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my2004Z 03-06-2012 02:03 PM

You will regret it. Nissan overall design, engineering and quality is simply better than Chevrolet's.

m4a1mustang 03-06-2012 02:06 PM

Wow.

TheGreatOne 03-06-2012 02:17 PM

Never realized how bad the interior was

I remember a member here having a blacked out Z06 on black rims and it looked mean, loved it. That interior would make it hard to sit inside compared to the 370

I would love to test drive one though

gsxr750 03-06-2012 02:35 PM

I almost bought a new 2012 C6 vette only 2 months , ago upon delivery idiot detailers scratched the entire clear coat of the car, cancelled deal and went across the street to nissan dealer and test drove the new pearl 2012 370z manual sport, I currently own.

I am very happy with the 370z prior to buying it I test drove all the high performance cars out in the $30-$55K and negleted to test drive the Z as I really wanted a V8 with 400hp plus, that is why I passed on test driving the 370z with only a V6 and 330hp.

I had test drove a challenger rt 375 hp and it was really a dog, but after driving the 370z I was sold on it, it just has to much classic styling, taste,refinement, and technical features that the american cars just don't have.

While I do sometimes regret not buying the 2012 vette, it goes away fast once I look at the 370z or drive it.

I've owned 2 corvettes in my life a 1987 C4 and a 2002 Z06 ( bought from a friend who was going thru a messy divorce and I basically stole it for what he sold it to me for).

I sold the Z06 a few years later, got tired of it with new yorks long winters and the C4 i puchased used for $9k with only 25k mles on it, body was perfect , but the interior needed some work. I basically learned a lot about corvettes working on this C4 and how poorly constructed and shitty materials chevrolet used to put them together. If you wonder why old corvettes rattle and make more noise than some babies toys rattles at 30k plus miles, its because a lot of the plastic mounting flanges on major assemblies are starting to crack or break away. The worst of these on my C4 was the main dash board mounting flanges which, originally were a solid ring flange had now turned to a slotted U shaped brackets.

I basically became an expert in plastic welding, refinishing and epoxy repair on that corvette.

After fixing up the C4, I swore I would never buy another used corvette, the only reason I bought my friends , is because I knew the history of it.

One day I may buy another, but one thing you need to be sure of, it that you get the best factory extended waranty available with it, don't keep it to long yrs. or miles and never buy a used one unless you know the seller personally.

CC_370z 03-06-2012 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 1584027)
Whats your ultimate goal? Tooling around town or hitting the track?

I dont know how people in here seem to think the Z will out-handle a properly equipped C6, at all...

Tooling around town on the weekend and ultimately hitting the track and some dragging.

Anyway, after taking a look at the corvette today and a test drive on '08 base. I don't think that I am missing much at all. Maybe it was an '08 and a base used vette. My OP link will have to be transfer with a fee of $550.

After doing some research and visiting some forums, I decided to wait and see how 2014 C7 will look as well as performance. As for the time being, I love my Z and will keep an eye on a used vette... not to mention saving money. However, anything is possible :eek:

280z/300zx 03-06-2012 03:03 PM

I say go for it. My girlfriend when we first started dating had a 06 C6 3LT package Vette. Yes my Z had better interior if you were to stare at it and think about it. But I tell you, the 2.5 years that I drove it I was too busy enjoying the cars performance to ever be worried about the interior. I mean it's not like it lacks amenities, it's just cheaper used materials. Then again, I'm not a huge snob about interiors either and really don't car too much as long as it's decent. I mean people bitch about the interior of the Camaro too but my girlfriends 2010 Camaro 2ss doesn't leave me desiring something more. And again, driving the car I'm enjoying the cars performance far too much to be worried about the hard plastic dash.

To each their own. If interior matters that much to you then the Vette is a bad choice; but otherwise I say get it. I really enjoyed the Vette while she had it. So much so I almost got one myself last year. Now I keep considering a grand sport but right now I'm still really enjoying my Z so I keep holding off.

I too plan to wait until the C7 to make the jump but one thing to consider is that the first 1-2 years are probably going to be cars you don't want to own. Statistically first year cars have kinks that need to be worked out. The C6 Vette is a good example of this with regards to the targa top issues and rear diff issues. So keeping that in mind you'll be waiting another 4 years or so before getting your Vette. Or you could jump on this used one and enjoy it for a bit until the C7 has proved it's self. Just a thought.

3zworld 03-06-2012 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 1583516)
Haahahahaaa... this happened round Xmas. How pathetic is this... this is the only state I been to where people make button-hook turns in a FIAT into a Wide 4 lane Road... HOW DUMB IS THAT..... LMFAO!!!!

Don't Mess With Texas.??? mfao... yeah right!!!!!!!!:inoutroflpuke:

OMFG!!!...that was hilarious ! My wife and I both cannot stop watching this video and laughing our asses off..:). It's amazing what testosterone will show us.


'09 F.I. CBE/HFC-Stillen Gen3,Setrab +ModBod

MightyBobo 03-06-2012 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1584150)
If all you care about is speed and tracking a car, get a C5 Z06 and some race rubber and call it a day. It will be cheaper (brakes, tires) than the C6, and won't break the bank to buy, either.

You want a C6 Z06? Well...think about the tires, lol. $2K a set.

Did I mention anything about a Z06? I said a Z51 Vette, dude.

Brakes/tires wouldnt make me want to go down to a C5. I'll take a C6 Z51 over a C5 Z06.

cossie1600 03-06-2012 04:07 PM

The c5 z06 is slightly faster than a c6 z51, but c5 is sort of ugly imo

Speedy 03-06-2012 04:18 PM

A lot of my buddies had Corvettes, mostly Z06 2008 and up. They're fast cars with that nice 427 motor, but I was never impressed with the quality at all. They begged me to get one and I actually found a year old Z06 at Carmax for $48K (this was back on 09).

I passed, just not my style and bought the Challenger instead. It also seems like you buy a Vette you instantly become a poor driver <shrug>.

MightyBobo 03-06-2012 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1584614)
The c5 z06 is slightly faster than a c6 z51, but c5 is sort of ugly imo

Its more along the lines of, I feel the LS3 is a better platform to start with, than the LS6 is.

And yes, I feel the C5 is uglier than the C6.

cossie1600 03-06-2012 04:39 PM

And yea ls3 would make up for the lack of tires on the c6. I was comparing ls2

CC_370z 03-06-2012 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gsxr750 (Post 1584494)
I almost bought a new 2012 C6 vette only 2 months , ago upon delivery idiot detailers scratched the entire clear coat of the car, cancelled deal and went across the street to nissan dealer and test drove the new pearl 2012 370z manual sport, I currently own.

I am very happy with the 370z prior to buying it I test drove all the high performance cars out in the $30-$55K and negleted to test drive the Z as I really wanted a V8 with 400hp plus, that is why I passed on test driving the 370z with only a V6 and 330hp.

I had test drove a challenger rt 375 hp and it was really a dog, but after driving the 370z I was sold on it, it just has to much classic styling, taste,refinement, and technical features that the american cars just don't have.

While I do sometimes regret not buying the 2012 vette, it goes away fast once I look at the 370z or drive it.

I've owned 2 corvettes in my life a 1987 C4 and a 2002 Z06 ( bought from a friend who was going thru a messy divorce and I basically stole it for what he sold it to me for).

I sold the Z06 a few years later, got tired of it with new yorks long winters and the C4 i puchased used for $9k with only 25k mles on it, body was perfect , but the interior needed some work. I basically learned a lot about corvettes working on this C4 and how poorly constructed and shitty materials chevrolet used to put them together. If you wonder why old corvettes rattle and make more noise than some babies toys rattles at 30k plus miles, its because a lot of the plastic mounting flanges on major assemblies are starting to crack or break away. The worst of these on my C4 was the main dash board mounting flanges which, originally were a solid ring flange had now turned to a slotted U shaped brackets.

I basically became an expert in plastic welding, refinishing and epoxy repair on that corvette.

After fixing up the C4, I swore I would never buy another used corvette, the only reason I bought my friends , is because I knew the history of it.

One day I may buy another, but one thing you need to be sure of, it that you get the best factory extended waranty available with it, don't keep it to long yrs. or miles and never buy a used one unless you know the seller personally.

:bowrofl:

ImportConvert 03-09-2012 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my2004Z (Post 1584435)
You will regret it. Nissan overall design, engineering and quality is simply better than Chevrolet's.

I did not watch my 370Z being built, while I did watch my Z06 built. I have seen pictures of the 370Z taken apart, etc. though. The Z06 is a much better built car in that it is WAY simpler than the 370Z and accomplishes the same tasks, regarding handling, etc. The only strike against the C6 is the transmission location necessitating a bit of outside the box mechanics.

The interior is where GM is so far inferior to Nissan. Driveline and chassis, the C6 is world-class.

Regarding 'vette's being maintenance whores, C5 and up really aren't. C4's were hell.

ImportConvert 03-09-2012 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CC_370z (Post 1584514)
Tooling around town on the weekend and ultimately hitting the track and some dragging.

Anyway, after taking a look at the corvette today and a test drive on '08 base. I don't think that I am missing much at all. Maybe it was an '08 and a base used vette. My OP link will have to be transfer with a fee of $550.

After doing some research and visiting some forums, I decided to wait and see how 2014 C7 will look as well as performance. As for the time being, I love my Z and will keep an eye on a used vette... not to mention saving money. However, anything is possible :eek:

The only thing you are giving up is acceleration and repeated braking performance, there. Handling felt almost identical to me, although at high speed the corvette's longer wheel-base makes sweeping corners easier, while the 370Z makes better work of lower speed tight corners. JME.

cossie1600 03-09-2012 01:03 PM

Unless they made some changes to the non Z06 C6, I can tell you rear stability is a problem with that car. The car seems to dance around a lot more than the 370 once you hit near triple digits.

This is a rough difference between a 370z and a 400HP C6

http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/2716/virt.jpg
Shot at 2010-10-09

ImportConvert 03-09-2012 05:56 PM

^I know the base C6 is far more composed over rough pavement than the 370Z. Don't know how they compare on a track as I never tracked the 370.

cossie1600 03-09-2012 07:03 PM

Absolutely, the C6 has a much softer suspension that doesn't beat you up. Of course that also means the car leans quite a bit more than the 370. Overall handling I give a slight edge to the 370, but I think it's mainly because of the bigger tires I have on the Z. The C6 does have a better rear diff that allows for better corner exit.

CC_370z 03-09-2012 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1590906)
Absolutely, the C6 has a much softer suspension that doesn't beat you up. Of course that also means the car leans quite a bit more than the 370. Overall handling I give a slight edge to the 370, but I think it's mainly because of the bigger tires I have on the Z. The C6 does have a better rear diff that allows for better corner exit.

I am undecided at the moment. Saw two car already.:ugh2:

Ty all so much for the input, I joined the vette forum as well... I swear they are in theirs 70s.

cossie1600 03-09-2012 08:22 PM

I am telling you. On this forum you occasionally read about people dying from mainly car accidents, on the Corvette forum it is mainly old age. The track page is where you get good info, but then those guys are really hardcore.

mantella87 03-09-2012 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1591045)
I am telling you. On this forum you occasionally read about people dying from mainly car accidents, on the Corvette forum it is mainly old age. The track page is where you get good info, but then those guys are really hardcore.

:icon18: I do see some OLD dudes driving 'vettes. I'll be the same way if I make to those years.

CC_370z 03-09-2012 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1591045)
I am telling you. On this forum you occasionally read about people dying from mainly car accidents, on the Corvette forum it is mainly old age. The track page is where you get good info, but then those guys are really hardcore.

:icon18:

:iagree:

cossie1600 03-09-2012 09:15 PM

Outside of the track guys, a lot of people buy Corvettes because they dreamed of one as a child. If you think the Z guys are protective about their cars, you should read some of the Corvette guys. I can get entertainment reading posts outside of the tech section here, on the Corvette forum it's mainly guys stroking each other/bragging how much money they make/politics (I am sure you can figure out which way they lean).

mantella87 03-09-2012 09:25 PM

I've visited the Corvette forums before, a lot of their cars get the garage queen treatment. One guy was upset that he put 30 miles on his car...

edub370 03-09-2012 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1590906)
Absolutely, the C6 has a much softer suspension that doesn't beat you up. Of course that also means the car leans quite a bit more than the 370. Overall handling I give a slight edge to the 370, but I think it's mainly because of the bigger tires I have on the Z. The C6 does have a better rear diff that allows for better corner exit.

dont forget about the corvette's ultra modern suspension...

http://www.the370z.com/members/edub3...wag09-4697.jpg

and before u ask, yeas i know how quick they are, but just... leaf springs!!!!

plus knowing the next gen corvette was due to come out in the next year would bother me... well that and the bargain bin interior u would have to stare at every day... things that make u go "buhhh-h-h"

cossie1600 03-09-2012 11:53 PM

Does it really matter? Thats like the same people who argues the z runs a maxima motor. they got what they want out of it, it works and it performs well.

MightyBobo 03-09-2012 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1591314)
Does it really matter? Thats like the same people who argues the z runs a maxima motor. they got what they want out of it, it works and it performs well.

Its also the same people that say the LSX motor is just an antiquated pushrod V8.

edub370 03-09-2012 11:59 PM

i just say this because my car isn't as fast as a Z06....

ok there i said it!!!! :facepalm:

I still maintain about the interior tho....

ImportConvert 03-10-2012 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edub370 (Post 1591306)
dont forget about the corvette's ultra modern suspension...

http://www.the370z.com/members/edub3...wag09-4697.jpg

and before u ask, yeas i know how quick they are, but just... leaf springs!!!!

plus knowing the next gen corvette was due to come out in the next year would bother me... well that and the bargain bin interior u would have to stare at every day... things that make u go "buhhh-h-h"

The composite material transverse springs in the corvette are very good. Not a problem in the world with them. My z06 was much more planted over bumps than my 370z. It's a great suspension. The base c6 is also more planted. Corvette uses a simple, effective, light setup.

Mike 03-10-2012 05:41 PM

I love them both. Had a Z06 bodied C6 and the 370. On the track, I am much more comfortable and confident in the 370, and therefore faster, even with the horsepower deficit. On the street, the corvette was definitely much more of a head turner (than before I went black and orange on the 370, now everyone stares at me when I do drive it in public)
http://a.imageshack.us/img530/5053/croppedco0.jpg

MightyBobo 03-10-2012 06:24 PM

Much like a Viper, the Z06 is a fantastic machine that takes a large amount of skill to handle well. Hence why I'd be more than happy with an LS3-powered C6...

ImportConvert 03-10-2012 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 1592281)
Much like a Viper, the Z06 is a fantastic machine that takes a large amount of skill to handle well. Hence why I'd be more than happy with an LS3-powered C6...

Not only skill, but a track. It's pointless on the street, and why I now own a 379.

6MT 03-10-2012 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edub370 (Post 1591306)
dont forget about the corvette's ultra modern suspension...

http://www.the370z.com/members/edub3...wag09-4697.jpg

and before u ask, yeas i know how quick they are, but just... leaf springs!!!!

plus knowing the next gen corvette was due to come out in the next year would bother me... well that and the bargain bin interior u would have to stare at every day... things that make u go "buhhh-h-h"

PERFECT!:bowrofl::roflpuke2::icon18:

(and that's why the corvette is a corvette)

ImportConvert 03-10-2012 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6MT (Post 1592337)
PERFECT!:bowrofl::roflpuke2::icon18:

(and that's why the corvette is a corvette)

Shame it still owns the gtr when the road bends. Pushrods, leaf springs, rwd, manual transmission. Who cares when you're winning?

6MT 03-10-2012 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1592536)
Shame it still owns the gtr when the road bends. Pushrods, leaf springs, rwd, manual transmission. Who cares when you're winning?

Totally :owned:

Now seriously... On a true race course? Now :gtfo2:

6MT 03-10-2012 10:50 PM

I can see where this thread is headed.

cossie1600 03-10-2012 11:17 PM

Just give it a rest, a Corvette will pass you

6MT 03-10-2012 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1592585)
Just give it a rest, a Corvette will pass you

:icon18::inoutroflpuke:

Ibtl

ImportConvert 03-10-2012 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6MT (Post 1592555)
Totally :owned:

Now seriously... On a true race course? Now :gtfo2:

Nurburing doesn't count?

Red__Zed 03-11-2012 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1592536)
Shame it still owns the gtr when the road bends. Pushrods, leaf springs, rwd, manual transmission. Who cares when you're winning?

Don't waste your time.


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