolen. When they break into your home? There is no budget to get prints to see if they can identify the thief. Domestic violence goes uncharged most of the time... They can't solve 90% of most ID theft even though there's a paper trail... human trafficking is a rampant problem and our little girls and sisters are being kidnapped and raped and taken for prrostition and these cases go unsolved... but our police can write the fk out of a ticket though. Million dollar aircaft. Multi million dollar camera systems?????. yeah ok. Its the biggest joke going. Police are profit mongers for politicians needing a fat pocket.

When I see them solving REAL CRIMES and "Truely Protecting" our citizens I will salute every police car I see... Its easier to write summonses and get paid than it is to solve true crime. They don't get promoted for solving cases. They get promoted for writing tickets.

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OH yes. is real!!! It might not happen in every Interestate but I seen it in Virginia.

I take it Vaughanbe13 hasn't been through the peoples republic of VA (DC, MD, PA, etc). All of the previously mentioned tactics are in play in those states. I am from Baltimore and I have seen the signs for "speed limit enforced by aircraft" in VA, the camera/pulse radar van in MD, the lines on the road in my grandmother's neighborhood and other areas along the east coast, and the friendly neighborhood state trooper hanging out in the middle of the highway pointing at folks to pull over. It is very real and if you do not have some good tech AND good sense, you will pay the fines! I mean if you are in a ZERO stoplight town, you maybe relatively safe, but in a city..............riiiiiiight!

You're kidding. State law enforcement agences use aircraft for speed enforcement all the time, and have been since the 50's. All they need is a Cessna, a stopwatch, and known distance lines (painted on, or temporary) on the highway.

I ******* HAAAAATTTEEE the wolfpack in North Vegas. one cop sits on an overpass with the gun (not in a car and you cant see his bike) and clocks people and then theres usually 6 to 10 bike cops on the entrance ramp on the other side of the overpass just waiting to zap you. its sooo dirty because you cant see them at all until theyre in your rearview and you've already been clocked.

Do they use LIDAR or radar?

Maybe if the speed limits were more reasonable...they were set at 65 back in the 50s..,maybe even sooner...someone may know ...but really they were set for a different time and place

The simple fact is that with the new pulsed k band radar or instant on systems, or laser speed detectors, the cop simply targets your car and you are not going to recieve a warning from your dector until its to late.

The only way you can hope that the current crop of detectors will help you is if they hopefully pick up some scattered or reflected signal or laser lite from the cops unit. Also the reception or recieving area of these dectors is very limited, specially with a laser speed gun.

Also most of the speed trap cops deploy their speed detection units in a way that radar/laser dectors can not respond in time, most go off once the cop already clocked you.

As for these websites that claim to evaluate the various detectors, most of these sights are not independent consumer testing centers, or at least a reputable car mag. Most have some direct tie to the dector manufactures.

Its like all the evaluations you see by supposed independent test sights on the internet for all the various infomercial scams on TV and when you look further into them and they are also selling the scam products.

You do realize gsxr750 that laser detectors require the cop to be stopped, out of the car and holding the device in his hand and "shooting" the car. If you use your eyes you can pick the cops are from a good distance, unless you are blind. Also, the instant on method is good, but the issue is if you use your eyes you can spot the cop before he can use this technique.

No is saying the radar detectors = no ticket, what it is a tool to help you avoid one. It is still on the driver to scan the road and use his senses, the radar detector is just an extension of that.

My detector sounds off way ahead of every cop i pass that is clocking people. Maybe around here cops are still using old detectors...

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The techniques gsxr is describing are used in very very limited fashion in most of the US. Some areas they use these heavily but most places do not have the budget or training for it. To be able to use the newer laser systems you have to be trained in it, it is not just a plug and play system.

Also, the instant on system is very tedious to use. I know cops who could use it, but instead they just roll around with the K-band on and still get people constantly. The effort to constantly be turning on/off the system and tricking people is not worth it for most, especially when they can go for five minutes and get a speeder.

Makes sense. My laser detector always sounds off for luxury cars....

That would be Inifiniti most of the time, which usually it is, that is the cruise control/guidance system they have which slows the car down automatically if they get to close to another car (it is very annoying). Audi's lane change assist runs on the k band I believe, but I have found if I am in front of the car it does not go off, it is just when I am directly behind one.

yes always infinitis!

we have a lot of humps in our inner city highways so the cops like to sit at the bottom of the hump, and hit ya right as your coming over the humps. i assume the hump would block any hits from the radar, as well as blocking your view of them until the last second.

as a side note, i gotta wonder how well these air tickets would hold up in court.

Seems like you're offended... maybe you didn't read the rest of my post?

With good radar detectors you get rebounds that occur, meaning they hit the car at the top of the hill and a few rebounds happen and someone behind might pick it up. With more modern laser technology there is much less, also because they aim for your front plate instead of any part of the car.

Thats intense. I know here in san antonio tx there was a hellicopter that would run our loop hitting people but only when they are really desperate. The troopers here arnt the nicest in the world. Its hard to get off a ticket.

Just visited one of the radar dector websites and they listed the effective range of the top of the line escort unit to be 1200 ft. or about 1/5th. of a mile. The cop basically already has you targeted, before you even know it.

This range of detection is a joke, with such a short range your basically going to be nailed almost every time by the cop setting up. If your doing 70-75 mph your going to cover that distance in only about 10-12 seconds, take into account human reaction time and having to slow down, results in beep "OH CRAP HE NAILED ME" .

In order to avoid detection you need to have the incoming signal being recieved at a far enough distance to avoid triggering the cops unit or pick up a signal bouncing off some other targeted car.

Your really need at least a 1/2 mile warning = 30 seconds minimum or hopefully a signal a mile away to really avoid getting ticketed.

"one" of the websites...? I know my 9500I gives me more than 10-12 seconds... matter of fact most of the time its before I can even see the cop. (I have enough time to look all around me as the signal strength increases) or maybe I am just losing it and imagining it going off before it really did...? :rolleyes:

my assumption is that something as expensive as the valentine one works or people wouldn't be buying em

yeah i have had it go off sometimes over 1/2 mile away

Please provide a source to where you read this "distance" number you acquired. I can throw out numbers also, but honestly it degrades the discussion. Valentine one does not give a direct range, but they rate they can double the distance of the next best radar (which is the escort 9500ix).

And yes, my V1 has gone off over 1/2 mile out many times.

And some quick reading the only place I could find 1200ft was for the traffic warning (speed traps, red light cameras, etc), I found the Escort 9500ix is rated a 1,200ft alert distance before arriving at a speed trap.

Edmunds Tech Test: Escort Passport 9500ix Radar and Laser Detector - Edmunds.com

Heres the link read it and weep: Escort RedLine radar detector review

The plan facts about these detectors is that the companies that make the speed enforcement equipment, drop in tons of money into developing these units supplied to goverment agencies and if you think some tinny little $400 dash mounted unit will protect you, then your truly dreaming.

Most ppl should remember that the Myth Busters covered this a couple years ago and they proved that all the detectors, jammers were simply didn't provide enough warning to avoid getting nailed.

I think your missing the point of these tools. They are not meant to be you protection but just an aid to help you while you drive. I don't rely on a radar detector; I rely on my eyes/common sense and the radar detector is backup.

All I know is my friend was about to lose his license because in his business he has to get there quick because it's 100's of thousands of dollars to his customers if he doesn't. He has a valentine one and it has saved him many times.... But, he has been caught still the same by pacing and aircraft technique as well as Lidar. They wait in the bushes (I've seen it), Lidar you, drive out behind you and pull you over. Generally, this is a motorcycle officer however, I have seen a squad car do this too.

I use the 10% rule... If I see any car I do not go over 10% faster than the speed limit unless I'm willing to get that ticket.

I do have a radar detector and it does help me with the photo / speed cameras. My GPS tells me the speed limit pretty accurately for a given area. So I don't get a ticket because I do not know the speed limit.

The last ticket I got was in a merge situation 50 in 45... Radar. This was over 10 years ago. The officer was sitting in left turn lane oposite direction. I had to speed up a little because this guy was not letting me in (squeezing me) and I was going to be forced to stop if I didn't... So, I speed up just enough to merge. The officer didn't care. Simple Speed Trap. That was before I bought the radar detector. Know what I know now and having a radar detector I would have still done the same thing out of fear of being rear ended by the the guy I was merging in front of or the guy right behind me trying to get over too.

Thank God for traffic school on that one. 0 points.

How much do I drive? Over 30K miles per year. I still believe your ticket allotment should be on how many miles you drive a year. Because the more you drive the more chance you have of getting a ticket.

Hope this helps someone.

Are you referring to the graph?
That graph is about photo (ie red light cameras), if you actually read the article you will find this sentence.

Are you referring to this episode? MythBusters (2004 season) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

What most cops are using in pulse ka or laser which can only be detected about 1/2 mile away or less, that 14 mile reading was probably an old style instant on radar, which could be detected 3 miles away even with cheap $50 detectors and if you look youtube video they posted its a commercial, take it at its value with all the adds for boner pills, weight and hair loss treatments out there.

Its really hard to deny the results the Myth Busters got a few years ago, can you provide independent test data that reputes, their findings.

Heres another link to a guy that tested some of the detectors read what he had to say. http://www.bendover.com/gmtquestion....=5&fldAuto=304

So you are referring to the link I provided to the MythBusters episode?

myth busters didn't test radar detectors though...according to Dreamer's link....

Try buying one and putting it in your car for a few months and come back and report what you have found. I bought one for each of my cars, and many of my friends have purchased them now as well after seeing first hand how often they can save you... You dont have any real facts IMO to back up why you think they dont work. Are you a cop?

Ssshhhh....waiting to see if he has realized they never tested radar detectors.

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:icon17: this is too funny

Well written :tiphat: I wish they could protect you from a speeding ticket because from time to time I do find myself keep up with the speeding traffic. At those times I'm in more of a risk then others in getting a ticket because of what I'm driving. The 370z does get noticed.

It's funny when I roll past an officer and know that I've been Lidar'd. You can see his smile turn to a frown because he didn't get this exotic that must have been speeding.

Be safe, Be kewl